The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

Duran Duran still hold the crown. AVTAK managed #2 in the British chart AND #1 in the US, whereas Adele only got to #8 on the Billboard Hot 100.

[bjmdds]

You tell him Kris. He is under the Imperious curse of Eon. I wonder what the counter spell is? Maybe FBF has that answer.

[Mazer Rackham]

The descent begins: Forecast (Nov. 16-18)
1. Breaking Dawn Part 2 - $158 million (including 10 p.m. Thursday)
2. Skyfall - $47.5 million (-46%)
3. Wreck-It Ralph - $18.7 million (-43%)
4. Lincoln - $11.5 million
5. Flight - $8.9 million (-40%)

If it plays out that way, it'd be an improvement over Quantum, which had a 60 percent falloff in weekend 2.

It had an incredible first week. Only Wednesday did it start to come close to QOS levels, a 50% slide would be acceptable at this point, if it does better it will prove the franchises strength a little more, I doubt it will fall more than QOS, all though when movies have big openings the next weekend tends to looks worse than it is.
Skyfall has preformed remarkably in the US market, this is where the legs of this movie prove themselves I don't expect Skyfall to stumble as QOS did. I do believe one of the reasons for the success is they successfully sold the idea of Skyfall as a return to Bond/Bond escapism. Getting Adele paid off although I doubt the impact in anywhere in the neighborhood of Fandango's fanboy sample group. A half arsed song a baboon could have written set to a proper Bond symphony helped to set the tone of Bond returning, even though he didn't the idea is more powerful then the reality.

Lesson EON should take out of this is the promise of traditional Bond elements sell. Lessons they will take from it are Bond can be absent (for 3 bloody films!), four year gaps do not matter, old actors past their prime do not matter, angst sells, poorly written scripts with poltholes are OK, overall poor casting is acceptable, the audience wants more homoerotic scenes, and most of all ripping of modern TV and cinema is they way to go.

Sad part is they could have hired the talent they are imitating years ago and those people would have kept Bond at the top of his game, not playing blind mans bluff hopping to catch on to the next new wave before it passes them by.

I am simply amazed this film cost as much as it does, and that they had such a hard time keeping to the budget. No real excuse for it except they do not bother to plan ahead, when production rushes in at a breakneck pace with no time for preparation it cost more to get it done.

[Mazer Rackham]

How does Adele's song compare to any other song in the Bond franchise, BJ? The most successful song in the franchise perhaps?

I wouldn't go there. Probably be Live and Let Die and Die Another Day, those songs went on long after their movies were off the scene.

[The Sweeney]

How does Adele's song compare to any other song in the Bond franchise, BJ? The most successful song in the franchise perhaps?

I wouldn't go there. Probably be Live and Let Die and Die Another Day, those songs went on long after their movies were off the scene.

Sounds like AVTAK is still the no.1 spot after what Kris said. I never realised it hit so high in the US.

I bet Adele's song is near the top though in terms of actual records sold. Can anyone dig up the figures?

[The Sweeney]

You tell him Kris. He is under the Imperious curse of Eon. I wonder what the counter spell is? Maybe FBF has that answer.

I'm suffering from Craigitis. Careful guys, its contagious.....

[Mazer Rackham]

You tell him Kris. He is under the Imperious curse of Eon. I wonder what the counter spell is? Maybe FBF has that answer.

I'm suffering from Craigitis. Careful guys, its contagious.....

So are warts on a toad.

[Mazer Rackham]

Sounds like AVTAK is still the no.1 spot after what Kris said. I never realised it hit so high in the US.

I bet Adele's song is near the top though in terms of actual records sold. Can anyone dig up the figures?

There was something on this a week ago.

661,000 units to date and it currently sits at no. 25 on the Digital Song Sales chart.

56 on Billboard's Hot 100 chart

iTune sales 14,307 sold in the us in the (last 24 hours?), 3,066 in the UK.

The biggest departure is it is only available as a single. First for Bond but also designed to make Adele more dosh.

[Napoleon Solo]

I am simply amazed this film cost as much as it does, and that they had such a hard time keeping to the budget. No real excuse for it except they do not bother to plan ahead, when production rushes in at a breakneck pace with no time for preparation it cost more to get it done.

Maybe expenses such as:

-- DC talking to Judi Dench at her home. His salary has been reported as high as $17 million.

-- Ralph Fiennes talking to Dench at his office.

-- DC talking to Javier Bardem on his island.

-- Fiennes and Dench watching DC talk to the psychologist.

-- Dench talks to Bardem at MI6 as DC watches.

-- DC and Dench in the DB5, in Scotland, etc.


Higher priced actors means less to spend on other things.

[FormerBondFan]

You tell him Kris. He is under the Imperious curse of Eon. I wonder what the counter spell is? Maybe FBF has that answer.

Pierce's surprised hit (that bigger and better than Bond) that will give him his third career, I guess.

[The Sweeney]

You tell him Kris. He is under the Imperious curse of Eon. I wonder what the counter spell is? Maybe FBF has that answer.

Pierce's surprised hit (that bigger and better than Bond) that will give him his third career, I guess.

I'd be happy to see Brozza's career escalate further. I have liked many of his movies outside of Bond, much more than Craig's films.

So as much as disliked Brozza as Bond, I would not want to wish any misfortune on him outside of 007.....how many on here can say that about Craig?

[bjmdds]

I am simply amazed this film cost as much as it does, and that they had such a hard time keeping to the budget. No real excuse for it except they do not bother to plan ahead, when production rushes in at a breakneck pace with no time for preparation it cost more to get it done.

Maybe expenses such as:

-- DC talking to Judi Dench at her home. His salary has been reported as high as $17 million.

-- Ralph Fiennes talking to Dench at his office.

-- DC talking to Javier Bardem on his island.

-- Fiennes and Dench watching DC talk to the psychologist.

-- Dench talks to Bardem at MI6 as DC watches.

-- DC and Dench in the DB5, in Scotland, etc.


Higher priced actors means less to spend on other things.

What were the actual salaries paid to BOREDOM and Voldemort by the way?

[bjmdds]

You tell him Kris. He is under the Imperious curse of Eon. I wonder what the counter spell is? Maybe FBF has that answer.

I'm suffering from Craigitis. Careful guys, its contagious.....

When Elba http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... s_Elba.jpg replaces Cr-egg you will become one of us. THAT will break the Imperious curse that has befallen on you and your fellow Cr-egg loving brethren.

[FormerBondFan]

You tell him Kris. He is under the Imperious curse of Eon. I wonder what the counter spell is? Maybe FBF has that answer.

Pierce's surprised hit (that bigger and better than Bond) that will give him his third career, I guess.

I'd be happy to see Brozza's career escalate further. I have liked many of his movies outside of Bond, much more than Craig's films.

So as much as disliked Brozza as Bond, I would not want to wish any misfortune on him outside of 007.....how many on here can say that about Craig?

I would very much want to see Craig in Star Trek either TV or film or both. I like to see him as a sci-fi folk (minus the C&A), and I'm talking about space adventures.

[bjmdds]

You tell him Kris. He is under the Imperious curse of Eon. I wonder what the counter spell is? Maybe FBF has that answer.

Pierce's surprised hit (that bigger and better than Bond) that will give him his third career, I guess.

I'd be happy to see Brozza's career escalate further. I have liked many of his movies outside of Bond, much more than Craig's films.

So as much as disliked Brozza as Bond, I would not want to wish any misfortune on him outside of 007.....how many on here can say that about Craig?

It's not anyone's fault that his lack of talent as an actor has led to 100% failures at the box office outside of Bond. It's his, and he earned that disdain by being deemed a leading man, when in fact, he is nothing but a bit part actor, who was fancied by a green vegetable at Eon, when specimens like Jackman and Purefoy were available 6 years ago, which led to his unearned acceptance as a $20 million actor.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

I'd be happy to see Brozza's career escalate further. I have liked many of his movies outside of Bond, much more than Craig's films.

So as much as disliked Brozza as Bond, I would not want to wish any misfortune on him outside of 007.....how many on here can say that about Craig?

I want Craig to be a success outside of Bond so he will leave Bond to do something else. I only mention that his non-Bond performances are not very good as Barbara Broccoli and the CraigasBond fanatics tell me he is a big movie star and one of the greatest actors of all time.

Also how come Brosnan was attacked by the Craig fanatics for wanting too much money for a 5th Bond movie but Daniel Craig seems to be being paid $20 million for his Bonds?

[The Sweeney]

Also how come Brosnan was attacked by the Craig fanatics for wanting too much money for a 5th Bond movie but Daniel Craig seems to be being paid $20 million for his Bonds?

I've no idea, I'm not a Craig fanatic....I am a Bond fanatic though.

[Goldeneye]

Alternative 007 has a review up of Skyfall
http://www.alternative007.co.uk/204.htm

In the last film he still was the rookie Bond who had just earned his 007 status but now there are jokes about him being old and clapped-out. Uh? It's a mess really and it's like even EON are now admitting it was ridiculous to pretend the weathered Daniel Craig was a young whippersnapper Bond in Casino Royale. Some new characters here now. Ralph Fiennes as Gareth Mallory, the Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee. He's effectively M's boss as he regulates MI6 and tells her she's to be retired. The arc of Mallory in the film is none too surprising but Fiennes is pretty solid. Fiennes and Ben Whishaw as the new Q are too good to be in a Bond film in a way. They aren't going to get much to do or be stretched so it's like they are just taking a quick pay cheque until the next West End play. Like Muhammad Ali defending his title against Richard Dunn before he fights Earnie Shavers or Ken Norton. Q works better as an old duffer I think and it's weird watching Daniel Craig and Ben Whishaw together as Bond looks like his Grandfather. Two more films and Wishaw's baby faced Q will have to design a gadget laden wheelchair for our clapped out spy.

[Goldeneye]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-n ... 12/spyfall
A lot of Bond references in Stewart's "coverage" of the Petraeus Scandal.

[Napoleon Solo]

Early estimates are that Skyfall North American ticket sales will drop 65 percent this weekend:

http://www.deadline.com/2012/11/breakin ... um=twitter

Let's see how it plays out. Skyfall had pretty high ticket sales on Monday (a federal holiday) and even Tuesday. On a conference call this week, the MGM CEO said he expected worldwide ticket sales would exceed $800 million (after already recording $550 million). Meanwhile, the final Twilight movie isn't generating the level of ticket sales originally projected.

You can listen to the conference call yourself. Go here:

http://www.mgm.com/#/about/investor-relations

There's a link for the conference call. CEO Gary Barber talks up Skyfall in his prepared remarks. In the Q and A portion, he says Bond 24 may come out in 2014 *OR* 2015 (apparently softening the company's position that it wants to get the 007 series back on an every-other-year schedule). Barber also confirms that John Logan is writing Bond 24 and Bond 25.