Did Craig save Bond?

[carl stromberg]

Do you think the Eon Bond series was dead after Die Another Day, and did Craig save it?

[The Sweeney]

Do you think the Eon Bond series was dead after Die Another Day, and did Craig save it?

Absolutely. No doubt in my mind - YES!!!

Craig saved the franchise in the same way Brosnan did with GE.

[Skywalker]

Do you think the Eon Bond series was dead after Die Another Day, and did Craig save it?

Absolutely. No doubt in my mind - YES!!!

Craig saved the franchise in the same way Brosnan did with GE.

Look at the admissions for DAD, whether you like the film or not (I realise the most ardent Bond fans don't) It was a success and the series did not need saving.

The series needed saving after OHMSS, AVTAK and LTK. Yet 2 of these films are highly rated now.

[The Sweeney]

Do you think the Eon Bond series was dead after Die Another Day, and did Craig save it?

Absolutely. No doubt in my mind - YES!!!

Craig saved the franchise in the same way Brosnan did with GE.

Look at the admissions for DAD, whether you like the film or not (I realise the most ardent Bond fans don't) It was a success and the series did not need saving.

The series needed saving after OHMSS, AVTAK and LTK. Yet 2 of these films are highly rated now.

It was nothing to do with money. It was to do with the aftermath, the backlash, the fact that the franchise had gone stale, couldn't compete anymore with real films like Batman and Bourne. DAD was nothing more than a joke, and if CR had followed in the footsteps of DAD, trying to outdo DAD with more OTT crap, then the series would have been dead in the water. No doubt in my mind.

[Skywalker]

Do you think the Eon Bond series was dead after Die Another Day, and did Craig save it?

Absolutely. No doubt in my mind - YES!!!

Craig saved the franchise in the same way Brosnan did with GE.

Look at the admissions for DAD, whether you like the film or not (I realise the most ardent Bond fans don't) It was a success and the series did not need saving.

The series needed saving after OHMSS, AVTAK and LTK. Yet 2 of these films are highly rated now.

It was nothing to do with money. It was to do with the aftermath, the backlash, the fact that the franchise had gone stale, couldn't compete anymore with real films like Batman and Bourne. DAD was nothing more than a joke, and if CR had followed in the footsteps of DAD, trying to outdo DAD with more OTT crap, then the series would have been dead in the water. No doubt in my mind.

I appreciate you can't tolerate DAD, but your not being objective. It has everything to do with money. Admissions show the film to be popular, It grossed more than TWINE. This shows that Brozza's final film grossed more than his previous. I don't consider this to be a failure and don't think the franchise needed saving. IMO.

[The Sweeney]

Do you think the Eon Bond series was dead after Die Another Day, and did Craig save it?

Absolutely. No doubt in my mind - YES!!!

Craig saved the franchise in the same way Brosnan did with GE.

Look at the admissions for DAD, whether you like the film or not (I realise the most ardent Bond fans don't) It was a success and the series did not need saving.

The series needed saving after OHMSS, AVTAK and LTK. Yet 2 of these films are highly rated now.

It was nothing to do with money. It was to do with the aftermath, the backlash, the fact that the franchise had gone stale, couldn't compete anymore with real films like Batman and Bourne. DAD was nothing more than a joke, and if CR had followed in the footsteps of DAD, trying to outdo DAD with more OTT crap, then the series would have been dead in the water. No doubt in my mind.

I appreciate you can't tolerate DAD, but your not being objective. It has everything to do with money. Admissions show the film to be popular, It grossed more than TWINE. This shows that Brozza's final film grossed more than his previous. I don't consider this to be a failure and don't think the franchise needed saving. IMO.

DAD was a financial success, I don't deny that, so I am trying to be objective, but I do believe, the direction the series was heading, it would have burnt out. Other films sprouted up, and for me, showed how Bond films should have been.

And was I alone in this thinking? Obviously not, as EON agreed with me. And by the looks of things, so did many other people too - fans and critics alike. So my opinions can't have been that way off.

[Captain Nash]

Die Another Day was the Moonraker of our times. Hugely successful but crap.
And after Moonraker we got For Your Eyes Only, a more down to earth and old fashioned Bond film. Much like Casino Royale. Whether you like it or not Casino Royale is a more grounded Bond film, and instead of using a tried and tested Bond in Brosnan the producers opted for, different approach = different Bond.
Unlike Moonraker to For Your Eyes Only where they kept Moore on, who was starting to look old in the role by Octopussy they went for a new Bond.
As much as I don't think the series was dead, and another film was always going to happen, to save alot of trouble now they had to make changes, and make sure they worked. As it happens everything has turned out well and all are happy. Brosnan is now over the Bond role, most of the fans are happy with the new Bond the series is alive and well and Eon and Sony are still raking in the dollars. Pretty much a win, win for all.

[Skywalker]

Die Another Day was the Moonraker of our times. Hugely successful but crap.And after Moonraker we got For Your Eyes Only, a more down to earth and old fashioned Bond film. Much like Casino Royale. Whether you like it or not Casino Royale is a more grounded Bond film, and instead of using a tried and tested Bond in Brosnan the producers opted for, different approach = different Bond.
Unlike Moonraker to For Your Eyes Only where they kept Moore on, who was starting to look old in the role by Octopussy they went for a new Bond.
As much as I don't think the series was dead, and another film was always going to happen, to save alot of trouble now they had to make changes, and make sure they worked. As it happens everything has turned out well and all are happy. Brosnan is now over the Bond role, most of the fans are happy with the new Bond the series is alive and well and Eon and Sony are still raking in the dollars. Pretty much a win, win for all.

Like an unwanted boil, you have a tendancy to annoy me.

Casino Royale was like DAD, successful at the box office yet CRAP. It was hard but I managed to come down to your level.
















Only Joking.

[Captain Nash]

Search your feelings Skywalker, you know it to be true.

Die Another Day was a poor Bond film. Search the web some more you can read it all for free.
As for Casino Royale it's been a bigger success and appealed to a more mature audience, where as Die Another Day was more a kids flick.
I wonder if that could have something to do with it.

[Kristatos]

And after Moonraker we got For Your Eyes Only, a more down to earth and old fashioned Bond film. Much like Casino Royale.

That means the next film will be Octopussy

[Captain Nash]

And after Moonraker we got For Your Eyes Only, a more down to earth and old fashioned Bond film. Much like Casino Royale.

That means the next film will be Octopussy

No, that means that after a let down Bond film (Die Another Day) we got a more grounded and popular to a broader audience Bond film (Casino Royale) and therefore the follow up can hopefully continue down this path.
I'd be thinking more of the same or maybe a dose of From Russia With Love or Licence To Kill.
We'll see. It's exciting isn't it.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

I'd be thinking more of the same or maybe a dose of From Russia With Love or Licence To Kill.
We'll see. It's exciting isn't it.

Not really as they have badly miscast James Bond

[Captain Nash]

Well done.
How original.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

It's my opinion.

Have you ever felt an actor was miscast?

[Skywalker]

I'd be thinking more of the same or maybe a dose of From Russia With Love or Licence To Kill.
We'll see. It's exciting isn't it.

Not really as they have badly miscast James Bond

Are you refering to CR by any chance?

[paco chaos]

It's my opinion.

Have you ever felt an actor was miscast?

Keanu Reeves as John Constantine? Jennifer Garner as Elektra? Eva Green as Vesper Lynd?

[Jermaine76]

Do you think the Eon Bond series was dead after Die Another Day, and did Craig save it?

Absolutely. No doubt in my mind - YES!!!

Craig saved the franchise in the same way Brosnan did with GE.

I disagree. James Bond was not dead between 2002 and 2006. Brosnan was still a favorite and people were looking forward to his 5th film. There were also the video games that came out during that time. I know that not everyone plays games, but you must count them as a factor. People had their hangups with Die Another Day, but it made a lot of money in the theaters and DVD sales. Now, James Bond was dead between 1989-1995. The casting of Pierce Brosnan was perfect and he rejuvinated the series. Craig did nothing for the success of Casino Royale. James Bond is already popular now. No matter who was playing him, the movie was going to sell. How can you save a franchise thats not in a position to be saved?

[Jermaine76]

It was nothing to do with money. It was to do with the aftermath, the backlash, the fact that the franchise had gone stale, couldn't compete anymore with real films like Batman and Bourne. DAD was nothing more than a joke, and if CR had followed in the footsteps of DAD, trying to outdo DAD with more OTT crap, then the series would have been dead in the water. No doubt in my mind.

I wouldn't use the word stale. They just needed new writers IMO. I recall Brosnan wanted 007 to be more defined...going deep into his soul, his roots, etc. And this was after GoldenEye. I too was disappointed after DAD. I think most die hard fans were. But the casual fan and average movie goer like it. Like it or not, you must count the Halle Berry factor.

[markowen4lyf]

did it need saving? Pierce brosnan was great, no idea why he didnt do a 5th film - but bond is bond. daniel craig didnt save it he carried it on. Bond is NEVER going to need saving.

[carl stromberg]

did it need saving? Pierce brosnan was great, no idea why he didnt do a 5th film - but bond is bond. daniel craig didnt save it he carried it on. Bond is NEVER going to need saving.

I agree!