Remaking old bond movies

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Do you think they should remake old bond movies.I personally don't because I already don't like our new bond but remaking the old ones would really kill it for me.What I don't like about a reboot is everything from Connery- Brosnan is now forgotten.
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I think that this unconscious people at EON will continue this orrible idea of "let make him serious" reebot.... In a couple of movie we will see a new Goldfinger with Heat Ledger or Eric Bana in the title role.... AAAARGH!!!!
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James1090 wrote:What I don't like about a reboot is everything from Connery- Brosnan is now forgotten.
Welcome to the forums James1090, but you must have a poor memory. I remember the Bond films easily.
The reboot is a risky area, did Eon need to do it? No.
Did this confuse alot of people? Yes.
Can they change it? No.
And I for one think why should they.
Bond belongs to them, to the film studio that puts up the money. We're just fans along for the ride. And sometimes we don't like what we see.
But then there are fans (and plenty of them) who did like what they saw.
It's an unwinable debate, but I hope that many of the members here get more out of Bond 22 than they did out of CR.
The trouble is that many seem to have already made up their minds before the film has started shooting.
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Captain Nash wrote:The reboot is a risky area, did Eon need to do it? No.
Did this confuse alot of people? Yes.
Can they change it? No.
They could change it with the next Bond, by retconning it so that Bond 24 takes place after the events of DAD, leaving the Craig trilogy* as existing in its own self-contained timeline. That would cause headaches down the line, but not as much as having two separate Bond series running from now until Doomsday.

*=based on the assumption that Craig does three films. If he does more, then adjust the numbers accordingly.
Captain Nash wrote:And I for one think why should they.
Bond belongs to them, to the film studio that puts up the money. We're just fans along for the ride.
That seems to be the assuption among pro-Craigers, that those of us who pay Barbara Broccoli's wages have no right to an opinion on what EON do with the money we give them. I wonder if they'd be so sanguine if EON decided to go the Roger Moore route and put more slapstick comedy into future Bond films.
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Kristatos wrote:
Captain Nash wrote:The reboot is a risky area, did Eon need to do it? No.
Did this confuse alot of people? Yes.
Can they change it? No.
They could change it with the next Bond, by retconning it so that Bond 24 takes place after the events of DAD, leaving the Craig trilogy* as existing in its own self-contained timeline. That would cause headaches down the line, but not as much as having two separate Bond series running from now until Doomsday.

*=based on the assumption that Craig does three films. If he does more, then adjust the numbers accordingly.
I also think that if they do end Craig with three films going back to Bond being experienced is a good idea.
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I also think that if they do end Craig with three films going back to Bond being experienced is a good idea.

Given his age and looks Craig should really be playing an experienced Bond. He must be over a decade older than Lazenby was in OHMSS.
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I think the remake theroy is not that far fetched i fear. :cry:
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I also think that if they do end Craig with three films going back to Bond being experienced is a good idea.

Given his age and looks Craig should really be playing an experienced Bond. He must be over a decade older than Lazenby was in OHMSS.
Age should not be the issue, for me it's about how old you look. Moore looked great in LALD.
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james stock wrote:I think the remake theroy is not that far fetched i fear. :cry:
Yeah it really would be bad. I love the classics that Connery made, it would be a bad idea to remake his movies or any of them.

Does anyone think that once Craig is gone they will continue onto Craig's bond or where Brosnan left off?
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James wrote:
I also think that if they do end Craig with three films going back to Bond being experienced is a good idea.

Given his age and looks Craig should really be playing an experienced Bond. He must be over a decade older than Lazenby was in OHMSS.
i think that Daniel Craig should have taken over where Brosnan ended without a reboot, there is no reason why they can't make him more serious without a reboot. Dalton did it after Moore.
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i think that Daniel Craig should have taken over where Brosnan ended without a reboot, there is no reason why they can't make him more serious without a reboot. Dalton did it after Moore.
I agree with that. Obviously I would have preferred alternative actors, but the reboot concept was not needed. I'm not against the idea of a reboot, but I feel EON handled it badly IMO. For a Bond begins perspective, I would gone further back with a younger looking actor as Bond.
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Skywalker wrote:For a Bond begins perspective, I would gone further back with a younger looking actor as Bond.
They almost did. Sam Worthington was only a year older than the 28-year-old Bond that the script called for, and he says that he had already been offered and accepted the role before EON phoned him to tell him that he'd been ditched in favour of Lady Broccoli's Lover.
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Sam Worthington's babyface would have pulled me off. Bond is supposed to be a navy commander by the time he is recruited and I can't see that kid in a commander uniform. If we were gonna get someone younger than Craig, then at least 34 no less. With Craig I got the sense that he was experienced, reckless as a OO-agent, but nevertheless got the job done.

The closest we can get Bond's age from the Fleming books of course was in Moonraker when he says "you're thrown out by 45; I suppose 8 years left for me" making him 37. How long he was in the service is subjective, but I can't see how someone at a ripe age in his 20s just becomes commander.
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stockslivevan wrote:The closest we can get Bond's age from the Fleming books of course was in Moonraker when he says "you're thrown out by 45; I suppose 8 years left for me" making him 37. How long he was in the service is subjective, but I can't see how someone at a ripe age in his 20s just becomes commander.
But he was already an experienced agent by Moonraker (novel and film). The script of CR called for a 28-year-old Bond. Worthington was 29 at the time of the film's release, Craig 39. I've never seen Worthington act, or even a photo of him in a tuxedo (every pic I've seen of him has him looking rather grungy), so I've no idea what sort of Bond he'd have made, but the valet parking scene in particular would have made a lot more sense with a younger actor. Craig was simply too old to be believable as a wet behind the ears rookie.
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I saw Worthington in that film Somersault on FilmFour and I could see why the Bond people were interested. He's an excellent actor with a bit of edge and looks great onscreen. He didn't appear babyfaced or too young.
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OK, I made a mistake, I had seen that top photo before, I had just forgotten about it. His hair looks a bit weird, like a plastic Playmobil figure. It looks like there's a little hole in the top of his head that it slots into. I actually think he looks more like Bond in the bottom pic, despite his casual attire.
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John Drake wrote:Image

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I saw Worthington in that film Somersault on FilmFour and I could see why the Bond people were interested. He's an excellent actor with a bit of edge and looks great onscreen. He didn't appear babyfaced or too young.
Still too babyfaced for me to play Bond. Connery was 32 yet he looked like a man in his late 30s. I favor an actor with more rugged features like Clive Owen. Even Christian Bale looks like he's in his late 30s, yet he's 33. Makes Cavill and Worthington look like college students.

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Skywalker wrote:For a Bond begins perspective, I would gone further back with a younger looking actor as Bond.
They almost did. Sam Worthington was only a year older than the 28-year-old Bond that the script called for, and he says that he had already been offered and accepted the role before EON phoned him to tell him that he'd been ditched in favour of Lady Broccoli's Lover.
I wasn't aware of that. Did they re-write the script for an older Bond or is old 'Craggy' face supposed to be playing a guy of 28 years?
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Worthington would be perfect for a "baby-faced" Bond early on in his career because Bond was 25-30 when he became an agent in Fleming.

Craig playing a young Bond is unconvincing.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Worthington would be perfect for a "baby-faced" Bond early on in his career because Bond was 25-30 when he became an agent in Fleming.

Craig playing a young Bond is unconvincing.
That would be like rebooting the series with Roger Moore at his age in AVTAK even though I still think he looks better than Craig at that age.
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