Thomas Newman to do the score for Skyfall.

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The Sweeney wrote: Sounds more like Mendes decision. He has worked with Newman on all but one of his movies - http://www.filmnav.co.uk/2012/01/09/tho ... e-skyfall/
Yep, looks like I was wrong. From Arnold's Twitter feed:
I've known since June....Sam and I talked about it and I said I am very much of the opinion that a director should have who they want
And fully expected Tom to be doing the film.Couldnt tweet about it as contracts weren't finalised until recently...but it's all very good
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The only Newman scores I remember are the ones for American Beauty and Wall-E, neither of which is very Bondian. I'll have to watch Three Kings again, since that is the only film of his that can really be called an action movie. Incidentally, a guy who used to attend the same church as me when I lived on Hilton Head Island worked on that film as a consultant. His name is Jack Shaheen and he is a university professor with particular expertise in Middle Eastern culture. He was brought in to ensure that the portrayal of the Arabs in the film was accurate, and not the usual Team America-style "durka durka" stereotypes.
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Re: Thomas Newman to do the score for Skyfall.

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Kristatos wrote:
The Sweeney wrote: Sounds more like Mendes decision. He has worked with Newman on all but one of his movies - http://www.filmnav.co.uk/2012/01/09/tho ... e-skyfall/
Yep, looks like I was wrong. From Arnold's Twitter feed:
I've known since June....Sam and I talked about it and I said I am very much of the opinion that a director should have who they want
And fully expected Tom to be doing the film.Couldnt tweet about it as contracts weren't finalised until recently...but it's all very good
I'm looking forward to watching Skyfall as a fan.first time in 14 years! Still working with Eon on 50th anniversary stuff..exciting
The only Newman scores I remember are the ones for American Beauty and Wall-E, neither of which is very Bondian. I'll have to watch Three Kings again, since that is the only film of his that can really be called an action movie. Incidentally, a guy who used to attend the same church as me when I lived on Hilton Head Island worked on that film as a consultant. His name is Jack Shaheen and he is a university professor with particular expertise in Middle Eastern culture. He was brought in to ensure that the portrayal of the Arabs in the film was accurate, and not the usual Team America-style "durka durka" stereotypes.
The guy for 3 Kings or is he on Spyfial too?

I didn't like 3 Kings it wasn't a good partially of armed forces, especially the reservists.

I do think it was kind of lame the Arnold was acting like he was coming back and he knew damned well he was not. ...Or I am think of his statements out of order? Did he make any statements since June?
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Omega wrote: The guy for 3 Kings or is he on Spyfial too?

I didn't like 3 Kings it wasn't a good partially of armed forces, especially the reservists.

I do think it was kind of lame the Arnold was acting like he was coming back and he knew damned well he was not. ...Or I am think of his statements out of order? Did he make any statements since June?
Jack Shaheen isn't working on Spyfail as far as I know. Arnold did tweet a couple of times to say that his involvement with Spyfail had "not been confirmed". He obviously didn't want to come right out and say that Newman was scoring the film until the official announcement had been made.
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Skyfall will be QOS 2, as the producers seem to be once again handing all control over to the Director, letting him had out jobs to his mates.
This one may end up sucking more than a Porn actress going for the money shot. :lol:
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I just double checked and it seems that Newman was not the main composer on Three Kings, he just had a couple of his pieces used on the soundtrack. So he has never really done an action movie before, his scores tend to be for films like The Shawshank Redemption. Hard to imagine what a Bond score by him will be like.
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Kristatos wrote:I just double checked and it seems that Newman was not the main composer on Three Kings, he just had a couple of his pieces used on the soundtrack. So he has never really done an action movie before, his scores tend to be for films like The Shawshank Redemption. Hard to imagine what a Bond score by him will be like.
I know Shawshank it is one of my favorite films although not one I watch often, I can't place the sound track. Maybe its good thing what some composers strive for. I just do not think this is a good move at this point. :? Bond should be memorable.
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Dr. No wrote:Bond should be memorable.
But not with Bond 23: Nothing Special.
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Dr. No wrote:
Kristatos wrote:I just double checked and it seems that Newman was not the main composer on Three Kings, he just had a couple of his pieces used on the soundtrack. So he has never really done an action movie before, his scores tend to be for films like The Shawshank Redemption. Hard to imagine what a Bond score by him will be like.
I know Shawshank it is one of my favorite films although not one I watch often, I can't place the sound track. Maybe its good thing what some composers strive for. I just do not think this is a good move at this point. :? Bond should be memorable.
Shawshank is a great film, and superb score, particularly the end theme when Freeman finally gets to the beach.

Newman usually does sweeping slow scores, so it is going to be interesting to see how he adapts to action music. Then again, Barry was more famous for his majesticall sweeping too, yet had no problem when it came to action scores.

I am actually not too bothered that Arnold is not doing this one. It will be a change to see someone else take over the reigns for a movie. I felt sometimes Arnold's music was too techno in places, maybe he can learn a few pointers from Newman, who knows.

Sounds like Mendes is getting artistic control over the movie anyway, which can't be a bad thing. The less fiddling from Babs and Mickey, the better....... :lol:
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Blowfeld wrote:FBF I love you like a brother but how is this bad for us? rise or fall, good or bad we have on position, it wouldn't matter if John Williams would score this movie. Or If it were Directed by James Cameron and called Bondatar.
Newman was nominated by the Oscars 10 times, and if he gets one for Bond 23, this will make us like a bunch of losers. If you don't understand, BJ will tell you. And again, you should be glad neither CR nor QOS got any Oscar nominations, not even in the technical category. FYEO was the last Bond to get nominated by Oscars, and it should be kept that way.....until EON's EVIL Empire crumpled in ruins (with Bond 23 crash and burn to ground) just like Sidious' Empire did in the ROTJ. And there's no ROTJ victory for us if Bond 23 gets even a single Oscar nomination whether it's major category or technical. As Mace Windu said, I sense a plot to destroy us.
The force is strong with this one.... :fight:
Actually FBF has a point. This film is loaded with Oscar winners and nominated crew - we've got the most-nominated without-winning cinematographer, and the most-nominated without-winning composer in the business.

With an Oscar-winning director, Oscar-winning production designer, two-time nominee editor, Oscar-winning villain, two time nominee Fiennes, five time nominee Finney, winner Dench...

I can see an Oscar nomination on the horizon. FBF get your lightsaber ready..... :P
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The Sweeney wrote:
Dr. No wrote:
Kristatos wrote:I just double checked and it seems that Newman was not the main composer on Three Kings, he just had a couple of his pieces used on the soundtrack. So he has never really done an action movie before, his scores tend to be for films like The Shawshank Redemption. Hard to imagine what a Bond score by him will be like.
I know Shawshank it is one of my favorite films although not one I watch often, I can't place the sound track. Maybe its good thing what some composers strive for. I just do not think this is a good move at this point. :? Bond should be memorable.
Shawshank is a great film, and superb score, particularly the end theme when Freeman finally gets to the beach.

Newman usually does sweeping slow scores, so it is going to be interesting to see how he adapts to action music. Then again, Barry was more famous for his majesticall sweeping too, yet had no problem when it came to action scores.

I am actually not too bothered that Arnold is not doing this one. It will be a change to see someone else take over the reigns for a movie. I felt sometimes Arnold's music was too techno in places, maybe he can learn a few pointers from Newman, who knows.

Sounds like Mendes is getting artistic control over the movie anyway, which can't be a bad thing. The less fiddling from Babs and Mickey, the better....... :lol:
Mate this is what people though with the last art house Bond movie was being made. Everyone hoped they had learned a lesson from Quark, however I'm seeing a few warning signs already. Might as well rename it nominate me.

The Ghost Writer should have received some sort of nod, its genera pretty much assured it wouldn't. Brozza was a powerhouse in that film. A films genre can hurt it greatly. Babs appears willing to let her Boy Lollipop try to make Bond so socking and uncomfortable from what it had been for 50 years it will get the attention of her peers and win her some recognition.

The danger of making an Oscar bait film is they can press it too hard. Their biggest problem is how on earth can anyone stop Craig from going "Full Retard" blowing all of Mende's Oscar work strait to hell. :twisted:
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Problem with the kind of film Mendes free hand to make is the audience has expectations of what a Bond Film should be, including the score. No matter what they say he is looking to "challenge' the audience with a drastic shift is how Bond stories have been traditionally told. A series running on fumes shouldn't try so hard to stall the engine.

The other result of all this rare air is it practically guarantees Craig is gone after this, no way he will ever get this much control or this much"talent" again. Might as well go out on film he undoubtedly will think is his best. Look at it this why they are throwing everything including the kitchen sink at this one, what are the chances of this happening again in Craig's lifetime.
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Full out is correct Q. They are surrounding DC with Hollywood's supposed cream and all he will do is curdle it sour :!:
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The Sweeney wrote: Shawshank is a great film, and superb score, particularly the end theme when Freeman finally gets to the beach.

Newman usually does sweeping slow scores, so it is going to be interesting to see how he adapts to action music. Then again, Barry was more famous for his majesticall sweeping too, yet had no problem when it came to action scores.

I am actually not too bothered that Arnold is not doing this one. It will be a change to see someone else take over the reigns for a movie. I felt sometimes Arnold's music was too techno in places, maybe he can learn a few pointers from Newman, who knows.

Sounds like Mendes is getting artistic control over the movie anyway, which can't be a bad thing. The less fiddling from Babs and Mickey, the better....... :lol:
You are right it is a great film, I have had the opportunity to watch it in a number of years so the music form it is not fresh in my mind. My point isn't that this man is not talented, I'm sure he is. But I've seen WallE and a few others of him movies and the sound track didn't make an impression. This may be because he is so good and the music complemented the story so well it wasn't a distraction or whatever. But Bond should be like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Lord of the rings, Laurence of Arabia, where you come out humming a tune from it.
Arnold I feel did his best to keep this up, I understand the directors wanted his choice but I am not so sure it was his choice to make. He stepped in to a established franchise with a established sound.The guys directing Empire strikes back and return of the jedi didn't get their choice of a lot of things. They didn't call John Williams up to tell his to sit this one out, or decide lightsabers are silly or need to be Easter pastels.

COme hell or high water Bond had a pretty good sound with Aronld.
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The Sweeney wrote: Shawshank is a great film, and superb score, particularly the end theme when Freeman finally gets to the beach.

Newman usually does sweeping slow scores, so it is going to be interesting to see how he adapts to action music. Then again, Barry was more famous for his majesticall sweeping too, yet had no problem when it came to action scores.

I am actually not too bothered that Arnold is not doing this one. It will be a change to see someone else take over the reigns for a movie. I felt sometimes Arnold's music was too techno in places, maybe he can learn a few pointers from Newman, who knows.

Sounds like Mendes is getting artistic control over the movie anyway, which can't be a bad thing. The less fiddling from Babs and Mickey, the better....... :lol:
You are right it is a great film, I have not had the opportunity to watch it in a number of years so the music form it is not fresh in my mind. My point isn't that this man is not talented, I'm sure he is. But I've seen WallE and a few others of him movies and the sound track didn't make an impression. This may be because he is so good and the music complemented the story so well it wasn't a distraction or whatever. But Bond should be like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Lord of the rings, Laurence of Arabia, where you come out humming a tune from it.
Arnold I feel did his best to keep this up, I understand the directors wanted his choice but I am not so sure it was his choice to make. He stepped in to a established franchise with a established sound.The guys directing Empire strikes back and return of the jedi didn't get their choice of a lot of things. They didn't call John Williams up to tell his to sit this one out, or decide lightsabers are silly or need to be Easter pastels.

COme hell or high water Bond had a pretty good sound with Arnold.
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