The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

Indeed. I TRY to go more plant based but darn it, I do love a good steak once in a while. Ironic, as right now I am in Texas..someplace where they take red meat very seriously!

I'm the same. My problem is that when I do try to eat plant-based stuff, I tend to go for the meat substitutes, which are probably filled with as much chemical crap as (non-organic) meat, if not more.

This discussion should probably be in the food thread. There seems little point in having dedicated threads for different subjects if they just end up being replicated in here.

[bjmdds]

Robbie Collin, film critic:
Late 2026, at the ­earliest. Maybe 2027. Perhaps even 2028!

"You’re reading this because you want to know about the next James Bond film: the one that will pick up where the Daniel Cr-egg series left off, and introduce a brand new 007. But the above dates – the British film industry’s current best guesses as to when we’ll actually see the thing, as shared with me by a senior talent representative last weekend – is, for now, about all there is to know. There is no script, no title, not even a director – though I’m told a small number of contenders have been summoned to Eon Productions’ London HQ for what have been described as “a first round of speed dates”. No setting has been chosen, no source material selected, from the Ian Fleming novels or elsewhere........The candidate to gain most ­traction so far is Aaron Taylor-Johnson, whom The Sun reported had been “formally offered the role” in March this year. Chapman describes the story as “a rumour, but possibly an official rumour – a testing of the waters by Eon, just to see what the public reaction would be”. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2024/ ... ames-bond/

[Omega]

Saw Alien Romulus today and one of the previews was for the new Aaron Taylor Johnson movie Kraven.It looks dreadful .

Yeah heaven is a great character but the movie / trailer isn’t there for what it supposed to be.


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[Omega]

Robbie Collin, film critic:
Late 2026, at the ­earliest. Maybe 2027. Perhaps even 2028!

"You’re reading this because you want to know about the next James Bond film: the one that will pick up where the Daniel Cr-egg series left off, and introduce a brand new 007. But the above dates – the British film industry’s current best guesses as to when we’ll actually see the thing, as shared with me by a senior talent representative last weekend – is, for now, about all there is to know. There is no script, no title, not even a director – though I’m told a small number of contenders have been summoned to Eon Productions’ London HQ for what have been described as “a first round of speed dates”. No setting has been chosen, no source material selected, from the Ian Fleming novels or elsewhere........The candidate to gain most ­traction so far is Aaron Taylor-Johnson, whom The Sun reported had been “formally offered the role” in March this year. Chapman describes the story as “a rumour, but possibly an official rumour – a testing of the waters by Eon, just to see what the public reaction would be”. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2024/ ... ames-bond/

Thing to remember is Babs has final say in casting of bond , this is from the contract when saltzman sold out. But she didn’t want to work with Amazon from the start. And I don’t believe she wants to make the only thing her production is good at. The way I see it the longer she waits less likely the revival of the brand will be. In one way she is facing a clock on other brands taking bonds spot and whenever the right run out which has happened in other countries . Last movie she made was pre Covid .


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[bjmdds]

Worldofreel.com: So, who are the top contenders right now to helm the next Bond?
As suspected, and previously reported, Edward Berger is the current frontrunner to direct, but it’s the other names in contention that are more surprising. Bart Layton (The Imposter) and Yann Demange (’71) are being deemed as “plausible choices,” according to the report. David Michod is another director being name-dropped as a possibility. Michod is currently editing a “new version” of his upcoming A24 stoner dramedy, “Wizards!, which test screened late last year. We might expect that one to be released in the fall. His other filmmaking credits include “Animal Kingdom,” “The Rover,” and “War Machine.” Kelly Marcel, who wrote all three of those ‘Venom’ movies, and has actually now graduated to directing the new one (“The Last Dance”), set for release this fall, is another highly touted possibility. Marcel also adapted “Fifty Shades of Grey,” “Cruella” and “Saving Mr. Banks.”

[Kristatos]

Worldofreel.com: So, who are the top contenders right now to helm the next Bond?
As suspected, and previously reported, Edward Berger is the current frontrunner to direct, but it’s the other names in contention that are more surprising. Bart Layton (The Imposter) and Yann Demange (’71) are being deemed as “plausible choices,” according to the report. David Michod is another director being name-dropped as a possibility. Michod is currently editing a “new version” of his upcoming A24 stoner dramedy, “Wizards!, which test screened late last year. We might expect that one to be released in the fall. His other filmmaking credits include “Animal Kingdom,” “The Rover,” and “War Machine.” Kelly Marcel, who wrote all three of those ‘Venom’ movies, and has actually now graduated to directing the new one (“The Last Dance”), set for release this fall, is another highly touted possibility. Marcel also adapted “Fifty Shades of Grey,” “Cruella” and “Saving Mr. Banks.”

Never heard of any of them, though I've heard of the films Marcel wrote.

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[bjmdds]

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/8 ... contention

[dirtybenny]

Worldofreel.com: So, who are the top contenders right now to helm the next Bond?
As suspected, and previously reported, Edward Berger is the current frontrunner to direct, but it’s the other names in contention that are more surprising. Bart Layton (The Imposter) and Yann Demange (’71) are being deemed as “plausible choices,” according to the report. David Michod is another director being name-dropped as a possibility. Michod is currently editing a “new version” of his upcoming A24 stoner dramedy, “Wizards!, which test screened late last year. We might expect that one to be released in the fall. His other filmmaking credits include “Animal Kingdom,” “The Rover,” and “War Machine.” Kelly Marcel, who wrote all three of those ‘Venom’ movies, and has actually now graduated to directing the new one (“The Last Dance”), set for release this fall, is another highly touted possibility. Marcel also adapted “Fifty Shades of Grey,” “Cruella” and “Saving Mr. Banks.”

Never heard of any of them, though I've heard of the films Marcel wrote.

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Me neither, I'd say it's a publicist drumming up some chatter for their client(s). Especially Michod and Marcel, who get the lion's share of the press.

[bjmdds]

Martin Campbell is reportedly under consideration for the job of directing James Bond 26, and if he gets it, it would be the third Bond reboot in a row he’s directed.

[Kristatos]

Campbell is now in his eighties and has said that he doesn't want to do any more Bond films. I would be very surprised if there is any truth in this story.

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[Omega]

They always bring up Campbells name when they want to get holy, speak of goldeneye and casino royale reverently. during Craig’s era they float Campbells name in between directors. Campbell was supposed to comeback for QOS the first direct sequel to any bond movie whose opening sequence was supposedly filmed during CR . All bs Campbell was always clear he didn’t want to return, but when eon / fanboys get in trouble they call on his name to bring legitimacy to their cause.

Who have thought in retrospect CR would be the high watermark on Craig’s bond career, sure had had other movies more acclaimed at the time but the only one that still is though well of years on is cr.


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[bjmdds]

ATJ showed up at the Venice film festival without his motherly wife:

[bjmdds]

Cr-egg arrived in Venice as well and brought his wife:

[bjmdds]

Look at the way Broccoli held on to Cr-egg in pictures. You cannot put a sheet of paper between them! Producers do NOT usually act this way in public with their casting couch victims!

[Jason]

Thanks for sharing, Acid.

I do believe, no matter my feelings about Brosnan, Goldeneye would not have been the success it was with anyone else cast in the role. Not Dalton. Not Neeson or Fiennes (two actors I heard were looked at.
Bottom line, no matter my feelings, the right man was chosen for the role, to kick-start Bond in a new era.
The scripts seems to suffer with each film he did. And I am in a minority here: I don't blame P and W. There were a multitude of script doctors brought on board and wacky directors like Tamahori that drove the original scripts into the ground. And the tacked-on pseudo drama. It was horrible.

Saying that, there's no denying that these were box office successes. These Bond films weren't for me. Bits and pieces had quick flashes that appealed to me, but no, these felt more and more like 90s action pastiche. And I didn't want that. I wanted Bond.

But worldwide audiences ate these flicks up. And I got it. I understood why. Unfortunately, it just wasn't to my tastes.

Which doubly frustrates me about the damned Craig films. For the most part, I thought the scripts were, generally, very good (Spectre's not included in this assessment). From a storytelling and character perspective, they were very good.

But ultimately, the final product just didn't click. And I think that apart from the scripts, everything else that came after, didn't build off of story, it built off something entirely external: prestige.

When you're chasing awards, or attention from the awards-crowd, then, ultimately, the project fails in authenticity; every choice made, outside of the script, was to garner attention. And I felt that, so these films never fully clicked. I liked them, generally, better than the Brosnan period, but I didn't LOVE them as I did the Connery era, some of Moore, and Dalton.

But again, I hate to be a broken record: box office doesn't lie. Worldwide audiences ate these films up. And in some cases, these audiences believed that Bond was being elevated (my wife being one of them!! She humours me, watches the Bond films once in a while, but she was all in on Craig and those five films, with her bawling at the end of the last one).

Now, production wise, I have no complaints: they're big, beautifully executed films, candy for the eyes, in most cases. But as a whole... It never came together.

I saw great Bond films in each of the Craig scripts... It just never bubbled to the surface.

I also think Craig has been a spectacular actor, and I enjoyed his energy in the first two films, if not quite convinced this was truly James Bond.

But by SF, he took a nose dive and landed on his face.

It's a frustrating period for me to discuss. I saw potential greatness, but it never came to fruition. And in the whole, I've felt I haven't seen a genuine James Bond film since Daylights (I love License to Kill, but the production quality just didn't have that sexiness of past Bond films).

I haven't lost hope. I am still a fan. I can still see unique things in the Craig period that I did almost love, but as an experiment, for me, it failed.

I'll try and write more about my frustrations at another date. I could probably write a book on the subject.

From my vantage point, Craig has limited acting range. His Bond suffered because he is a very poor comedic actor. Dalton far superior even though some of his one liners fell flat but look at him in Hot Fuzz, he could at least make fun of himself. Something Craig's self absorption could never allow.

[dirtybenny]

From my vantage point, Craig has limited acting range. His Bond suffered because he is a very poor comedic actor. Dalton far superior even though some of his one liners fell flat but look at him in Hot Fuzz, he could at least make fun of himself. Something Craig's self absorption could never allow.

Good point Jason, in addition, I felt Craig looked very uncomfortable in the love scenes, in fact the only time I ever felt he was at ease in his films were when he was getting his manhood smashed by Le Chiffre or his chest fondled by Silva.

[Jason]

From my vantage point, Craig has limited acting range. His Bond suffered because he is a very poor comedic actor. Dalton far superior even though some of his one liners fell flat but look at him in Hot Fuzz, he could at least make fun of himself. Something Craig's self absorption could never allow.

Good point Jason, in addition, I felt Craig looked very uncomfortable in the love scenes, in fact the only time I ever felt he was at ease in his films were when he was getting his manhood smashed by Le Chiffre or his chest fondled by Silva.

The Bellucci scene was awkward. Clearly he was uncomfortable. such bad acting on his part.

[dirtybenny]

From my vantage point, Craig has limited acting range. His Bond suffered because he is a very poor comedic actor. Dalton far superior even though some of his one liners fell flat but look at him in Hot Fuzz, he could at least make fun of himself. Something Craig's self absorption could never allow.

Good point Jason, in addition, I felt Craig looked very uncomfortable in the love scenes, in fact the only time I ever felt he was at ease in his films were when he was getting his manhood smashed by Le Chiffre or his chest fondled by Silva.

The Bellucci scene was awkward. Clearly he was uncomfortable. such bad acting on his part.

She was pretty uncomfortable too, did you notice the tear that rolls down her cheek as he forces himself on her?

[Jason]

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/arts/articl ... -h0qf80k22 more speculation article dated 9/1/24

[Kristatos]

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/arts/articl ... -h0qf80k22 more speculation article dated 9/1/24

It's 1989 all over again.

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