The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[carl stromberg]

I've just heard that the Queen is planning to appoint BJMDDS as Prime Minister if no party wins in the UK General election tomorrow.

[bjmdds]

I'll take that job and no way will I knight CRegg.

[katied]

I'll take that job and no way will I knight CRegg.

Is Craig even eligible for a knighthood? I mean, he has been in the Bond films, but surely that's not enough to get him considered? Just sayin'.....

[Mazer Rackham]

I'll take that job and no way will I knight CRegg.

Is Craig even eligible for a knighthood? I mean, he has been in the Bond films, but surely that's not enough to get him considered? Just sayin'.....

Brozza will be Knighted long before Craig. Of the Bonds Sir Sean, Sir Rog, & Sir Pierce make sense for their popularity and positive portrayal of 007 and the British as well as their good works and lifetime of contributing to the community. What are Craig's charities? Aside from himself. Literally the studio cobbled together a cause for him last minute before beginning the CR PR tour. Borzza boycotted the GE French premier in protest of the Frogs nuking whales or some other leftest complaint. But it was a principled stand that was his own not one a committee found for him to embrace.

[bjmdds]

Iron Man II was huge at $133 million opening weekend. Could a future Bond film from Eon top $100 million in the USA opening weekend? Not with DC.

[FormerBondFan]

Could a future Bond film from Eon top $100 million in the USA opening weekend? Not with DC.

As long as DC's in it, I hope not.

[katied]

Could a future Bond film from Eon top $100 million in the USA opening weekend? Not with DC.

The way things are going, it seems doubtful. Add to that the expectation for Bond 23 to make money for MGM(if they're still under the MGM banner that is!)

[James]

Good post on CBn the other day.

It was shocking and disappointing how quickly and definitively the Craig era ran out of steam. Hopefully Eon will never again put a film into production without a decent, solid script (even by Bond movie standards, QUANTUM OF BOREDOM doesn't tell any kind of story worth a d**n - it makes THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN look like a multilayered work of complex drama, and there's almost a -you attitude of defiant, pretentious minimalism that's very tiresome). Also, I think the series could use a break in order for Eon to figure out how and why all the fun seems to have drained out of the Bond films, and how to put it back in. QUANTUM is the cinematic equivalent of a particularly angry and downbeat Joy Division record (but without the substance). I'd also say "go light". I really, really, really want Eon to - for once - ease off on the self-importance and give it a rest with all the angst/personal missions/peeling back the layers. It's as though Broccoli and Wilson simply wouldn't be caught dead making A Regular Bond Movie™. Y'know, like GOLDFINGER, or THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, or OCTOPUSSY, or all those other worthless pieces of garbage that, actually, the world absolutely loved. Artistic/intellectual aspirations are great, but, all too often, the Bond series has of late been infected by pretentiousness and joylessness, and the po-faced chest-beating reached its nadir with QUANTUM OF SOLACE. I'd just love the next Bond flick to make me leave the cinema not feeling I've just sat through something that's just two steps away from Anton Corbijn's CONTROL.

[katied]

Good post on CBn the other day.

It was shocking and disappointing how quickly and definitively the Craig era ran out of steam. Hopefully Eon will never again put a film into production without a decent, solid script (even by Bond movie standards, QUANTUM OF BOREDOM doesn't tell any kind of story worth a d**n - it makes THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN look like a multilayered work of complex drama, and there's almost a -you attitude of defiant, pretentious minimalism that's very tiresome). Also, I think the series could use a break in order for Eon to figure out how and why all the fun seems to have drained out of the Bond films, and how to put it back in. QUANTUM is the cinematic equivalent of a particularly angry and downbeat Joy Division record (but without the substance). I'd also say "go light". I really, really, really want Eon to - for once - ease off on the self-importance and give it a rest with all the angst/personal missions/peeling back the layers. It's as though Broccoli and Wilson simply wouldn't be caught dead making A Regular Bond Movie™. Y'know, like GOLDFINGER, or THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, or OCTOPUSSY, or all those other worthless pieces of garbage that, actually, the world absolutely loved. Artistic/intellectual aspirations are great, but, all too often, the Bond series has of late been infected by pretentiousness and joylessness, and the po-faced chest-beating reached its nadir with QUANTUM OF SOLACE. I'd just love the next Bond flick to make me leave the cinema not feeling I've just sat through something that's just two steps away from Anton Corbijn's CONTROL.

I like Joy Division, and I likedControl,but does that sort of thing belong in a Bond film?No.

[oscartheman]

Was this guy a ProCraig bot before?

[James]

Yes, I believe he likes Craig and Casino Royale but just feels the approach EON took by casting him and changing the style probably doesn't have legs.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

Good post on CBn the other day.

It was shocking and disappointing how quickly and definitively the Craig era ran out of steam. Hopefully Eon will never again put a film into production without a decent, solid script (even by Bond movie standards, QUANTUM OF BOREDOM doesn't tell any kind of story worth a d**n - it makes THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN look like a multilayered work of complex drama, and there's almost a -you attitude of defiant, pretentious minimalism that's very tiresome). Also, I think the series could use a break in order for Eon to figure out how and why all the fun seems to have drained out of the Bond films, and how to put it back in. QUANTUM is the cinematic equivalent of a particularly angry and downbeat Joy Division record (but without the substance). I'd also say "go light". I really, really, really want Eon to - for once - ease off on the self-importance and give it a rest with all the angst/personal missions/peeling back the layers. It's as though Broccoli and Wilson simply wouldn't be caught dead making A Regular Bond Movie™. Y'know, like GOLDFINGER, or THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, or OCTOPUSSY, or all those other worthless pieces of garbage that, actually, the world absolutely loved. Artistic/intellectual aspirations are great, but, all too often, the Bond series has of late been infected by pretentiousness and joylessness, and the po-faced chest-beating reached its nadir with QUANTUM OF SOLACE. I'd just love the next Bond flick to make me leave the cinema not feeling I've just sat through something that's just two steps away from Anton Corbijn's CONTROL.

Some of us were saying most of this in 2006.

[JackWade CIA]

Yes, I believe he likes Craig and Casino Royale but just feels the approach EON took by casting him and changing the style probably doesn't have legs.

Good post on CBn the other day.

It was shocking and disappointing how quickly and definitively the Craig era ran out of steam. Hopefully Eon will never again put a film into production without a decent, solid script (even by Bond movie standards, QUANTUM OF BOREDOM doesn't tell any kind of story worth a d**n - it makes THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN look like a multilayered work of complex drama, and there's almost a -you attitude of defiant, pretentious minimalism that's very tiresome). Also, I think the series could use a break in order for Eon to figure out how and why all the fun seems to have drained out of the Bond films, and how to put it back in. QUANTUM is the cinematic equivalent of a particularly angry and downbeat Joy Division record (but without the substance). I'd also say "go light". I really, really, really want Eon to - for once - ease off on the self-importance and give it a rest with all the angst/personal missions/peeling back the layers. It's as though Broccoli and Wilson simply wouldn't be caught dead making A Regular Bond Movie™. Y'know, like GOLDFINGER, or THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, or OCTOPUSSY, or all those other worthless pieces of garbage that, actually, the world absolutely loved. Artistic/intellectual aspirations are great, but, all too often, the Bond series has of late been infected by pretentiousness and joylessness, and the po-faced chest-beating reached its nadir with QUANTUM OF SOLACE. I'd just love the next Bond flick to make me leave the cinema not feeling I've just sat through something that's just two steps away from Anton Corbijn's CONTROL.

Some of us were saying most of this in 2006.

I mostly agree with their take on this. Quantum is such a bad movie it exposes the weakness prevalent in CR, although it should have been a once in lifetime stand alone film. The strong point of a modernized rough Bond is lost, the whole point of casting Craig seems pointless. Especially since it appears he is done with only two under his belt. Not that I was ever certain he could have pulled off a third that could salvage his legacy.

[James]

I think if you've seen Daniel Craig looking sullen and smashing through glass for two hours you've more or less seen the whole act. We don't really need four or five films worth of this.

[katied]

^Especially if there is a gap between films and he doesn't age well.I've said it once and I'll say it again:There is only so much you can do with plastic surgery!

[Blowfeld]

Ian Dunross has a new piece.
L’affaire MGM -Studio turmoil halts the 23rd Bond film, if anyone still cares

Or here on the forum

[katied]

Heh.Juding by the articles that are being written, as far as Bond 23 goes, the consensus(especially among people in the buisness) is "and this matters *why* exactly?"

[Lady Elaine Fairchild]

Heh.Juding by the articles that are being written, as far as Bond 23 goes, the consensus(especially among people in the buisness) is "and this matters *why* exactly?"

After Pierce we expect a new Bond after any delay no matter how slight. Pierce was out there as the official face of Bond in 2004 with the video game and 2005 fans had assurances he would be back despite what they were already planning to do. I think people are realizing it doesn't matter if Craig comes back not to Bond anyway.

[katied]

After Pierce we expect a new Bond after any delay no matter how slight. Pierce was out there as the official face of Bond in 2004 with the video game and 2005 fans had assurances he would be back despite what they were already planning to do. I think people are realizing it doesn't matter if Craig comes back not to Bond anyway.

I agree with that, to a point.

There are a lot of people who refuse to be negative and don't want to hear any sort of discussion about Craig being replaced.That's not an exaggeration, either! But the longer the hiatus is(if it comes to that)I think people will be more convinced that Craig needs to be replaced.

[bjmdds]

Heh.Juding by the articles that are being written, as far as Bond 23 goes, the consensus(especially among people in the buisness) is "and this matters *why* exactly?"

After Pierce we expect a new Bond after any delay no matter how slight. Pierce was out there as the official face of Bond in 2004 with the video game and 2005 fans had assurances he would be back despite what they were already planning to do. I think people are realizing it doesn't matter if Craig comes back not to Bond anyway.

Lady EF, welcome. DC is hopefully out and Eon will have a good excuse with a new owner demanding a better product that will open with $100 million in the USA opening weekend. Will DC be replaced before BP gets their act together and stop the oil leak in the gulf?