Is it possible for you to enjoy Bond 22 and/or Daniel Craig?

[The Sweeney]

Here is a serious question for you all, and intelligent responses only please.

Is there anything at all that that may make you enjoy Bond 22, regardless of Craig playing Bond? Or is there anything that Craig may do in his performance to suddenly make you accept him more as Bond?

I really disliked Brosnan's reign, but I always lived in hope that his next movie would be better, but it appears many of you on here are not looking for anything to win you over with the next film. Is this true? Are you all lost causes now for the next few years, or could some of you be won over if certain elements did change, while Craig remains as Bond?

It appears as though some of you hated CR's direction more, while others disliked Craig's uncoothness in the role. If some of these elements were to change in 22, could you be one of the few here that may suddenly enjoy Bond 22?

Like I said, serious replies only please...

[stockslivevan]

Well I certainly enjoy OHMSS despite a weak leading actor and there are a lot of people who feel the same way. So it wouldn't be a stretch to think someone may enjoy a Craig Bond film despite not liking the actor for the role.

That's my opinion of course.

[ragtime]

I thought this here forum was only for people who hate Craig!!!!!!!!!!


I like him. And CR was better than Die Another Day wasn't it?
Or do people here like DAD more

I will enjoy Bond numero 22, if they shorten the running time a little. Everything else about CR rocks my rocks off.

[james stock]

Here is a serious question for you all, and intelligent responses only please.

Is there anything at all that that may make you enjoy Bond 22, regardless of Craig playing Bond? Or is there anything that Craig may do in his performance to suddenly make you accept him more as Bond?

I really disliked Brosnan's reign, but I always lived in hope that his next movie would be better, but it appears many of you on here are not looking for anything to win you over with the next film. Is this true? Are you all lost causes now for the next few years, or could some of you be won over if certain elements did change, while Craig remains as Bond?

It appears as though some of you hated CR's direction more, while others disliked Craig's uncoothness in the role. If some of these elements were to change in 22, could you be one of the few here that may suddenly enjoy Bond 22?

Like I said, serious replies only please...

It greatly depends on if they have a little more of the Bond style, i have said before that could not bring myself to watch it after the tepid royale maybe i will change my mind and cave in when it comes out. I will never see Craig as Bond though Sweeney, i still watch Dr Who even though i dont like David Tennents Dr, but after all it's still Dr Who. So i think it has to be a lot more Bondian for me i guess. Good Post!

[james stock]

I thought this here forum was only for people who hate Craig!!!!!!!!!!


I like him. And CR was better than Die Another Day wasn't it?
Or do people here like DAD more

I will enjoy Bond numero 22, if they shorten the running time a little. Everything else about CR rocks my rocks off.

i think it depends on what you want from a Bond film Ragtime. The problem i had with Royale was that it descarded the previous 20 movies and created a new completly different James Bond that is neither the Book version as many claim or the cinematic version. I felt that the film was dull and Craig was wooden and miscast in the part but that just my opinion. Die another Day is an easy target despite its many faults i can return to film and enjoy it again which is not case with royale. Welcome To the forum Ragtime! Good Post!

[james stock]

I thought this here forum was only for people who hate Craig!!!!!!!!!!


I like him. And CR was better than Die Another Day wasn't it?
Or do people here like DAD more

I will enjoy Bond numero 22, if they shorten the running time a little. Everything else about CR rocks my rocks off.

I think any Bond fan is welcome on this forum even if many people here dislike Craig as Bond contary opinions are very welcome.

[ragtime]

I thought this here forum was only for people who hate Craig!!!!!!!!!!


I like him. And CR was better than Die Another Day wasn't it?
Or do people here like DAD more

I will enjoy Bond numero 22, if they shorten the running time a little. Everything else about CR rocks my rocks off.

i think it depends on what you want from a Bond film Ragtime. The problem i had with Royale was that it descarded the previous 20 movies and created a new completly different James Bond that is neither the Book version as many claim or the cinematic version. I felt that the film was dull and Craig was wooden and miscast in the part but that just my opinion. Die another Day is an easy target despite its many faults i can return to film and enjoy it again which is not case with royale. Welcome To the forum Ragtime! Good Post!

Thank you. Its an interesting forum, and I thank you for your open minded opinions....not what I was expecting from this site.
I was worried everyone would be more like the top man around here.

[The Sweeney]

I thought this here forum was only for people who hate Craig!!!!!!!!!!

Not at all. It's an open forum for debating, despite the title of the forum itself.

[Skywalker]

I think my views are pretty much covered here http://www.alternative007.co.uk/63.htm

[Kristatos]

I hope that I will enjoy Bond 22 more than CR. Two things give me that hope:

1) The fact that it will be the second film in the New Bond series means that it shouldn't suffer from "pilotitis" - the need to establish the fact that this is a reboot and a different Bond from the previous 20 films gave CR something of the feel of a pilot film for a new series. Now that is out of the way, Bond 22 can get on with just telling the story.

2) It is an original story, and so won't be hamstrung by the need to adapt what is arguably Ian Fleming's least cinematic novel. I don't want to diss Fleming, but he wrote a novel, not a movie treatment. CR was two films in one - an adaptation of Fleming's slender story bulked up by original material. To me, it was in the latter parts that the film came to life, such as the free-running and Miami Airport scenes, while it got bogged down in the second half, when it was tied to the book.

As to whether I'll be used to the idea of Craig as Bond, only time will tell.

[007]

My number one beef with Craig is that he doesn't look like Bond to me. Just my personal tastes. I see actors sometimes and think 'He looks like he could be a good Bond, he has the right look'. To me Craig is pretty much the opposite of what Bond should look like.

Moving on from looks, I hated the way they turned Bond into a Mondeo driving SAS nutcase and the young Bond reboot aspect was laughable with Daniel Craig.

So, to answer the question, I'm indifferent to Bond 22 and looking forward to the next Bond actor.

[ragtime]

I dont know how a bond fan can ever not look forward to a new bond film, and if Craig isnt your thing, then why stay a bond fan?

Its cool tho, cuz i hate dalton. He tried to act bond as if he was hamlet!!!

[Kristatos]

Its cool tho, cuz i hate dalton. He tried to act bond as if he was hamlet!!!

Yes, curse him for putting 110% into his performance.

Seriously, though, at least he didn't try to change the character of the Bond films. Craig not only wants Bond to be Hamlet, he wants Bond films to be turned into Shakespearian dramas.

[ragtime]

Yea the extra 10% was all that eye swivelling and pouting. Thought I wuz watching a silent movie with Douglas Fairbanks,lol.

Yea, Dalton is a stage actor, not a film actor. NOOOOOO charismaaa.

Craig has a big film career, Dalton plays support in mediocre films, or stars in crap films, or dresses up in roger rabbit films.

[The Sweeney]

My number one beef with Craig is that he doesn't look like Bond to me. Just my personal tastes. I see actors sometimes and think 'He looks like he could be a good Bond, he has the right look'. To me Craig is pretty much the opposite of what Bond should look like.

Moving on from looks, I hated the way they turned Bond into a Mondeo driving SAS nutcase and the young Bond reboot aspect was laughable with Daniel Craig.

So, to answer the question, I'm indifferent to Bond 22 and looking forward to the next Bond actor.

You've answered your thoughts on Craig himself, but what about Bond 22? Is there any aspects of the direction, storyline, etc. that may interest you at all if they changed from how they were in CR? Obviously the reboot won't be so heavily emphasised now (if it ever was), and as Kristatos said in his post, there will be no constraints of a novel with 22.

[james stock]

My number one beef with Craig is that he doesn't look like Bond to me. Just my personal tastes. I see actors sometimes and think 'He looks like he could be a good Bond, he has the right look'. To me Craig is pretty much the opposite of what Bond should look like.

Moving on from looks, I hated the way they turned Bond into a Mondeo driving SAS nutcase and the young Bond reboot aspect was laughable with Daniel Craig.

So, to answer the question, I'm indifferent to Bond 22 and looking forward to the next Bond actor.

You've answered your thoughts on Craig himself, but what about Bond 22? Is there any aspects of the direction, storyline, etc. that may interest you at all if they changed from how they were in CR? Obviously the reboot won't be so heavily emphasised now (if it ever was), and as Kristatos said in his post, there will be no constraints of a novel with 22.

I am not sure where it will go, perhaps with a criminal organisation behind it been done before though with the specture plots of the classics to be honest i cant get excited about it, maybe closer to the time when footage is availible i could make a decison about it.

[English Agent]

I get the impression here after reading some of the posts, that some members are basing their dislike of the current Bond franchise on
DC only and this is making them give a negative impression on the films.
Like most things i have disliked various actors initially in tv series or films when there has been a change, but generally most people after a while accept the current actor when they have seen more material that he/she
has made in the relevant role.
I mean CR has its faults, but no way is it the turkey that some people here make it out to be.

EA

[james stock]

I get the impression here after reading some of the posts, that some members are basing their dislike of the current Bond franchise on
DC only and this is making them give a negative impression on the films.
Like most things i have disliked various actors initially in tv series or films when there has been a change, but generally most people after a while accept the current actor when they have seen more material that he/she
has made in the relevant role.
I mean CR has its faults, but no way is it the turkey that some people here make it out to be.

EA

In my case Arthur i went into Royale with an open mind and with no preconcieved ideas on DC, i had only seen him in one thing Tomb Raider which he was terrible in but that was a bad film and even competent actors like Jon Voight were bad in it too. I came out of the film underwelmed even my wife said it one of the worst films not just Bond movies she had seen that year. It was boring, Bland and devoid of energy. Depressed me no end

[English Agent]

Ok 'Jmes Stock' i understand your viewpoint...........but can you tell me what type of Bond films in the past you liked.

Me personally i liked the macho Connery in TB, also i though OHMSS was
a very good film, plus i liked the style of humour in LALD.

[007]

All through the casting process I didn't take Daniel Craig seriously as a candidate. I presumed he'd been spoken to about playing Le Chiffre and someone in the press had got their wires crossed. When it became clear he was not only a candidate but the favoured candidate I was desperate for them to cast anyone else. Cavill, O'Lachlan, Barbara Broccoli's Postman. Why? Because 1) Daniel Craig looks like any number of unremarkable everyday people I see in the street on a daily basis (surely the opposite of Bond, James Bond, a fantasy figure and established handsome devil) and 2) I knew exactly how Craig would play Bond. He'd underplay it mostly, purse his lips, talk in that affected I'm an actor luvvie fake voice, and overact violently in at least one scene. I find him bland, uncharismatic, humourless and faintly creepy. When he smiles his entire face contorts into one gigantic wrinkle. I was watching the news when they unveiled him and I was absolutely gutted when they confirmed it was Craig (about an hour before the conference if I recall because his Mum blabbed to the press). Right up until that moment I had my fingers crossed that Clive Owen or Hugh Jackman or James Purefoy or anyone else would walk out and the Craig thing would be revealed as a smokescreen or a nightmare I was having after eating too much cheese. It was a total anti-climax for me and for the first time ever I had little interest in the new Bond film. I stopped posting on Bond forums when the PR bulls**t kicked into gear, now alienated from my favourite nerdy interest. When the film came out I looked at the reviews and thought to myself 'Well, Craig might not be my cup of tea but it looks like they've made a great film'. When I actually watched Casino Royale I was amazed at how overrated the film was. Overlong, boring, dialogue that made me wince. Craig was like the invisible man to me in that film. Just blah. Is James Bond in this film? Where?

So, my interest in Bond 22 is very low. Recent interviews with Paul Haggis and pictures of a load of horses being maimed have hardly wetted my appetite. Even if they made Goldfinger with Daniel Craig I'd walk out wishing another actor was playing Bond. My favourite Bond actor was always the bloke playing him in the film I was watching at the time. Daniel Craig has blown that right out of the water and I never, ever thought that would happen.