The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

I will see the Mahoney Brothers tomorrow night in an outdoor summer concert in New Jersey. They are quite good at what they do.

[Kristatos]

I will see the Mahoney Brothers tomorrow night in an outdoor summer concert in New Jersey. They are quite good at what they do.

Hope you enjoy it. I went to a socially distanced gig recently. It's good to have live music back.

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[dirtybenny]

Question for the mods, are we having trouble with the forum membership registration? I've had a few potential members contact me through the DCINB page asking to join the forum, but were unable to register. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Goldeneye]

I activated registration again. Meant to do so long ago. After the last bot attack we turned it off, it was intended to be only temporary.

[bjmdds]

How about fixing the VIDEO posting capability. I still cannot do that.

[Sandeep Jacobin]

In all fairness I can't say the author's examples are all gems and of course he has to state the "universal truths" that CR and SF are "modern classics," but it's interesting to see the mask starting to slip, a few years ago it would have been unfathomable to criticize his highness Craig's masterpieces.

I will assume CR and SF are Casino Royale and Skyfall but I must disagree with you. Both movies, and especially Skyfall, are classics and true manifestation of film as art. They exemplify revolutionary filmmaking. They reflect modern world, they adapt to progressive culture that now go enchanting the world, and Daniel Craig has redefined James Bond character. This is now a progressive hero for today.

[Kristatos]

In all fairness I can't say the author's examples are all gems and of course he has to state the "universal truths" that CR and SF are "modern classics," but it's interesting to see the mask starting to slip, a few years ago it would have been unfathomable to criticize his highness Craig's masterpieces.

I will assume CR and SF are Casino Royale and Skyfall but I must disagree with you. Both movies, and especially Skyfall, are classics and true manifestation of film as art. They exemplify revolutionary filmmaking. They reflect modern world, they adapt to progressive culture that now go enchanting the world, and Daniel Craig has redefined James Bond character. This is now a progressive hero for today.

Hi Sandeep. You're new here, so I shall be polite. This is a forum for people who were unhappy with the reboot, and with the casting of Daniel Craig as Bond. It was originally called Daniel Craig Is Not Bond, but later changed its name to Classic Bond Forum, in preparation for Craig's long overdue departure from the role. Hope that helps.

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[dirtybenny]

In all fairness I can't say the author's examples are all gems and of course he has to state the "universal truths" that CR and SF are "modern classics," but it's interesting to see the mask starting to slip, a few years ago it would have been unfathomable to criticize his highness Craig's masterpieces.

I will assume CR and SF are Casino Royale and Skyfall but I must disagree with you. Both movies, and especially Skyfall, are classics and true manifestation of film as art. They exemplify revolutionary filmmaking. They reflect modern world, they adapt to progressive culture that now go enchanting the world, and Daniel Craig has redefined James Bond character. This is now a progressive hero for today.

Hi Sandeep. You're new here, so I shall be polite. This is a forum for people who were unhappy with the reboot, and with the casting of Daniel Craig as Bond. It was originally called Daniel Craig Is Not Bond, but later changed its name to Classic Bond Forum, in preparation for Craig's long overdue departure from the role. Hope that helps.

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Judging by his excessive use of "progressive" and the claim that SF is a "manifestation of film as art" I'd say Sandeep is having a bit of fun. If I'm wrong, we'll to each thier own I guess.

[bjmdds]

In all fairness I can't say the author's examples are all gems and of course he has to state the "universal truths" that CR and SF are "modern classics," but it's interesting to see the mask starting to slip, a few years ago it would have been unfathomable to criticize his highness Craig's masterpieces.

I will assume CR and SF are Casino Royale and Skyfall but I must disagree with you. Both movies, and especially Skyfall, are classics and true manifestation of film as art. They exemplify revolutionary filmmaking. They reflect modern world, they adapt to progressive culture that now go enchanting the world, and Daniel Craig has redefined James Bond character. This is now a progressive hero for today.

Hello Sandeep. Welcome to the mayhem known as Daniel Cr-egg. What does being 'progressive' have to do with a spy film, which is action and adventure, or at least it was? Blofeld a step-brother? Bond with an Oedipus complex with the former M? Male emasculation by his female superior? A mumbling hyena as Bond? A female lead half Cr-egg's age that is as exciting as watching paint dry? Cr-egg has defiled the character. How do you feel about Page being the new Bond replacement favorite? This would be utter lunacy. You do not recreate a franchise by supplanting Fleming's characters by checking off woke boxes to reflect the times. Progressive culture is enchanting to the world? In what universe? The world is going to pot with woke lunacy that is destroying cultures.

[Kristatos]

Judging by his excessive use of "progressive" and the claim that SF is a "manifestation of film as art" I'd say Sandeep is having a bit of fun. If I'm wrong, we'll to each thier own I guess.

Looking at his profile, I think you're right. It reads like a parody of an excessively woke* Craig fan.

*=I hate that word, as it has come to mean "anything a boomer disapproves of", but it seems appropriate here.

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[Sandeep Jacobin]

Hi Sandeep. You're new here, so I shall be polite. This is a forum for people who were unhappy with the reboot, and with the casting of Daniel Craig as Bond. It was originally called Daniel Craig Is Not Bond, but later changed its name to Classic Bond Forum, in preparation for Craig's long overdue departure from the role. Hope that helps.

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Hi, thank you that you clarify. I find this forum from researching. I will be guest speaker in a college class. My friend is the sociology professor, speciality in cultural Marxism. In my research I find this forum and become atracted to its title “Classic Bond Forum”. I make mistake because I thought it is about how new Bond series change itself and become classic as modern day progressive film like how the movie industry is addressing social justice and modern trend in culture. I am not fighting you or this forum. I will admit I am surprised that this forum oppose Craig and the reboot. He has become popular and Skyfall make like 1 billion dollars.

[Kristatos]

My friend is the sociology professor, speciality in cultural Marxism.

OK, now I know this is a wind-up.

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[Sandeep Jacobin]

Judging by his excessive use of "progressive" and the claim that SF is a "manifestation of film as art" I'd say Sandeep is having a bit of fun. If I'm wrong, we'll to each thier own I guess.

Hi, I think you make mistake. I use term progressive because I consider myself a jacobin. But new style jacobin. My friends and I are political activists but peaceful but we believe in revolutionary spirit of jacobins. For me Skyfall, is art film. Sam Mendes direction is artistic. Dark imagery in underground passages, then you have Bond's death in the beginning and that is counterpoint to M's death in the end of film. I like how M recites Tennyson poem because it made the film literary. Then Daniel Craig's Bond reveals deep character like he is opening door to his heart to show us compelling side, admitting he has been with men. That shatters traditional notions of hero myth. It shatters lots of things, like patriarcy standards. Daneil's Bond is the new kind of hero. I am sorry if I sound like ranting. I am just trying to explain my situation. It is a movie of some complication. It is not my goal to hijack this thread and turn it into movie review debate.

[dirtybenny]

I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm positive, Sandeep is pulling our legs. Come on old boy admit it, no one sees the term classic Bond and immediately concludes it's members believe: (the) "new Bond series change itself and become classic as modern day progressive film." You over played your hand calling yourself a "peaceful" Jacobin, that's like claiming to be a nonviolent Fascist. For those who don't know, the Jacobins were the group formed by Robespierre during the French Revolution and conducted the "Reign of Terror" in the aftermath.

[Kristatos]

I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm positive, Sandeep is pulling our legs. Come on old boy admit it, no one sees the term classic Bond and immediately concludes it's members believe: (the) "new Bond series change itself and become classic as modern day progressive film." You over played your hand calling yourself a "peaceful" Jacobin, that's like claiming to be a nonviolent Fascist. For those who don't know, the Jacobins were the group formed by Robespierre during the French Revolution and conducted the "Reign of Terror" in the aftermath.

There is a magazine called Jacobin, but I have not heard the term applied to people, at least not in the modern age. The real giveaway for me was the use of the phrase "cultural Marxism", which originated in the Frankfurt School in the 1930s, but which nowadays is used almost exclusively by its opponents. Hardly anybody would describe themselves unironically as a "cultural Marxist" in 2021.

[Sandeep Jacobin]

[Hello Sandeep. Welcome to the mayhem known as Daniel Cr-egg. What does being 'progressive' have to do with a spy film, which is action and adventure, or at least it was? Blofeld a step-brother? Bond with an Oedipus complex with the former M? Male emasculation by his female superior? A mumbling hyena as Bond? A female lead half Cr-egg's age that is as exciting as watching paint dry? Cr-egg has defiled the character. How do you feel about Page being the new Bond replacement favorite? This would be utter lunacy. You do not recreate a franchise by supplanting Fleming's characters by checking off woke boxes to reflect the times. Progressive culture is enchanting to the world? In what universe? The world is going to pot with woke lunacy that is destroying cultures.

Hi, thank you that you do not doubt my intention. I have been explaining myself in other posts because I will not stand for being accused of something I am not. But I will not do that in this response to you. I will respect your view. I disagree but I will respect it. I must think about your arguments so I can reply in cogent manner.

[Sandeep Jacobin]

Looking at his profile, I think you're right. It reads like a parody of an excessively woke* Craig fan.

*=I hate that word, as it has come to mean "anything a boomer disapproves of", but it seems appropriate here.

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I think you misread my profile. I do not make any parody. I will admit I believe in social justice. You see, I am volunteer for counseling work helping of troubled people. I see how they are downtrodden. Sometimes I use examples from movies to motivate them. I see big improvements in films, how films try to address this issues. Hollywood is showing more films celebrating female empowerment. that is one example. It's also pride month and Disney and Nickelodeon have shows for this celebration. All this is good start to level playing field. But I do not want to go into angry debate. It is complicated topic. I am not here to hijack this forum. I am responding because you accuse me of something I am not. I was never rude.

[Sandeep Jacobin]

My friend is the sociology professor, speciality in cultural Marxism.

OK, now I know this is a wind-up.

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Then you are not informed about liberal arts and sociology in academic world.

[Sandeep Jacobin]

I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm positive, Sandeep is pulling our legs. Come on old boy admit it, no one sees the term classic Bond and immediately concludes it's members believe: (the) "new Bond series change itself and become classic as modern day progressive film." You over played your hand calling yourself a "peaceful" Jacobin, that's like claiming to be a nonviolent Fascist. For those who don't know, the Jacobins were the group formed by Robespierre during the French Revolution and conducted the "Reign of Terror" in the aftermath.

There is a magazine called Jacobin, but I have not heard the term applied to people, at least not in the modern age. The real giveaway for me was the use of the phrase "cultural Marxism", which originated in the Frankfurt School in the 1930s, but which nowadays is used almost exclusively by its opponents. Hardly anybody would describe themselves unironically as a "cultural Marxist" in 2021.

I subscribe to Jacobin. It's for readers that want leftist perspective on politics. For cultural Marxism, I am afraid you are not informed about culture in universities. Yes you are correct about Frankfurt School. That is its history. But as somebody that has many friends in academia, I see they call themselves cultural marxists. You are not aware that classical marxism has changed. Now back to Bond films, Sam Mendes is known socialist. Skyfall made 1 billion dollars. That tells me the world likes progressive ideas in the reboot. It will not surprise me if No Time To Die makes 1 billion dollars too.

[Sandeep Jacobin]

I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm positive, Sandeep is pulling our legs. Come on old boy admit it, no one sees the term classic Bond and immediately concludes it's members believe: (the) "new Bond series change itself and become classic as modern day progressive film." You over played your hand calling yourself a "peaceful" Jacobin, that's like claiming to be a nonviolent Fascist. For those who don't know, the Jacobins were the group formed by Robespierre during the French Revolution and conducted the "Reign of Terror" in the aftermath.

You are misreading me and I will have to address such accusations. Bond series has changed itself with the reboot. That is fact. I don't understand why you cannot see that. Bond series also has changed into modern progressive film. There is shift from sexualizing women to focus on Bond. That is one example. that is why in CR (I guess that acronym is used here) they show Bond coming out of water in swimming trunks, we do not see a woman. Old Bond movies will have that like that ancient one Doctor No. All that is obsolete. But not in new Craig Bond movies. They have women with power. We see female M taking more commanding role in Craig Bond movies and Bond relents big time. Those are kinds of things I mean about being progressive films. Now for jacobin term, you misread that too. I said I admire its revolutionary spirit. That spirit can be applied in other ways. Like discarding old approach to Bond movies, remove all those cliches, and make new Bond movies for today's perspective. That's all I'm saying. But I do not condone violence. You are correct about history of jacobins. But that is ancient history. That does not mean that me and my fellow activists will start committing reign of terror. I am afraid you are not reading carefully.

Come on old boy admit it,

You call me old boy? You do age discrimination to me? That is foul conduct. Why you bring up age in first place? I am not old man. I am of millennial generation and I am replying because I will not stand for insults or be called something I am not. You already accuse me of fraud and liar and now you insult with age discrimination. Shame on you!