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Total Film gave it 5 stars (they gave QoS 3) - http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/skyfall

It all adds up to the 007 adventure we’ve been waiting for: a flawlessly assembled thrill ride with a cast to die for and a nakedly emotional undertow. Happy birthday, Mr Bond.
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Omega wrote:Early reviews leaked at this point are nearly always good. They got upset at the Dragon Tattoo girl reviews out early and those were good.

sniffy one in the Guardian?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/oct ... sfeed=true

There was a (I think) Telegraph review where they said it didn't feel much like a Bond film but gave it 4 out of 5 anyway. A lot of the reviews seem to suggest they've been more inspired by Nolan and the Dark Knight trilogy than Jason Bourne this time.
Out of all the reviews released today, The Guardian is the only one with any hints of negativity, but they still find praise in the film, and still give it 3 stars - hardly a damning, slating review.

Another positive one just emerged - http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/ ... t-20121012

And another - http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2012/10/film-review-skyfall/

Another 5 star review - http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/10/m ... -2012.html

And another - http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/ ... nd-trailer

And there's more - http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/movies/ ... view/30408

Another 5 star, not sure if it already been posted - http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie- ... 51356.html

Even Chris Tookey loves it - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... ds-newsxml

Best Bond ever - http://www.sabotagetimes.com/tv-film/sk ... ever-been/

Skyfall is the smartest Bond film for many years - http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/39389 ... bardem.htm
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And so the insanity begins...

Really not surprised about the positive reviews. Most people will praise Craig for what a superb Bond he is, no matter what the quality of the film is like. Some critics even were positive about Quantum Of Solace, which I and many others consider to be the worst film in the series. This is why I don't take what the critics say seriously. I make judgments based on my own feelings, and I don't care for Craig or the current direction whatsoever.

They've went from Bourne to Batman. Why can't they just make a proper classic Bond film? I'm so sick of all the butchered reinventing of everything. I got into the Bond series because of the various qualities and characteristics it had, and because it was just so different and more fun than most other spy movies. If I really want to watch Batman, Bourne or some other realistic spy thriller, than I will just go and do that.

Anyway, I won't be going to the theater see Skyfall. I'm going to do what I did with the first two Craig Bonds, stay home and watch a Dalton Bond film. If I'm going to watch a more serious Bond film, then I'm going to watch one that's done properly.
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QoS didn't receive this many positive reviews on release, and I don't even think CR did either. There were at least 1 or 2 damning reviews when CR first previewed, and Graham Rye absolutely slated QoS.

Judging from this overwhelming positive response, I think a truly great film may have been made. This kind of a response I've not seen since TDK.
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James wrote:
Omega wrote:Early reviews leaked at this point are nearly always good. They got upset at the Dragon Tattoo girl reviews out early and those were good.

sniffy one in the Guardian?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/oct ... sfeed=true

There was a (I think) Telegraph review where they said it didn't feel much like a Bond film but gave it 4 out of 5 anyway. A lot of the reviews seem to suggest they've been more inspired by Nolan and the Dark Knight trilogy than Jason Bourne this time.
I really hate this crap when critics, it's not bond but it deserves a high score (just like the crappy resident evil games today that aren't re but hey because of it's name let's give it a high score and not stand up and do the right d**n thing, bunch of cowards some of these critics, if you hate it why in the name of god and all that's sacred give this a high score).

Give ia 1 or a 2 atleast, people like this are the reason this rubbish we're sadly more content to stay with keeps going, where's the standards anymore, these people don't deserve to be called critics and if I ran that business after seeing this I'd have them out of their jobs in an instant, if you can't even do your job but cave in because of the name then get lost, if it doesn't feel like the series it should and you give it a highscore then in My mind you're a beeping joke.

I have nothing but contempt for this franchise and Barbera broccoli today, if I had money and My way I'd make a brillaint spy film and shove it right in her face, if I want to see a blonde guy going around killing stuff and being cool I'll watch Jack Bauer in 24 with the Brillaint Keither Sutherland, I don't want to see some arrrrghhhhhh :cuss: :cuss: (getting out of this forum for a while, beep you eon).
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shaken not stirred wrote:
James wrote:
Omega wrote:Early reviews leaked at this point are nearly always good. They got upset at the Dragon Tattoo girl reviews out early and those were good.

sniffy one in the Guardian?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/oct ... sfeed=true

There was a (I think) Telegraph review where they said it didn't feel much like a Bond film but gave it 4 out of 5 anyway. A lot of the reviews seem to suggest they've been more inspired by Nolan and the Dark Knight trilogy than Jason Bourne this time.
I really hate this crap when critics, it's not bond but it deserves a high score (just like the crappy resident evil games today that aren't re but hey because of it's name let's give it a high score and not stand up and do the right d**n thing, bunch of cowards some of these critics, if you hate it why in the name of god and all that's sacred give this a high score).

Give ia 1 or a 2 atleast, people like this are the reason this rubbish we're sadly more content to stay with keeps going, where's the standards anymore, these people don't deserve to be called critics and if I ran that business after seeing this I'd have them out of their jobs in an instant, if you can't even do your job but cave in because of the name then get lost, if it doesn't feel like the series it should and you give it a highscore then in My mind you're a beeping joke.
Some critics love to hate something if the overwhelming majority say otherwise, so they make a name for themselves. What The Guardian review tells me is that the critic actually loved the film, but tried to distance himself from the masses by hinting at a few negative points, and being more different by bringing this down to 3 stars, rather than give it 4 or 5.

If he wanted to really give this 1 star, trust me he would have done. It's what gives critics a hard on - being different.
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The Sweeney wrote:I said all along Skyfall will be the biggest Bond film in years, helped along by Olympics, Bond 50, Adele and positive reviews.
Right now the positive reviews are literally overwhelming from what I've read online. Far more positive than even CR.

Adele will probably hit the No. 1 spot too next week (if not this week) for the first time in Bond history.

Sorry guys, but Craig is here to stay. FBF, time to send in your wierdos..... :lol:
At least for two more films. He finally said as much directly in an interview this week.
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Napoleon Solo wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:I said all along Skyfall will be the biggest Bond film in years, helped along by Olympics, Bond 50, Adele and positive reviews.
Right now the positive reviews are literally overwhelming from what I've read online. Far more positive than even CR.

Adele will probably hit the No. 1 spot too next week (if not this week) for the first time in Bond history.

Sorry guys, but Craig is here to stay. FBF, time to send in your wierdos..... :lol:
At least for two more films. He finally said as much directly in an interview this week.
Which would take us to 2018 at the earliest for a new Bond, and makes Craig only the third actor ever to play Bond for 5 films.
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The Sweeney wrote:
Napoleon Solo wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:I said all along Skyfall will be the biggest Bond film in years, helped along by Olympics, Bond 50, Adele and positive reviews.
Right now the positive reviews are literally overwhelming from what I've read online. Far more positive than even CR.

Adele will probably hit the No. 1 spot too next week (if not this week) for the first time in Bond history.

Sorry guys, but Craig is here to stay. FBF, time to send in your wierdos..... :lol:
At least for two more films. He finally said as much directly in an interview this week.
Which would take us to 2018 at the earliest for a new Bond, and makes Craig only the third actor ever to play Bond for 5 films.
*If* they get back on an every-other-year schedule (which Sony and MGM want, but it remains to be seen whether Eon can manage), Bond 25 would be out in 2016. That would mean Craig was Bond for a decade, longer than Connery's 1962-71 Eon tenure (if you overlook his one-film absence). If the interval is three years between films, and Bond 25 is out in 2018, that means Craig will have been Bond for 12 years, matching Roger Moore's tenure (albeit with 2 fewer films).
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Napoleon Solo wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Napoleon Solo wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:I said all along Skyfall will be the biggest Bond film in years, helped along by Olympics, Bond 50, Adele and positive reviews.
Right now the positive reviews are literally overwhelming from what I've read online. Far more positive than even CR.

Adele will probably hit the No. 1 spot too next week (if not this week) for the first time in Bond history.

Sorry guys, but Craig is here to stay. FBF, time to send in your wierdos..... :lol:
At least for two more films. He finally said as much directly in an interview this week.
Which would take us to 2018 at the earliest for a new Bond, and makes Craig only the third actor ever to play Bond for 5 films.
*If* they get back on an every-other-year schedule (which Sony and MGM want, but it remains to be seen whether Eon can manage), Bond 25 would be out in 2016. That would mean Craig was Bond for a decade, longer than Connery's 1962-71 Eon tenure (if you overlook his one-film absence). If the interval is three years between films, and Bond 25 is out in 2018, that means Craig will have been Bond for 12 years, matching Roger Moore's tenure (albeit with 2 fewer films).
And I'm not sure its feasible to do a Bond film in 2 years anymore without compromising on quality. QoS is living proof of that.
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If this madness continues, it seems that every rebel here will officially become what BJ said......FBFs.
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The Sweeney wrote: And I'm not sure its feasible to do a Bond film in 2 years anymore without compromising on quality. QoS is living proof of that.
It is possible maybe not with these clowns in charge but it is possible.

There is something curious I think is lacking from Babs and Dannos talk of two more. Maybe be it's nothing well see if it comes up in later interviews.

Normally Bond movies get good reviews pretty much no matter what. It took some time for the trickle down of QOS/Quark to hit the fan. There were a few early outliers saying this film stinks, most praised it then, the negatives really properly popped up after it was released in the US. November 13th to 14th. Probably why it had a decent opener.

Some of these papers are almost the same review of the last Bond, different reviewers same start count. Not that any of this matters, they can still piss on Fleming's grave while being praised for making the best Bond film ever. Negative v Positive is fun to compare but hardly relevant to the argument raised at this place.

In one way you have to respect them if they can reinvent Bond as something it's never been then sell it successfully to people as the authentic deal, it's funny to watch people lap it up regurgitating the talking points without knowing it. Making a better film than the last one does not absolve them of their previous sins or the new ones they are committing in this one.
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Mazer Rackham wrote:
The Sweeney wrote: And I'm not sure its feasible to do a Bond film in 2 years anymore without compromising on quality. QoS is living proof of that.
It is possible maybe not with these clowns in charge but it is possible.

There is something curious I think is lacking from Babs and Dannos talk of two more. Maybe be it's nothing well see if it comes up in later interviews.

Normally Bond movies get good reviews pretty much no matter what. It took some time for the trickle down of QOS/Quark to hit the fan. There were a few early outliers saying this film stinks, most praised it then, the negatives really properly popped up after it was released in the US. November 13th to 14th. Probably why it had a decent opener.

Some of these papers are almost the same review of the last Bond, different reviewers same start count. Not that any of this matters, they can still piss on Fleming's grave while being praised for making the best Bond film ever. Negative v Positive is fun to compare but hardly relevant to the argument raised at this place.

In one way you have to respect them if they can reinvent Bond as something it's never been then sell it successfully to people as the authentic deal, it's funny to watch people lap it up regurgitating the talking points without knowing it. Making a better film than the last one does not absolve them of their previous sins or the new ones they are committing in this one.
The one review of note is Graham Rye, who is a huge Bond fan (obviously) and hated Quark. Apparently he loves Skyfall, so I will be interested to read his full review when it comes out.

The rest of this press garbage is BS journalism. I take most of it with a pinch of salt.
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Graham Rye is a curious fellow. I disagree with him about a lot, for example what he tends to think is a good Bond film usually falls outside the norm of what a Bond film traditionally is. Not that there isn't room for that, to me anomalies in a series are the exceptions not the rule.

At this point I'd be surprised to have a Skyfall fails buzz from early reviews. When people not especially chosen get it we will more balanced reviews, some have it ready but can't say yet, it's just the way it works.

I'm curious about Newman's score I haven't noticed it directly mentioned yet, not that I've looked at everything either.
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I don't mind the reviews some think we should I don't care to dignify that.
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