The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by **dirtybenny** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:42 pm

Call me a cynic but nothing is going to change anytime soon and when it does it will not be for the better. Barbara is way over her head as a producer and everyone knows it. The only reason she's given the time of day in Hollywood is the fact Bond no matter how rubbish, makes money and she owns the rights. So she will hold on with both hands in a tight death grip until the very end. Babs is only in her 50's so we have a good 20-30 years until she passes the reins to the next generation whom I'm not holding out much hope for either. As bad as Babs may be, she still has a modicum of respect and sentimentality for Bond as she grew up around the production of the classics, the up and comers have no such restraint. Like Babs they will want to put their stamp on the franchise, however they'll do it with a much broader brush painting right over what little tradition has been left behind post Babs. MGW's son was quoted as saying when writing they "look at what the world is frightened of now" which means you can count on at the very least, a lot more political drama and ripped from the headlines rubbish.

Post by **Omega** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:16 pm

I'm not so sure babs likes the bond her father made.
IMO many of her decisions about the series are a reaction to her Hollywood pals feelings about bond not being pc and relevant to them.

I admit whoever comes after her could be a nightmare.
The only way I think she steps aside is if it's a gesture, you know something like she is too busy with her important none bond projects to devote full time to bond so she delegates , that kind of face saving lie, but she never give up her rights after all she inherited them not earned them.

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Post by **dirtybenny** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:38 pm

To be clear I'm certainly not saying she likes Cubby's Bond, but what I mean to say is there will not be any overly dramatic changes (female Bond etc.). She won't step aside as she would no longer have an "in" with Hollywood, she can't get anything going outside of Bond ergo, no Bond no producing.

Post by **FormerBondFan** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:35 pm

What do you think of this?

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob1RBsKnLP0[/video]

Post by **bjmdds** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:03 pm

Lose that disgusting beard and he could STILL play Bond!

Post by **dirtybenny** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:57 pm

Considering the fact that this is an Indian product, I imagine the beard and particularly the styling of the mustache is meant to give Pierce an "Indian" aesthetic.

Post by **FormerBondFan** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:31 am

bjmdds wrote:Lose that disgusting beard and he could STILL play Bond!

Actually he looks younger with the beard.

Post by **James** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:03 am

Well, Daniel Craig had his 'Beyond Bond' interview last night. I've been reading around and the general consensus is that although he didn't say anything concrete one way or the other he's probably coming back. He spoke of Bond in the present tense, said he had the best job in the world, would miss it terribly if he stopped doing it, and that the Spectre story was 'to be continued'. It doesn't sound like someone who has quit.

Post by **James** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:19 am

http://jamesbondradio.com/beyond-bond-n ... picorelli/

Beyond Bond at The New Yorker Festival

While Daniel Craig did not make an official commitment to continue as Bond, it would appear that he has warmed up to the prospect saying in response to the question of whether or not he would return:

” I got the best job in the world doing Bond.”

As far the next Bond film is concerned, when asked where it stands, Craig replied that “It doesn’t” but he wouldn’t rule it out.

“There’s no conversation going on,” Craig says. ” Everybody’s just a bit tired . . . I’m doing Othello, Barbara’s producing that.”

In the video, Daniel makes reference to Barbara Broccoli producing Othello. He also referenced the fact that Barbara is producing a film called Film Stars Don’t Die in Liverpool.

Later on, Daniel would go on to say:

“The things I get to do on a Bond movie and the type of work it is, there’s no other job like it. There’s just no other job like it.” Adding “If I were to stop doing it, I’d miss it terribly.”

While certainly far from an official announcement, this should put to bed the ridiculous notion that Daniel Craig somehow dislikes playing Bond or that he’s only doing it for the money. Daniel later acknowledged and denied the reports of the salary figures being published in the press. He also said that the “slash my wrists” quote that had garnered much controversy had been taken out of context saying that everyone was tired at the end of production on SPECTRE including the producers.

Wilfred also noted that Craig said that “He is not rude to the press, but has rules about privacy.”

JBR listener Wilfred Picorelli got to ask Daniel a question about SPECTRE and here was Daniel’s response:

Wilfred asks if the closing scene in SPECTRE is “the end.” Daniel cheekily replies “Yes” at first but if you listen closely, Daniel says “that’s what he believes.” So it could be surmised that according to Daniel Craig, Bond believes his tenure as 007 is over at the end of SPECTRE. Then, Daniel Craig adds, “It always says to be continued at the end.” While no Bond film ends with “To Be Continued.” This could easily refer to the “James Bond Will Return” scroll that comes up in the end credits. Needless to say, it’s very possible that Craig is implying that he will likely return even if he’s not saying it officially in this interview.
Beyond Bond with Daniel Craig

Daniel talked for 90 minutes primarily discussing Bond but he also mentioned that he would be doing 2 seasons of Purity, the Showtime series based on the novel by Jonathan Franzen.

He discussed how at the very beginning before Casino Royale materialized, Barbara Brocolli called him to Pinewood and he couldn’t believe it. He read the script for Casino and when he saw how different it was he agreed to do it. He would not have been interested in the role if it had been in the same vein as the previous Bond films starring Pierce or Roger. Wilfred reports that Daniel said that he had read all the novels and watched all the films. He asked Pierce about playing Bond and Pierce told him “to have fun.” He thought about contacting Roger or Pierce for further advice but chose not to do it deciding to make Bond his own.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:22 am

FormerBondFan wrote:What do you think of this?

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob1RBsKnLP0[/video]

"Class never goes out of style".
You tell that to Barbara.
You can take the man out of James Bond franchise but you can never take James Bond franchise out of the man.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:35 am

This interview with Craig is laughable. So now he would miss the job terribly? Ha,good one. Nothing was taken out of contest with that "slash my wrist comment" because nothing could have possibly been taken out of context!
Also,he wouldn't have been interested in the role if the films were in the same vein as Roger's or Pierce's films?

Did a Craig fan write this?It's a typical way of saying "Craig is so much better than Brosnan and Moore because he is making movies that are so much more serious and so much better a.k.a he is the best Bond ever or at the very least the best since Connery".

If he would not have been interested in the role if it was similar to Roger's or Brosnan's interpretation then why does it say he thought of contacting Roger or Pierce for further advice?LOL.

Post by **Omega** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:54 am

A lot of crap coming off that interview. He is rude to the press has been from the start, nothing he said was out of context, the Brosnan have fun with it comment we know came from when he ambushed Brosnan at a party when Brosnan thought he was still talking with producers about coming back, Craig admitted once Brosnan probably felt like punching him.

The same crap about his movies are better and more serious than those before, except he still attacking movies EON and MGM want to sell to tv and blu-ray, and hurting the 007 brand but that's not new.

My question is how are they still tired 1 year after finishing the film? Craig is still taking as if he just got caught saying he'd slash his wrists .

What's interesting is he said specter is the end, but bond movies always say bond will return, then he says no conversations are going on the next movie which to me tends to boost the rumor mill about casting because we know they are moving forward and each time they have since 2006 Craig was according to him intimately involved in planning.

We did know the ridiculous figures connected with Sony were false so that's not surprising

What gives me trouble is he is going to work with babs in Othello, not sure when that happens, but she always seems to favor the guy working for her in whatever project she doing at the moment for bond. But then Craig says he committed to season two of purity which ought to take him out of contention for bond because of timing.
A lot stinks off this fanboy synopsis because it's too forgiving and unreal about stuff like "ridiculous notion" he dislikes bond and only does it for the money except that's is exactly what he has said, only a sycophant would get it wrong

Buts the fact is he has one film left in his contract and it ain't over till the new bond is hired publicly. Even if craig has a contract to wipe a ass with .

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Post by **dirtybenny** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:37 pm

Veronica wrote:If he would not have been interested in the role if it was similar to Roger's or Brosnan's interpretation then why does it say he thought of contacting Roger or Pierce for further advice?LOL.

Great catch there V, indeed if he felt himself better why would he seek their counsel, but he also contradicts himself as he stated Pierce gave him advice in the "have fun" comment, so he did at least ask him for some advice.

Well said Omega, at the risk of repeating you i'll add, I love the use of the term "ridiculous notion" pertaining to Craig coming back only for money, as if it were some vicious rumor perpetrated by "haters" and "noobs". Never mind the fact that as we all know Craig HIMSELF stated not only would he "rather slash his wrists" but continued on with "if you see me continue as Bond it would only be for the money" leaving no room for doubt! His softening on these comments must mean the check from EON has cleared or he has come to the sad realization that his career is nowhere without Bond and wants to keep MGM happy after they blew up at him over the critical comments he has made in the past. Not to mention any other studio would not want to touch him with a ten foot pole after biting the hand that feeds him so hard! Craig does not have the star power he thinks he has and after Bond, whenever that glorious day comes, he will be out in the cold as far as Hollywood is concerned.

If Craig returns and he probably will despite it being the wrong move at this point, the next film has written itself and he alluded to it in the interview. Brofeld will escape, Craig and Swann will find themselves tootling along in the DB5 wistfully discussing their plans for the future when a shot rings out, Swann slumps over in the seat next to him, Craig cries out "NOOOOOOOO" and yet another revenge based Craig film begins full of esoteric introspection and B.S. pop-psych soul searching.

Catch Bond 25 with Daniel Craig starring as a bastardization of Ian Fleming's James Bond 007, in Barbara Broccoli's dictatorship of Albert R. Broccoli's EON production's presentation of You Only Live Twice at Casino Royal while On Her Majesties Secret Service!

Barry Niven · Post by **Barry Niven** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:56 pm

dirtybenny wrote:
If Craig returns and he probably will despite it being the wrong move at this point, the next film has written itself and he alluded to it in the interview. Brofeld will escape, Craig and Swann will find themselves tootling along in the DB5 wistfully discussing their plans for the future when a shot rings out, Swann slumps over in the seat next to him, Craig cries out "NOOOOOOOO" and yet another revenge based Craig film begins full of esoteric introspection and B.S. pop-psych soul searching.

Catch Bond 25 with Daniel Craig starring as a bastardization of Ian Fleming's James Bond 007, in Barbara Broccoli's dictatorship of Albert R. Broccoli's EON production's presentation of You Only Live Twice at Casino Royal while On Her Majesties Secret Service!

Gosh, after all the hard work (NotPhil)SPECTOR put into showcasing the "End of an Era" with its multiple nods to the Old Bond Movies' tropes while rehashing *new* ones exclusive to Danactive Craggy's, it would be such a shame to undo our alleged *hero*s greatest achievement in proving himself the "better man" over Brofeld by NOT executing his wounded and defeated enemy in public despite the revelation that Brofeld's THE "author of all his pain" to provoke him.

In fact, wasn't that the whole point of that torturous Quantus of Solemn? To show how Craggy's Bond "evolved" from Angry Revenge-Seeker to Self-Controlled "Professional" who WON'T kill Vesper's Not-Dead Fake-Boyfriend after all? Talk about repetitive, which is exactly what it will be if Craggy returns for yet another Personal Mission of Revenge to Avenge His Lost Luv and His Brooding Inner Torment. What a steaming pile of horse $#!+.

Post by **Blowfeld** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:13 pm

What frustrates me beyond measure is despite Daniel once again resuming the 2006 talking points trashing Brosnan and Sir Roger, Sir Roger will bend over backwards to support and defend Daniel. The same for Brosnan, who found salvation in the form of a new pay cheque from EON in 2012. Amazing how the decade of bitterness he engendered slipped away smoothly like a martin shaken not stirred once the funds cleared.

What bothers me about Daniel's "Bond" is first it is not Ian's 007, this point is lost on many because nobody is sure who Ian's 007 after 50 years of movies and books. Everybody has a opinion which movie best demonstrate Ian's 007, however the movies have long been scrutinised as unrelated to the novels which is only true in some cases. Still this meme crated a void in the public knowledge of 007, and in my option made people more susceptible to radical departures in the name of authenticity.
What probably bothers me more is the deliberate swipes at the 40 years of movies, then the pitiful attempt to reimagine the moments fans like not by creating new authentic moment rather by cut and pasting classic scenes in to woefully inadequate movies.

All the other 'I'd miss it terribly' is garnishing to try to salvage his image after he dunked it in the rubbish bin, the Daniel managed to take hundreds of millions spent promoting him and nullify it. Everybody knows he rather kill himself than make another 007 movie, it was catnip to the entertainment media and still is repeated today. This small venue is not near enough to rehabilitate him, beside the recasting circus to too much fun for the news world.

James wrote:http://jamesbondradio.com/beyond-bond-n ... picorelli/

Beyond Bond at The New Yorker Festival

While Daniel Craig did not make an official commitment to continue as Bond, it would appear that he has warmed up to the prospect saying in response to the question of whether or not he would return:

” I got the best job in the world doing Bond.”

As far the next Bond film is concerned, when asked where it stands, Craig replied that “It doesn’t” but he wouldn’t rule it out.

“There’s no conversation going on,” Craig says. ” Everybody’s just a bit tired . . . I’m doing Othello, Barbara’s producing that.”

In the video, Daniel makes reference to Barbara Broccoli producing Othello. He also referenced the fact that Barbara is producing a film called Film Stars Don’t Die in Liverpool.

Later on, Daniel would go on to say:

“The things I get to do on a Bond movie and the type of work it is, there’s no other job like it. There’s just no other job like it.” Adding “If I were to stop doing it, I’d miss it terribly.”

While certainly far from an official announcement, this should put to bed the ridiculous notion that Daniel Craig somehow dislikes playing Bond or that he’s only doing it for the money. Daniel later acknowledged and denied the reports of the salary figures being published in the press. He also said that the “slash my wrists” quote that had garnered much controversy had been taken out of context saying that everyone was tired at the end of production on SPECTRE including the producers.

Wilfred also noted that Craig said that “He is not rude to the press, but has rules about privacy.”

JBR listener Wilfred Picorelli got to ask Daniel a question about SPECTRE and here was Daniel’s response:

Wilfred asks if the closing scene in SPECTRE is “the end.” Daniel cheekily replies “Yes” at first but if you listen closely, Daniel says “that’s what he believes.” So it could be surmised that according to Daniel Craig, Bond believes his tenure as 007 is over at the end of SPECTRE. Then, Daniel Craig adds, “It always says to be continued at the end.” While no Bond film ends with “To Be Continued.” This could easily refer to the “James Bond Will Return” scroll that comes up in the end credits. Needless to say, it’s very possible that Craig is implying that he will likely return even if he’s not saying it officially in this interview.
Beyond Bond with Daniel Craig

Daniel talked for 90 minutes primarily discussing Bond but he also mentioned that he would be doing 2 seasons of Purity, the Showtime series based on the novel by Jonathan Franzen.

He discussed how at the very beginning before Casino Royale materialized, Barbara Brocolli called him to Pinewood and he couldn’t believe it. He read the script for Casino and when he saw how different it was he agreed to do it. He would not have been interested in the role if it had been in the same vein as the previous Bond films starring Pierce or Roger. Wilfred reports that Daniel said that he had read all the novels and watched all the films. He asked Pierce about playing Bond and Pierce told him “to have fun.” He thought about contacting Roger or Pierce for further advice but chose not to do it deciding to make Bond his own.

Napoleon Solo · Post by **Napoleon Solo** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:30 am

//” Everybody’s just a bit tired.//

They're so tired they're out doing plays, other movies and limited TV series for premium channels.

What they're tired of is making James Bond movies.

Post by **Blowfeld** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:45 pm

Napoleon Solo wrote://” Everybody’s just a bit tired.//

They're so tired they're out doing plays, other movies and limited TV series for premium channels.

What they're tired of is making James Bond movies.

This may be more to the point.
Even our old pal Sweeney thinks the producers are past it.

Post by **007** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:12 pm

dirtybenny wrote:after Bond, whenever that glorious day comes

It'll be about 2030 at this rate.

Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:06 pm

The next Bond is.....Craig? His next movie is in 2020?

I'm consulting my lawyers.

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