Which Bond actor was closest to Fleming?

General Bond discussion from Sean Connery to Pierce Brosnan
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Post by Commander 0077 »

I wonder if there's an interview with the writers about this. :idea:

In good writing, the writer assumes that his audience has some imagination and intelligence, that they're able to piece things together without spelling it out A to Z. A simple example would be we see a shot of a man from the back. He's driving a high concept motorcycle. The James Bond theme is playing. That's all we have to know. We assume it's Bond, even with helmet on.

So in the 'heart stop' scene, I just used audience licence :lol:

Now if the writers actually have admitted Bond stopped his heart, then my hats off to you :)
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Commander 0077 wrote:I wonder if there's an interview with the writers about this. :idea:

In good writing, the writer assumes that his audience has some imagination and intelligence, that they're able to piece things together without spelling it out A to Z. A simple example would be we see a shot of a man from the back. He's driving a high concept motorcycle. The James Bond theme is playing. That's all we have to know. We assume it's Bond, even with helmet on.

So in the 'heart stop' scene, I just used audience licence :lol:

Now if the writers actually have admitted Bond stopped his heart, then my hats off to you :)
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My favorite Bond actor is a 3-way tie between Connery, Moore and Brosnan, all 3 have their strengths that made them a truly great Bond.

If you ask Christopher Lee (who was one of the stars in a Bond film, and who was Ian Fleming's cousin) who he thinks was the closest to being Fleming's Bond he will tell you it was Pierce Brosnan.

And in fairness to Timothy Dalton he made great effort to learn as much about the James Bond of Fleming's novels as he could, and he was a great serious Bond. But at least Dalton's Bond had personality, unlike Daniel Craig's so-called Bond.
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Eye Of The Tiger wrote:My favorite Bond actor is a 3-way tie between Connery, Moore and Brosnan, all 3 have their strengths that made them a truly great Bond.

If you ask Christopher Lee (who was one of the stars in a Bond film, and who was Ian Fleming's cousin) who he thinks was the closest to being Fleming's Bond he will tell you it was Pierce Brosnan.

And in fairness to Timothy Dalton he made great effort to learn as much about the James Bond of Fleming's novels as he could, and he was a great serious Bond. But at least Dalton's Bond had personality, unlike Daniel Craig's so-called Bond.
I like all three of these actors as James Bond but Sean Connery will always be my favorite.

Did Christopher Lee actually say this or is it your opinion?

I like Dalton's serious Bond to Craig's serious Bond.
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Hi Everyone

Dalton's portrayal of Bond was ahead of its time. The darker elements he introduced became standard in 90's/ 2000's action films. The audience wasn't ready for that type of nuanced performance. His Bond was human and brave, not an 'off the peg' stereotypical thug as portrayed in Casino Royale. I don't blame DC but the reboot Bond is not Bond. All the underpinning elements of the character - reserve, education, charm, calculated ruthlessness and gallows humour have all been abandoned to produce an identikit action hero who isn't Bond and is so bland and unlikeable that you can't suspend your belief to let him run through walls, recover from heart attacks etc.

This is a focus group, market led, common denominator character who resembles a game creation - bland and stereotypical so you can overlay your own participation - rather than a movie portrayal.


If you like CR good luck to you but as a Bond reader and viewer of the 'old school' I might as well watch any action film.
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Mr Boldman wrote:Hi Everyone

Dalton's portrayal of Bond was ahead of its time. The darker elements he introduced became standard in 90's/ 2000's action films. The audience wasn't ready for that type of nuanced performance. His Bond was human and brave, not an 'off the peg' stereotypical thug as portrayed in Casino Royale. I don't blame DC but the reboot Bond is not Bond. All the underpinning elements of the character - reserve, education, charm, calculated ruthlessness and gallows humour have all been abandoned to produce an identikit action hero who isn't Bond and is so bland and unlikeable that you can't suspend your belief to let him run through walls, recover from heart attacks etc.

This is a focus group, market led, common denominator character who resembles a game creation - bland and stereotypical so you can overlay your own participation - rather than a movie portrayal.


If you like CR good luck to you but as a Bond reader and viewer of the 'old school' I might as well watch any action film.
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Welcome to the forum Mr Boldman. Nice to have another new poster onboard.
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The Sweeney wrote:
Mr Boldman wrote:Hi Everyone

Dalton's portrayal of Bond was ahead of its time. The darker elements he introduced became standard in 90's/ 2000's action films. The audience wasn't ready for that type of nuanced performance. His Bond was human and brave, not an 'off the peg' stereotypical thug as portrayed in Casino Royale. I don't blame DC but the reboot Bond is not Bond. All the underpinning elements of the character - reserve, education, charm, calculated ruthlessness and gallows humour have all been abandoned to produce an identikit action hero who isn't Bond and is so bland and unlikeable that you can't suspend your belief to let him run through walls, recover from heart attacks etc.

This is a focus group, market led, common denominator character who resembles a game creation - bland and stereotypical so you can overlay your own participation - rather than a movie portrayal.


If you like CR good luck to you but as a Bond reader and viewer of the 'old school' I might as well watch any action film.
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Dr. No wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Mr Boldman wrote:Hi Everyone

Dalton's portrayal of Bond was ahead of its time. The darker elements he introduced became standard in 90's/ 2000's action films. The audience wasn't ready for that type of nuanced performance. His Bond was human and brave, not an 'off the peg' stereotypical thug as portrayed in Casino Royale. I don't blame DC but the reboot Bond is not Bond. All the underpinning elements of the character - reserve, education, charm, calculated ruthlessness and gallows humour have all been abandoned to produce an identikit action hero who isn't Bond and is so bland and unlikeable that you can't suspend your belief to let him run through walls, recover from heart attacks etc.

This is a focus group, market led, common denominator character who resembles a game creation - bland and stereotypical so you can overlay your own participation - rather than a movie portrayal.


If you like CR good luck to you but as a Bond reader and viewer of the 'old school' I might as well watch any action film.
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