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This is an interesting topic. A conversation about another site at the very top of this one.

I wonder about the comments because the sites seem alike except that the views about Craig are different.

Both sites appear to be friendly. Although any comments about the "other" site being cliquey is odd when you consider that as soon as you sign in here you see this:

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That hasn't put me off from this site. But I don't think the other site does the same thing.

I have lurked on tons of forums :oops: and have noticed that most of the people on them have desk jobs. I guess that's why they have the opportunity or time to post or view the sites. I am at my desk job right now and instead of leaning over to the next cubicle to talk to a coworker, I am posting here.

Am I more a loser for lurking all day instead of posting or visa versa?
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Summer Breeze wrote:This is an interesting topic. A conversation about another site at the very top of this one.

I wonder about the comments because the sites seem alike except that the views about Craig are different.

Both sites appear to be friendly. Although any comments about the "other" site being cliquey is odd when you consider that as soon as you sign in here you see this:

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That hasn't put me off from this site. But I don't think the other site does the same thing.

I have lurked on tons of forums :oops: and have noticed that most of the people on them have desk jobs. I guess that's why they have the opportunity or time to post or view the sites. I am at my desk job right now and instead of leaning over to the next cubicle to talk to a coworker, I am posting here.

Am I more a loser for lurking all day instead of posting or visa versa?
It is boring to talk about the MI6 site. But our point is that they do not allow people to express criticism about Daniel Craig as James Bond. That's why we often discuss the site.

One main complaint we have is that MI6, CommanderBond etc are supposed to be James bond fansites with people giving their views. You are allowed to criticise You Only Live Twice, Roger Moore, Toby Stephens etc but get flamed if you criticise Daniel Craig.

As you can tell by the name of the website and forum, we do not have an objective editorial line on Daniel Craig as James Bond! But we do have some nice, intellegent "pro-Craigers" who post.

The reputation tool you quoted in your picture has been ruined a bit by people using it for "political reasons" and it will be scrapped soon, I think; so don't read too much into that!

You can read the forum if you want to (why would anyone want to do that! :twisted: :twisted: ) or you can do some posts.

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Thank you.

I know that some sites have agendas. I just do not see how bad MI6 is. I have read many people putting down Craig there and it seems to be taken fine. They put down all the actors except for Connery. I think it's how you criticise that is flamed.

It is clear that people team up on this forum as well as on MI6. I see that on all the forums I read. katied got a reputation thumb up from bj for exposing MI6. I wondered what there was to expose when it is all out in the open for anyone to read.
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May I say something?

Honestly speaking the members on this site seem like respectable, intelligent human beings.

I've got to say I feel the same about MI6! I think the difference is that MI6 is so huge, there are bound to be idiots who post nonsense there.

Personally speaking, the only members who don't get respect are the crybabies, and those who are so stuck to one side of an argument they are no longer open minded. These closed minded individuals are on both sides of every argument and honestly they ruin it for everyone.

They ruin it for those who do not like Daniel Craig, because they fear that all members who are not a fan of his or Cr wil be attacked. they also ruin it for the fans of Daniel Craig as well, because it makes them seem like "a group junior highschool students"

There are very well respected members who are not fans of Craig/CR

VMSNS - liked Cr but doesn't praise it that much
Vesper - thinks CR is overrated
Chanandler Bong - LOVES Die Another Day

The members who don't get respect are those who claim to be know it alls and refuse to be open to discussion (which contradicts the whole point of a forum)!

These are the members that purposely start anti CR/Craig threads without any content in them, or whine about Brosnan, and keep complaining for no reason. MI6 is a positive community and I believe that as long as you can post your opinion and a reason for it in a happy, positive manner, you will be welcomed with open arms.

There is a certain member, for example who spams each and every thread with anti Brosnan posts. He seems to be the know it all of "acting chops." He thinks Craig is God. I wager he gets less respect than Thrice.

Has he been banned? No. Just like those who do not like Daniel Craig haven't been banned. It's hard to ban any member. Respect, or opinion has nothing to do with it. By the way katied the mods don't have the power to ban members. If a member has broken the rules he gets warned, regardless of status (trust me, I know). Banning only happens after repeated warnings and when an Admin is online.

A different opinion is more than welcomed on MI6! I'd like to go as far as to encourage many of you to join there if you don't believe me. As long as you post your opinions in a polite manner, with the intent to discuss and not argue you'll be welcomed with open arms. I'd even defend you if you were attacked by those few members who are closed minded on the other side of the fence.

It's a matter of being open minded, it really is. Of course if you join and your first post is about how you hate Daniel Craig nobody will take you seriously because at first glance they'll think you're the next Thrice. On the other hand if you join with the intent of contributing to the forum, make some freinds and talk about your feelings on the current James bond people wil be more than happy to accept that.

The only problem is ignoring those few, that I mentioned earlier, who are as closed minded as can be. A lot of members on MI6 don't like Moore, but the Moore fans still haven't declared war. why? Because it's a positive community and members will respect the opinions of other members.

I hope some of you take into consideration what I said, and if so it would be nice to see you on MI6. Maybe we can finally brake down this Berlin Wall of the internet that seems to be separating two groups of people with the same interests.

We're all bond fans here, the least we could do is get along. :) right?

Oh and Katied what you say surprises me. From how you used to post about this place on MI6, you really seem to have come to some sort of turnaround. Relax... this is the internet. :roll:
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carl stromberg wrote:I was talking about the titles sequence - not sure why I wrote pre-credit sequence. :oops:

And just to add to the embarrasment, I meant that some anti-Craigers liked the CR titles sequence. :oops:
My bad;the titles were fine.I think I'm in the minority as far as liking Chris Cornell's Bond theme goes *shrug*
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Because it's a positive community and members will respect the opinions .
LOL,that's a good one!

Banning only happens after repeated warnings and when an Admin is online.

They may be online,but as I've already pointed out on more than one occasion,they are ineffective,at best.And it's the same people trying to be wanna-be mods *cough* Retrokitty *cough*
I'd like to go as far as to encourage many of you to join there if you don't believe me
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katied wrote:
carl stromberg wrote:I was talking about the titles sequence - not sure why I wrote pre-credit sequence. :oops:

And just to add to the embarrasment, I meant that some anti-Craigers liked the CR titles sequence. :oops:
My bad;the titles were fine.I think I'm in the minority as far as liking Chris Cornell's Bond theme goes *shrug*
I love Cornell's theme. A big improvement on the 3 previous Bond themes.
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AbsolutelyJamesBond has Craig supporters and people who can't stand him being Bond but they all seem to get on. In fact the divide there is a source of friendly humour between the camps. For some reason it didn't pan out like that at MI6.
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James wrote:AbsolutelyJamesBond has Craig supporters and people who can't stand him being Bond but they all seem to get on. In fact the divide there is a source of friendly humour between the camps. For some reason it didn't pan out like that at MI6.
I know,right!!!

And therein lies the rub.I like Daniel Craig,but I'm open to other opinions. Like you said,it's not that way at MI6.
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No. They do have a magazine to flog I suppose...
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Which is made up out of recycled material,as I've pointed out before.Still, people buy it. Sheeple.
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I think the knowledge that it will contain photographs of Daniel Craig and his one facial expression puts me off somewhat.
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I'm tempted to make some sort of crack about those pictures putting people off their dinner but I won't :lol:
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Wow, real mature guys.

It's funny katied, you're exactly the person I was describing. You're not open minded, not positive, not welcoming.

Back at MI6 the slightest dab at Craig and you'd give 'em the rolly eyes. You'd attack thrice even when he made sense. then when members defended thrice when you overreacted you attacked them too....

In the title sequence thread you called all the title sequences passé and defended the lady who thought they were sexist. then you supported the CR one calling it the only good one in years. then you went on and attacked anyone who had enough of an open mind to discuss whether or not going back to the naked gun ladies was a good idea or not.

Then when people actually try to discuss things with you all you give them is" :roll: "or: "YEAH RIGHT GOOD ONE!!!111!111!!!11!1111" in big giant letters. so much for adding to the discussion eh? Hell, you just did it again in response to me.

Yep, katied, you were what's wrong with MI6. The best part is how you're being so hypocritical about it. Every negative aspect you mentioned about MI6 fits your description perfectly. Narrow minded, negative, one sided, with the maturity of a High school student.

It's funny though, how people at MI6 think this is such a horrible place. The people here are so mature, and open. It's a shame that the DCINB forum reputation has to be tarnished with your arrival.

(and by the way, arguments and complaints about MI6.co.uk don't make sense. Whatever you have against the forum, the website is just a resource not a place for discussion, it's like hating google. Oh yeah, the second edition of MI6 magazine focuses on Moore and TSWLM)
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Well said Dcbn, well said.
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It's funny katied, you're exactly the person I was describing. You're not open minded, not positive, not welcoming
Just look at the people at MI6. They're a zillion times worse.

Back at MI6 the slightest dab at Craig and you'd give 'em the rolly eyes. You'd attack thrice even when he made sense. then when members defended thrice when you overreacted you attacked them too....
1)People change.I'm not the Craig fan I was when I joined.As James said,the divisiveness about Craig vs. Brosnan spills over onto way too many threads there-it divides people.

2)I am hardly the only one making the Thrice problem worse, and by patting him on the head and rewarding him they were enabling him(though at the time I quit posting there he was behaving himself)

In the title sequence thread you called all the title sequences passé and defended the lady who thought they were sexist. then you supported the CR one calling it the only good one in years. then you went on and attacked anyone who had enough of an open mind to discuss whether or not going back to the naked gun ladies was a good idea or not
I DO think the dancing ladies are sexist.Personal taste.And there are a lot of people over there that have an unnatural attachment to the dancing ladies(among other things-just look at how many times the "Should Blofeld be brought back" discussion has come up there)and it's scary how many people want the Dr. Evil Blofeld :roll: What made the CR titles great was a LACK of dancing ladies.Sorry.

Then when people actually try to discuss things with you all you give them is" :roll: "or: "YEAH RIGHT GOOD ONE!!!111!111!!!11!1111" in big giant letters. so much for adding to the discussion eh? Hell, you just did it again in response to me.
And there aren't people at MI6 that do that?I saw a LOT of post wh*oring going on when I was there.Pot,meet kettle.

It's funny though, how people at MI6 think this is such a horrible place. The people here are so mature, and open. It's a shame that the DCINB forum reputation has to be tarnished with your arrival
The "in crowd" at MI6 has been brainwashed to think it's this wonderful place :roll:
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Katied, looks like you got the attention you wanted afterall. Everyone's been talking about you in MI6. :wink:
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Do you think I care? Honestly,they act like they are the only game in town. Wow,that is such a happy place to be for someone who is new to posting there.Toxic,even. :evil:
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Katied I never said you were the only one, but the others like you don't get much respect either.

Also, yes the pretitles is a mattaer of taste, like most opinions it does come down to taste. On the other hand though there's a difference between discussing why they should or shouldn't be brought back and just rolling your eyes at people. How is that supposed to be friendly fun discussion.

There were and still are members at MI6 that are just as bad, but I honestly don't think a forum should be judged by a few bad apples.

The fact is that people who are not such huge fans of DC/CR are still welcomed and respected on that forum. All people need to do is relax.

I mean for heaven's sake it's a forum about a movie series! It's not like we're rewriting the bible here.

It's weird though. there is so much hostility on the internet...for no reason at all.
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It's down to how n00bs are treated at MI6..like cr*ap.Nobody wants to know.That's why I think it's a clique over there.


"a few bad apples".Excuse me but.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: *cough*bullcr*ap*cough*
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