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I recently said that Kasich was my favourite of the Republican candidates. Here's why.
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Good guy. He has my vote. I want him or Walker on the ticket, or both. :up:
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bjmdds wrote:Good guy. He has my vote. I want him or Walker on the ticket, or both. :up:
That would be a bit of a clash, if Kasich wants to help the poor, while Walker wants to bond them in indentured servitude to the Koch Brothers.
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I like his attitude on helping his fellow man. I think a,lot of people feel this way. I rather a trillion in debt if every year is every American was being helped and for FED 0 interest if average americans could refinance their debts through government banks instead of billion dollar companies getting the benefits.

Koch brothers? Going to slowly walk away from that land mine.

Unions on the other hand would see a 180 change from repubs if they put themselves (support) up on the market. If they said hey we will support your candidates where we can in 2016, guess who their new best friend would be.

On the other hand the unions have to update as well it's not 1960 any more, we are not a wealthy nation with a large industrial base any more. Much of the post office and other similar problems are rooted in bad deals made with unions back when the times were fat, in the lean years its bankrupting companies trying to keep their old deals. In many ways I adhere to right to work, but with no unions we would all be forced into Wal-mart sweatshops.
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I'm not a Catholic (I believe Kasich is,), but my views are very influenced by Catholic social teaching, aka distributism. I read an interesting book called A Guildsman's Interpretation of History by a 1930s distributist named A J Penty. He enumerated 3 differences between the guilds found in medieval Europe and today's unions. 1) Guilds represented both master craftsmen and workers, while unions pitch one class against another. 2) Unlike guilds, unions accept no responsibility for the quality of the products made by their members. 3) Union membership is not compulsory, whereas the guilds had a monopoly on members of their trade.

The last one smacks of the old closed shop, but it sounds to me that in order to see the future, unions should be looking to the past. Though it might be impossible now, with globalisation and the "race to the bottom", especially if the monstrous TPP (a trade agreement that would allow corporations to sue governments if they pass worker or environmental protection laws that would hurt their bottom line) gets signed.
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Much of the early 20th century church teaching is interwoven with socialist philosophies, it could be argued the core of socialist teaching began 2000 years ago with Jesus, in the bible he is almost unique in his teachings. Certainly apart form the prophets, I also look to Dorcas and Ruth as inspirations.

From the churches point of view I agree, when this all comes to pass, a hundred years or more the quibbles over policy will be long forgotten, what will matter is what we did as a people to help our fellow man. As a family our goal is for our children for be provide for as best we can, the dream is for them and their families to be able to prosper. IMHO all of us living at this moment have a solemn duty to assist our neighbors reach a better tomorrow, I mean this in the most basic sense of shelter, safety, nourishment both physical food and spiritual, then the fundamentals of education.

When the socialist movement were first starting the vast majority of wealth was held by companies, over the years there was a dramatic shift where world governments are in control of a shocking amount of the world capital, the early arguments about shifting the wealth away from those companies I'm torn about that, there were a lot of very harmful monopolistic dynasties perverting the natural course of societal and economic development, still socialism taken to the extremes were even more harmful.

Today the world is governed by gigantic nation states throwing around vast amounts of money each day, IMO government for the sake of government is useless, government does have a function and is very necessary the bulk waste and over reaching bureaucracy could be cut out tomorrow for the better, IMO if were are going to run a debt spend billions of dollars a day nobody should go to bed hungry, sick, frightened for the next day.

These are just part of our beliefs although we try to live them as best we can each day the reality of the world is treacherous, those who live by kindness will be beaten and robbed (probably by a Clinton or Bush ;) ) , so we have to moderate our charity with wisdom. I don't know the answer for our times, I can't help but think these sort of guiding principals moderated by the necessitates might be useful.
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To what I was saying before, for example if the government would confiscate all the wealth of those over $250k personal and business it would only fund the government for a short time. Without the private sector to generates new wealth the government can tax the system breaks.

But all so much of the wealth rest is in government hands, so I don't see why we can have every citizen get some help to get out of debt and live at least comfortably able to afford a decent education,
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