Skyfall vs. Skyfall the Unofficial Novelization

[Napoleon Solo]

I periodically check out other James Bond message boards. One of them has a spoiler thread where people are speculating on aspects of the movie based on the new trailers and other clues.

Amusingly, two such speculations, by coincidence, are contained in the unofficial novelization elsewhere on this board: 1) the notion that M was involved in an operation that left both Bond and Silva orphans 2) that Kindcaid might be Bond's real father. The latter is particularly amusing to me because that was a throwaway gag I hadn't even thought of until I was in the middle of writing that chapter. But it would explain why the Andrew Bond of the unofficiali novelization wasn't real close to his son.

If either actually shows up in the movie, I'll be more amused.

[Blowfeld]

If it shows up in the movie it will be incredibly scary It was getting weird, I was consciously trying to use what we knew from spoilers then I'd jump off the deep end, later in the next round of spoilers it'd seem none too far fetched.

Got to say how incredibly fun the novelization project was

[Napoleon Solo]

This is sort of related. A few weeks ago, I got into a discussion where somebody on Twitter said they hoped the soundtrack wouldn't have titles that were spoilers. I replied that the Bond sountracks actually have a history of doing just that (Death of Grant, Death of Goldfinger, Death of Fiona). So I came up with a Skyfall soundtrack list of nothing but spoilers. I mostly was using the unofficial Skyfall novelization (but not entirely). So here's that list:

1. TITLE SONG: "Nothing Is What It Appears," music by Thomas Newman, lyrics by Don Black, performed by Adele
2. Bond Gets Shot, Decides to Play Dead
3. Bond Drinks a Heineken (R) While Pondering His Next Move
4. M and Kincaid Talk About Their Long-Ago Affair
5. Bond Talks to M About His Parents
5. Bond Finds Out He's Adopted
6. Kincaid Tells Bond, "I'm Your Daddy, Laddie."
7. Silva Attacks Skyfall Manor
8. Kincaid Trips While Running And Breaks His Neck
9. Bond Plays Dead and Fools Silva
10. Death of Silva
11. Death of M
12. Bond and Eve Scatter M's Ashes From London Rooftop
13. Bond Meets New M
14. Bond Assigned to Check Out Crab Key
15. END TITLE SONG: "Everything in This Movie Was My Idea," music, lyrics and performed by Sam Mendes

[Kristatos]

If it shows up in the movie it will be incredibly scary

Not really, it will just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

[Blowfeld]

If it shows up in the movie it will be incredibly scary

Not really, it will just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

Probably right. I hope they do not try to tie Daniel's time to prequels to Dr No. It would be the case of another set of bad prequels in that case, these movies were droll enough as a standalone reboot. Trying to directly say 'guess what this is the whole Bond timeline as detected by EON' I'd be ready for them to completely fold.

[Kristatos]

If it shows up in the movie it will be incredibly scary

Not really, it will just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

Probably right. I hope they do not try to tie Daniel's time to prequels to Dr No.

I hope they do. What better way to signal the end of the Craig nightmare?

[Dr. No]

Fine shut the door on Craig and get back to Connery.

[The Saint 007]

Fine shut the door on Craig and get back to Connery.

It seems that the producers are having too much fun with reinventing the series, so who knows how long we'll have to wait before we can get classic Bond back again.

[Omega]

A little longer by the looks of it.

[katied]

EON are the textbook definition of "janky":

[Napoleon Solo]

This Skyfall spot ran during the Emmys:



Around the 20-second mark, Craig/Bond appears to be entering classic M's office.

A sign that Skyfall The Unofficial Novelization is on the mark? (Probably not, but....)

[Blowfeld]

Kind of mind blowing to see it, I'd imagine this is what screen writers feel the first time they see their work preformed, however it's like Nick said

just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

[Napoleon Solo]

Kind of mind blowing to see it, I'd imagine this is what screen writers feel the first time they see their work preformed, however it's like Nick said

just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

Indeed. Still, if it turns out Silva and Bond were orphaned by the same operation, you watch and see how this will be praised as an original notion, with lots of depth.

[The Saint 007]

Kind of mind blowing to see it, I'd imagine this is what screen writers feel the first time they see their work preformed, however it's like Nick said

just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

Indeed. Still, if it turns out Silva and Bond were orphaned by the same operation, you watch and see how this will be praised as an original notion, with lots of depth.

And Skyfall will probably be placed right up with the highly overrated Casino Royale as one of the best Bond films ever.

[FormerBondFan]

Kind of mind blowing to see it, I'd imagine this is what screen writers feel the first time they see their work preformed, however it's like Nick said

just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

Indeed. Still, if it turns out Silva and Bond were orphaned by the same operation, you watch and see how this will be praised as an original notion, with lots of depth.

And Skyfall will probably be placed right up with the highly overrated Casino Royale as one of the best Bond films ever.

You might as well have the weirdos take over as Bond.

[oscartheman]

Kind of mind blowing to see it, I'd imagine this is what screen writers feel the first time they see their work preformed, however it's like Nick said

just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

Indeed. Still, if it turns out Silva and Bond were orphaned by the same operation, you watch and see how this will be praised as an original notion, with lots of depth.

And Skyfall will probably be placed right up with the highly overrated Casino Royale as one of the best Bond films ever.

Probably.The first with Craig was crap some how it was the best since OHMSS & LTK incidentally two of the crappiest movies in the history of Bond.Different was deemed better so a short actor who couldn't act like Bond was nuanced and insightful when all it was is a crap actor out of his depth.LTK and OHMSS were bad movies fans didn't like somehow they were the benchmarks.WTF!They doubled the crap content in QOS and thankfully nobody liked it.Were up for a triple scoop somehow I get the feeling they'll eat it up like ice cream on a summer day.Bond should never talk about his parents,killing M is dumb, Q and Moneyp shouldn't have a origin stories this isn't the damned X-men some people just show up for work d**n it!I don't need origin story for how they get out of bed in the morning like the powers that be feel we need for damned James Bond.Bond was a hero not the character sturdy of one fucked up orphan.

[The Saint 007]

Kind of mind blowing to see it, I'd imagine this is what screen writers feel the first time they see their work preformed, however it's like Nick said

just show how predictable the "surprises" were.

Indeed. Still, if it turns out Silva and Bond were orphaned by the same operation, you watch and see how this will be praised as an original notion, with lots of depth.

And Skyfall will probably be placed right up with the highly overrated Casino Royale as one of the best Bond films ever.

Probably.The first with Craig was crap some how it was the best since OHMSS & LTK incidentally two of the crappiest movies in the history of Bond.Different was deemed better so a short actor who couldn't act like Bond was nuanced and insightful when all it was is a crap actor out of his depth.LTK and OHMSS were bad movies fans didn't like somehow they were the benchmarks.WTF!They doubled the crap content in QOS and thankfully nobody liked it.Were up for a triple scoop somehow I get the feeling they'll eat it up like ice cream on a summer day.Bond should never talk about his parents,killing M is dumb, Q and Moneyp shouldn't have a origin stories this isn't the damned X-men some people just show up for work d**n it!I don't need origin story for how they get out of bed in the morning like the powers that be feel we need for damned James Bond.Bond was a hero not the character sturdy of one fucked up orphan.

Casino Royale is so overrated, that it instantly made Craig the so-called "Best Bond since Sean Connery", and just somehow gave him the right to stay in the role of Bond for eternity. Give me a break, it wasn't that great. To me, it was two and a half hours of pointless chatter, a few generic action scenes, a lot of poker playing, and a lame love story that makes Jaws and Dolly falling in love in Moonraker seem more believable. And for that Craig gets placed on a pedestal, and receives tons of praise and pampering? These Craig Bond films are nothing more than espionage soap operas, that focus way too much on boring character exploration. Do they think that the average person really cares about all these origin stories, and other nerdy details? I'm a Bond fanatic and I don't even care about it. While some people see Craig's Bond films as ingenious artistic creativity, all I see is a parody of a once very cool and charismatic spy.

On the old A View To A Kill posters, there was a tag line that says 'Has James Bond Finally Met His Match?' After several years later, I can say that he certainly has met his match... The incompetent film producers.

[Napoleon Solo]

Another possibility between the unofficial novelization and the actual movie.

A still is out, showing Craig/Bond with his Turkish girlfriend after he's decided not to return to the Secret Service:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... 2BHastings

Yes, he's nursing a Heineken (R). Could part of the plot be that Bond has renounced vodka martinis while staying away from the Secret Service? In the novelization, of course, Bond turns to drinking Heineken (R) after quitting the service to become a chicken farmer.

[Napoleon Solo]

A friend sent me the Variety review. It gives away an element of the ending. It sounds like ...



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That Bond will "loop back" to Dr. No like the Unofficiial Novelization. Except, of course, he won't morph into a 31-year-old Sean Connery as in the unofficial novelization.

I can't take credit for the idea. I saw somebody speculate something to that effect on a message board (I think it was Commander Bond). I thought that was ridiculous. Then, Mendes said something on one of those "videoblogs" on the official 007.com Web site. I forget the exact quote, but I felt it was a virtual confirmation. Based on the Variety review, I think it will be pretty close to that.

[Kristatos]

A friend sent me the Variety review. It gives away an element of the ending. It sounds like ...

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That Bond will "loop back" to Dr. No like the Unofficiial Novelization. Except, of course, he won't morph into a 31-year-old Sean Connery as in the unofficial novelization.

I can't take credit for the idea. I saw somebody speculate something to that effect on a message board (I think it was Commander Bond).

I did the same thing in my Risico fanfic treatment.