The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

I don't think Qostbm will be as good as Koyaanisqatsi or Powaqqatsi.

The QOSTBM gag always makes me laugh!

It made me laugh at first, but I think it has gone stale through repetition.

[Skywalker]

I don't think Qostbm will be as good as Koyaanisqatsi or Powaqqatsi.

The QOSTBM gag always makes me laugh!

It made me laugh at first, but I think it has gone stale through repetition.

Too much of a good thing?

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

I don't think Qostbm will be as good as Koyaanisqatsi or Powaqqatsi.

The QOSTBM gag always makes me laugh!

It made me laugh at first, but I think it has gone stale through repetition.

We need some new jokes. Especially myself - who never had any to begin with.

[stockslivevan]

I don't think Qostbm will be as good as Koyaanisqatsi or Powaqqatsi.

The QOSTBM gag always makes me laugh!

It made me laugh at first, but I think it has gone stale through repetition.

Agreed.

[bjmdds]

I don't think Qostbm will be as good as Koyaanisqatsi or Powaqqatsi.

The QOSTBM gag always makes me laugh!

It made me laugh at first, but I think it has gone stale through repetition.

We need some new jokes. Especially myself - who never had any to begin with.

Daniel Craig starring in Quantum Of "Sole-Less", describing his interpretation of James Bond?

[stockslivevan]

Ah, the legendary BJ wit... or at least half of it.

[Captain Nash]

Daniel Craig starring in Quantum Of "Sole-Less", describing his interpretation of James Bond?

I'm going to hate myself for this, but that's actually slightly amusing bj.

Okay somebody call a doctor, now I know there's something wrong.
I don't agree with you though, but it does deserve credit given bj's thoughts on Craig.

[bjmdds]

Daniel Craig starring in Quantum Of "Sole-Less", describing his interpretation of James Bond?

I'm going to hate myself for this, but that's actually slightly amusing bj.

Okay somebody call a doctor, now I know there's something wrong.
I don't agree with you though, but it does deserve credit given bj's thoughts on Craig.

Detente achieved and appreciated Captain Nash. We are coming together as a unit very nicely. As an added bonus for the new Nash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Qq2l_L ... re=related ENJOY!

[Captain Nash]

Quite probably the greatest screen fight of all time.
And certainly one of the greatest scenes of the Bond series. Connery and Shaw are perfection in this scene. It's pure magic.
Good on ya bj...you're alright.

[bjmdds]

That's what I have been trying to tell you all this time.

[bjmdds]

If Brosnan was more like this


He would have been a more interesting Bond. Instead it lasted five minutes and meant nothing after he entered the garage. So let me get a pic of Brosnan's Bond that sums up his whole tenure instead of a misleading one:



Yeah, I'll take Craig over Brosnan.

The "Flying Surfer" was quite ridiculous and I totally agree with that assumption. Brosnan may have been critical of it to Eon, but DAD's box office success made that point moot. IF Brosnan's first Bond film was CR in 1995, could he have pulled off a novice Bond?

[stockslivevan]

From what I read, if Brosnan was kept and Casino Royale was going to be used, it would have Brosnan consider quitting MI6 and settle down with Vesper in retirement, or along the lines. But that was a brief thought of Purvis and Wade that never went beyond.

If Brosnan worked on Casino Royale exactly like Craig it wouldn't have worked IMO. That would be like asking Mickey Mouse to change like Batman. It was already bad enough in The World is Not Enough with each scene having Brosnan have a personality change. At one scene he's cold blooded and blunt like Timothy Dalton, one scene later he's jolly like Roger Moore.

And Brosnan simply can't pull off being a tough. He's fine in comedic stuff like Remmington Steele which makes sense why Americans then saw him as a good Bond contender because Moore was comedic and so Brosnan would seem likely to continue that trend. The only thing Brosnan had going for him was looks, but even I think he's too much of a pretty boy to play Bond. You can compare his youthful looks to Craig's rugged looks but that doesn't seem fair anyway. Brosnan is a youthful looking man, far more youthful looking than Connery in Dr. No too.

Bond should look rugged yet handsome. Connery, Dalton, and Craig fit the bill, for me. Even Roger Moore, if he truly wanted to, might have pulled off a tougher Bond. The scenes in Octopussy with him talking to Ourlov proved it, but that was only a brief moment in a series of jolly like attitudes.

[007]

Bond should look rugged yet handsome. Connery, Dalton, and Craig fit the bill, for me. Even Roger Moore, if he truly wanted to, might have pulled off a tougher Bond. The scenes in Octopussy with him talking to Ourlov proved it, but that was only a brief moment in a series of jolly like attitudes.

I watched Goldfinger last night and the gap between Connery and Craig is so comical it's just ridiculous. Connery wanders around looking lean, tall, suave, and devastatingly handsome, permanently amused at himself, dispensing quips, not taking anything that seriously. How Connery can be compared to DC's lip-wobbling, weird looking, kitchen-sink 'Bond' is beyond me.

[bjmdds]

Bond should look rugged yet handsome. Connery, Dalton, and Craig fit the bill, for me. Even Roger Moore, if he truly wanted to, might have pulled off a tougher Bond. The scenes in Octopussy with him talking to Ourlov proved it, but that was only a brief moment in a series of jolly like attitudes.

I watched Goldfinger last night and the gap between Connery and Craig is so comical it's just ridiculous. Connery wanders around looking lean, tall, suave, and devastatingly handsome, permanently amused at himself, dispensing quips, not taking anything that seriously. How Connery can be compared to DC's lip-wobbling, weird looking, kitchen-sink 'Bond' is beyond me.

To me, Connery is in his own class;he IS Bond. The other 5 actors are 'attempting' to successfully fill the void he left when his time as Bond was over. Craig, for me, fills that void the least. Yet, the series remains a flourishing entity with several different actors portaying the role. That is QUITE an accomplishment. There is very little room for error.

[Captain Nash]

Yet, the series remains a flourishing entity with several different actors portaying the role. That is QUITE an accomplishment. There is very little room for error.

Whether you're a fan of Craig or not, I don't think anyone can deny that Bond is an amazing success story. There really isn't another character like him. Many imitators, but only one Bond.
And all six have taken a hand at continuing the role. As you said bj, there is little room for error, and whilst many of you here are opposed to Daniel Craig, he has in my mind kept the Bond role alive. He is an accepted Bond with the masses. And whether QOS is a massive hit, or a mediocre entry (I can't see it being a flop), Daniel Craig will always be James Bond.
Along with Pierce Brosnan, Timothy Dalton, Roger Moore, George Lazenby and Sean Connery.

[The Sweeney]

Yet, the series remains a flourishing entity with several different actors portaying the role. That is QUITE an accomplishment. There is very little room for error.

Whether you're a fan of Craig or not, I don't think anyone can deny that Bond is an amazing success story. There really isn't another character like him. Many imitators, but only one Bond.
And all six have taken a hand at continuing the role. As you said bj, there is little room for error, and whilst many of you here are opposed to Daniel Craig, he has in my mind kept the Bond role alive. He is an accepted Bond with the masses. And whether QOS is a massive hit, or a mediocre entry (I can't see it being a flop), Daniel Craig will always be James Bond.
Along with Pierce Brosnan, Timothy Dalton, Roger Moore, George Lazenby and Sean Connery.

Well said, Nash.

I personally thought Craig did the biggest and boldest step with the Bond role. He really made it his own, with no regard for what went before. Reinventing the character you could say. I felt for the first time watching CR that I was finally getting a sense of a character, and not a personality in a suit walking around with a big grin, a knowing nod, wink and smile, sending the whole thing up.

This Bond didn't feel like the same Bond in DAD, AVTAK, LALD, OHMSS, TLD or even Dr. No.

This was a new Bond, a different Bond. A Bond that really bled. A Bond that showed fear before jumping off a crane, showed fear when confronted with torture, stared introvertly at himself in the mirror, bloodied while downing a mouthful of bourbon. This Bond screams out in pain at having his balls whacked. This Bond gets dirty, has his clothes torn, wears the brunt of scars on his face after getting into a scrape.

Arguably, this essence of the character was Fleming's Bond, but in a rougher, unpolished diamond kind of a way. We'd seen the suave side of the character for 40 years, but not this tougher, grittier side which was also evident in the novels, but never really portrayed on screen to this extent.

Craig's performance turned the whole thing on its head, in a way. And the result? Well, critics loved it, the majority of internet fans loved it. Unfortunatley, the majority of members on this particular site hated it.

Did the rest of the world love it? Who knows, but it certainly put bums on seats, that's for sure. Curiosity factor? Maybe. Who knows for sure.

But come November, we will know just how much the world loves the new Bond. Once the BO figures start rolling in, then we will know for sure.

[The Sweeney]

Bond should look rugged yet handsome. Connery, Dalton, and Craig fit the bill, for me. Even Roger Moore, if he truly wanted to, might have pulled off a tougher Bond. The scenes in Octopussy with him talking to Ourlov proved it, but that was only a brief moment in a series of jolly like attitudes.

I watched Goldfinger last night and the gap between Connery and Craig is so comical it's just ridiculous. Connery wanders around looking lean, tall, suave, and devastatingly handsome, permanently amused at himself, dispensing quips, not taking anything that seriously. How Connery can be compared to DC's lip-wobbling, weird looking, kitchen-sink 'Bond' is beyond me.

The similarities between the two actors portrayal as Bond is really down to three things -

1) the tougher edge they both bring. With Craig's beefed up look, he really looked like someone you wouldn't want to mess with, and with the same Connery's panther-type athletic swagger. Arguably Lazenby had this too, but because his performance is so wooden for much of the film, the tougher edge he brought to the role is often forgotten.

2) They both have (apparently) great sex appeal. Conney was never thought of as a pretty boy, but was always called sexy. The same has constantly been said of Craig (my wife confirms this belief, so do countless other females I've spoken to).

3) (Re) inventing the character. Connery invented the on-screen persona, and made the role his own. Everyone afterwards was living in his shadow, trying to mimic Connery where best they could (even Moore, with the raised eyebrow and one-liner quips). Arguably Craig has done the same thing - made the role entirely his own. A different Bond to what we have all been used to. Some would argue that the only other actor that attempted to do this was Dalton, but because of his lack of sex appeal and charisma, perhaps that's why he wasn't thought of as such a huge success.

[James]

A Bond that showed fear before jumping off a crane

Luckily he managed to survive a gravity defying jump and then shoot ten thousand soldiers.

[stockslivevan]

A Bond that showed fear before jumping off a crane

Luckily he managed to survive a gravity defying jump and then shoot ten thousand soldiers.

He never shot a soldier, unless you're thinking of GoldenEye.

Great posts Sweeney!

[John Drake]

Bond should look rugged yet handsome. Connery, Dalton, and Craig fit the bill, for me. Even Roger Moore, if he truly wanted to, might have pulled off a tougher Bond. The scenes in Octopussy with him talking to Ourlov proved it, but that was only a brief moment in a series of jolly like attitudes.

I watched Goldfinger last night and the gap between Connery and Craig is so comical it's just ridiculous. Connery wanders around looking lean, tall, suave, and devastatingly handsome, permanently amused at himself, dispensing quips, not taking anything that seriously. How Connery can be compared to DC's lip-wobbling, weird looking, kitchen-sink 'Bond' is beyond me.

I don't get the Connery comparison either 007.