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stockslivevan wrote:Or perhaps he doesn't know the meaning of those words? It's not like he was the only one. :lol: He probably understood the meaning and relevance once he was told. :P
Once he was told Stocks? :shock: He wrote the script and does not understand the meaning of the title Eon and Craig selected. If the film deals with 'oil and a moment of feeling better after losing Vesper', YAWN. :x
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stockslivevan wrote:Or perhaps he doesn't know the meaning of those words? It's not like he was the only one. :lol: He probably understood the meaning and relevance once he was told. :P
Once he was told Stocks? :shock: He wrote the script and does not understand the meaning of the title Eon and Craig selected. If the film deals with 'oil and a moment of feeling better after losing Vesper', YAWN. :x
Since when did Bond titles and scripts go hand in hand? They certainly didn't during the Brozza era, that's for sure. Bond titles usually bear little or no resemblance to their films.

Come to think of it, many of the Fleming novels had very little to do with the titles themselves also. It usually ended up being a one-liner uttered by someone. I don't even recall `Live and Let Die' being mentioned in the movie, `Diamonds Are Forver' `Tomorrow Never Dies' or `Die Another Day' (I could be wrong, of course...)
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You would think that EON would at least explain the chosen title with the person who helped pen the script, wouldn't you? How does Mrs. Sweeney like being a dentist, by the way, in the UK? Is it a private practice there or a government run system?
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bjmdds wrote:Once he was told Stocks? :shock:
Yes, is that a problem? Not a lot of people even understood what the title meant when it was announced. Say you write a script that doesn't have a title and awhile later it's announced by producers and you have no idea what the title means because you've never heard of it. See the situation here? So the press comes up to him while he hasn't been informed or even visit the set and of course he won't know. You did read the part where he said he hasn't spoken to the team a lot since the strike except that production was going well, right?

Oh why am I bothering, you're just looking anything "negative" no matter how redundant.
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bjmdds wrote:You would think that EON would at least explain the chosen title with the person who helped pen the script, wouldn't you? How does Mrs. Sweeney like being a dentist, by the way, in the UK? Is it a private practice there or a government run system?
Private. She used to be part of the government run NHS, but absolutely hated it. She graduated in Norway, where the standards are high, and couldn't believe what she had to deal with when working for the NHS. She said the materials were awful, and she used to feel guilty when dealing with the patients.

Ask anyone in the UK what they think of the NHS, and you probably won't get a nice answer.... :wink:
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Norway grad? Where did you meet then? Aside from James 'Bond', you and I have another common 'bond', believe it or not. Does the UK dental field encourage private practice? In the USA, this debate over 'universal' health care is getting ridiculous between the presidential candidates.
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The Sweeney wrote:Ask anyone in the UK what they think of the NHS, and you probably won't get a nice answer.... :wink:
Yeah, but ask them if they'd want to swap it for a US-style, for-profit system and you'd get an even less nice answer.
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bjmdds wrote:Norway grad? Where did you meet then? Aside from James 'Bond', you and I have another common 'bond', believe it or not. Does the UK dental field encourage private practice? In the USA, this debate over 'universal' health care is getting ridiculous between the presidential candidates.
I chatted her up in the duty free lounge of an airport in Hamburg, James Bond style..... :lol:

She never gave me her number, but told me she was a dentist working in Farnborough. I then tracked her down a few days later. She's actually Iranian, but her family all fled to Norway years ago, hence why she graduated there.

The government is unofficially destroying the NHS dentistry, allowing it to collapse, which in effect is encouraging everyone to go private. I found this all out when my misses was working under the NHS, and the rules the governemnt were posing on them forced all dentists to actively go private.
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The Sweeney wrote:Ask anyone in the UK what they think of the NHS, and you probably won't get a nice answer.... :wink:
Yeah, but ask them if they'd want to swap it for a US-style, for-profit system and you'd get an even less nice answer.
True, but I doubt their hospitals are as filthy as ours right now, or that they are at risk catching third world diseases like we are prone to do, visiting NHS hospitals here.

Luckily my job pays for me to be private. I wouldn't feel confident going to an NHS hospital anymore. Sad as it is.... :(
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The Sweeney wrote:True, but I doubt their hospitals are as filthy as ours right now, or that they are at risk catching third world diseases like we are prone to do, visiting NHS hospitals here.
Nah, US hospitals are great...until you get the bill! Sadly, the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries are too powerful here to set up an NHS type system. Two-thirds of Americans want universal healthcare, but American politicians obey their campaign donors, not the people who elect them.
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The Sweeney wrote:True, but I doubt their hospitals are as filthy as ours right now, or that they are at risk catching third world diseases like we are prone to do, visiting NHS hospitals here.

Luckily my job pays for me to be private. I wouldn't feel confident going to an NHS hospital anymore. Sad as it is.... :(
:roll: I believe the UK's healthcare is higher ranked than the US (according to the World Health Organisation). It's also worth taking note that a work colleague of mine contracted MRSA whilst undergoing an operation on his back in a private hospital paid for through private medial care.

The NHS is something to be proud of in this country. Free medical care to all, not a select few. Of course it's your choice on what medical care you get, but for me I'm more than happy to be treated by the NHS even though I'm lucky enough to have a job that enables me to go private.
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The Sweeney wrote:True, but I doubt their hospitals are as filthy as ours right now, or that they are at risk catching third world diseases like we are prone to do, visiting NHS hospitals here.

Luckily my job pays for me to be private. I wouldn't feel confident going to an NHS hospital anymore. Sad as it is.... :(
:roll: I believe the UK's healthcare is higher ranked than the US (according to the World Health Organisation). It's also worth taking note that a work colleague of mine contracted MRSA whilst undergoing an operation on his back in a private hospital paid for through private medial care.

The NHS is something to be proud of in this country. Free medical care to all, not a select few. Of course it's your choice on what medical care you get, but for me I'm more than happy to be treated by the NHS even though I'm lucky enough to have a job that enables me to go private.
The NHS something to be proud of? Third world disease ridden is something to be proud of, is it, NHS or private? :lol:

I wonder how many cases of MRSA are found in the US?

You want to speak to people who work for the NHS. Their opinion may differ somewhat from yours.... :wink:
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The Sweeney wrote:[I wonder how many cases of MRSA are found in the US?
Wikipedia is your friend.
In the past decade or so the number of MRSA infections in the United States has increased significantly. A 2007 report in Emerging Infectious Diseases, a publication of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), estimated that the number of MRSA infections treated in hospitals doubled nationwide, from approximately 127,000 in 1999 to 278,000 in 2005, while at the same time deaths increased from 11,000 to more than 17,000. Another study led by the CDC and published in the October 17, 2007 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association estimated that MRSA would have been responsible for 94,360 serious infections and associated with 18,650 hospital stay-related deaths in the United States in 2005. These figures suggest that MRSA infections are responsible for more deaths in the U.S. each year than AIDS.
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Skywalker wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:True, but I doubt their hospitals are as filthy as ours right now, or that they are at risk catching third world diseases like we are prone to do, visiting NHS hospitals here.

Luckily my job pays for me to be private. I wouldn't feel confident going to an NHS hospital anymore. Sad as it is.... :(
:roll: I believe the UK's healthcare is higher ranked than the US (according to the World Health Organisation). It's also worth taking note that a work colleague of mine contracted MRSA whilst undergoing an operation on his back in a private hospital paid for through private medial care.

The NHS is something to be proud of in this country. Free medical care to all, not a select few. Of course it's your choice on what medical care you get, but for me I'm more than happy to be treated by the NHS even though I'm lucky enough to have a job that enables me to go private.
The NHS something to be proud of? Third world disease ridden is something to be proud of, is it, NHS or private? :lol:

I wonder how many cases of MRSA are found in the US?

You want to speak to people who work for the NHS. Their opinion may differ somewhat from yours.... :wink:
Quite a difference of opinion by you two and you both live in the UK. Does it take months for someone to get a bypass operation, or a mri scan, etc., in the NHS?
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Well I was born and bred in the UK. I am a proud Englishman, but the health system is rather poor.
Before I moved to Australia I was due to have a minor operation that becuase of the length of time I was waiting I had to cancel.
Yet on my arrival in Australia was able to have after a considerably shorter time frame.
The NHS isn't the worst health system. It sure aint the best either.
Now on a different note, anyone got any James Bond related stuff going on?
Does the talk of QOS having twice the action please the fans of the first 20 films?
Going back to the so called 'traditional' style of the EON films.
If Bond were to act more like the Bond that they recognise, would Daniel Craig make not a perfect Bond, but a passable fill in untill a new pretty boy / Brosnan type was cast?
And I guess finally, is there a chance that any of the anti-Craigs will like Bond again?
What needs to change in your eyes?
Is it just Craig?
Or more?
Well that's about it for now. That should keep you busy for a minute or two. :wink:
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bjmdds wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Skywalker wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:True, but I doubt their hospitals are as filthy as ours right now, or that they are at risk catching third world diseases like we are prone to do, visiting NHS hospitals here.

Luckily my job pays for me to be private. I wouldn't feel confident going to an NHS hospital anymore. Sad as it is.... :(
:roll: I believe the UK's healthcare is higher ranked than the US (according to the World Health Organisation). It's also worth taking note that a work colleague of mine contracted MRSA whilst undergoing an operation on his back in a private hospital paid for through private medial care.

The NHS is something to be proud of in this country. Free medical care to all, not a select few. Of course it's your choice on what medical care you get, but for me I'm more than happy to be treated by the NHS even though I'm lucky enough to have a job that enables me to go private.
The NHS something to be proud of? Third world disease ridden is something to be proud of, is it, NHS or private? :lol:

I wonder how many cases of MRSA are found in the US?

You want to speak to people who work for the NHS. Their opinion may differ somewhat from yours.... :wink:
Quite a difference of opinion by you two and you both live in the UK. Does it take months for someone to get a bypass operation, or a mri scan, etc., in the NHS?
Worse than that if you read some of these shocking articles. Of course, Skywalker may have a different opinion on it... :wink:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1774

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/298 ... earing-aid

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 337107.ece

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... _n12893250

http://archive.thisistrafford.co.uk/200 ... 10036.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/799008.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... osi118.xml

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 890473.ece

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 113445.ece
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Kristatos wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:[I wonder how many cases of MRSA are found in the US?
Wikipedia is your friend.
In the past decade or so the number of MRSA infections in the United States has increased significantly. A 2007 report in Emerging Infectious Diseases, a publication of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), estimated that the number of MRSA infections treated in hospitals doubled nationwide, from approximately 127,000 in 1999 to 278,000 in 2005, while at the same time deaths increased from 11,000 to more than 17,000. Another study led by the CDC and published in the October 17, 2007 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association estimated that MRSA would have been responsible for 94,360 serious infections and associated with 18,650 hospital stay-related deaths in the United States in 2005. These figures suggest that MRSA infections are responsible for more deaths in the U.S. each year than AIDS.
Well, maybe the health system in the US is as bad as ours over here then.... :shock:
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The Sweeney wrote: The NHS something to be proud of? Third world disease ridden is something to be proud of, is it, NHS or private? :lol:
Well done you stuck up pr*ck. It's the same NHS that saved my Mum's life and countless others who don't have the luxury to go private. :roll:
The Sweeney wrote: You want to speak to people who work for the NHS. Their opinion may differ somewhat from yours.... :wink:
I did. Mrs Skywalker was a cervical screener for the NHS.
Well done. Would you like me to trall through articles too. I used my reference source from the world health organisation, which states that the UK is higher than both the US and Australia.

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Skywalker wrote: Well done you stuck up pr*ck. It's the same NHS that saved my Mum's life and countless others who don't have the luxury to go private. :roll:
Calling me a stuck up prick are you, you silly little twat!!!
I'm not condemning the NHS, but the goverment who run it, you moron!!!
My brother doesn't have the money to go NHS either, and couldn't have an operation in time. Luckily someone paid for him to go private, which in effect saved his life!!!!

I had an operation under the NHS about 18 years ago, which went very well. However, the NHS is very different now to how it was then.
Skywalker wrote: I did. Mrs Skywalker was a cervical screener for the NHS.
My wife worked for the NHS and told me some shocking stories. My sister-in-law works for the NHS too as a nurse, and again has told me some awful stories. Looks like your wife worked in a great department then.
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Well done. Would you like me to trall through articles too.
Yes please. Prove me wrong.
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I used my reference source from the world health organisation, which states that the UK is higher than both the US and Australia.
Really? So you think the NHS is all hunky dorey then?

You are living in cloud cuckoo land. Stupid prick! :roll:
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Skywalker wrote: Well done you stuck up pr*ck. It's the same NHS that saved my Mum's life and countless others who don't have the luxury to go private. :roll:
Calling me a stuck up prick are you, you silly little twat!!!
I'm not condemning the NHS, but the goverment who run it, you moron!!!
My brother doesn't have the money to go NHS either, and couldn't have an operation in time. Luckily someone paid for him to go private, which in effect saved his life!!!!

I had an operation under the NHS about 18 years ago, which went very well. However, the NHS is very different now to how it was then.
Skywalker wrote: I did. Mrs Skywalker was a cervical screener for the NHS.
My wife worked for the NHS and told me some shocking stories. My sister-in-law works for the NHS too as a nurse, and again has told me some awful stories. Looks like your wife worked in a great department then.
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Well done. Would you like me to trall through articles too.
Yes please. Prove me wrong.
Skywalker wrote:
I used my reference source from the world health organisation, which states that the UK is higher than both the US and Australia.
Really? So you think the NHS is all hunky dorey then?

You are living in cloud cuckoo land. Stupid prick! :roll:
Problem is moron, you wouldn't dare say it to my face. If you can grow a pair, I live just off Junction 29. PM me for directions.
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