Main reason why Craig is not Bond..

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What is your main criticism of Craig as Bond

Doesn't look the part
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51%
Lacks "Bond essence"
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28%
Too old for rookie Bond
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6%
Lacks charisma
8
11%
Too short
3
4%
 
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Veronica wrote:Babs wanted to make her boyfriend Bond.That's why they did it.I honestly don't know what's with the whole "Bond formula woudn't work" in today's world.Good God,they mean that charismatic,sophisticated secret agent wouldn't work...well that's just hilarious as saying that Denise Richards is totally believeable as a nuclear scientist.
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ml94 wrote:
Veronica wrote:Babs wanted to make her boyfriend Bond.That's why they did it.I honestly don't know what's with the whole "Bond formula woudn't work" in today's world.Good God,they mean that charismatic,sophisticated secret agent wouldn't work...well that's just hilarious as saying that Denise Richards is totally believeable as a nuclear scientist.
Yeah, bab S#CKS! :evil:
Someone wrote in imDb how they should make Babs the next Bond villian because she way more dangerous for MI6 and 007 than Silva in Skyfall.I can't help but agree..who took Silva seriously anway?The guy was completely over-the-top.
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Veronica wrote:
ml94 wrote:
Veronica wrote:Babs wanted to make her boyfriend Bond.That's why they did it.I honestly don't know what's with the whole "Bond formula woudn't work" in today's world.Good God,they mean that charismatic,sophisticated secret agent wouldn't work...well that's just hilarious as saying that Denise Richards is totally believeable as a nuclear scientist.
Yeah, bab S#CKS! :evil:
Someone wrote in imDb how they should make Babs the next Bond villian because she way more dangerous for MI6 and 007 than Silva in Skyfall.I can't help but agree..who took Silva seriously anway?The guy was completely over-the-top.
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ml94 wrote:
Veronica wrote:
ml94 wrote:
Veronica wrote:Babs wanted to make her boyfriend Bond.That's why they did it.I honestly don't know what's with the whole "Bond formula woudn't work" in today's world.Good God,they mean that charismatic,sophisticated secret agent wouldn't work...well that's just hilarious as saying that Denise Richards is totally believeable as a nuclear scientist.
Yeah, bab S#CKS! :evil:
Someone wrote in imDb how they should make Babs the next Bond villian because she is way more dangerous for MI6 and 007 than Silva in Skyfall.I can't help but agree..who took Silva seriously anway?The guy was completely over-the-top.
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yeah,sadly.I mean,if Pierce did one more movie(CR with Tarantino) like Tarantino wanted that would be a proper send-off for him and even then that wouldn't be his full potential.TWINE is almost brilliant(guess what's wrong with that one) and TND had a huge potential to be a truly great movie,but it's a movie with some truly brilliant moments and too much action.The result is somehow mediocre after the splendid GoldenEye.DAD is well...DAD but that would be forgotten if Pierce got an absolute gem for a send-off.On a forum in my country someone commented on Craig:"This is just rape of the franchise,Brosnan was the last Bond." True. Then someone added how "Brosnan was the best Bond.Yes,even better than Connery :D "
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Veronica wrote:
ml94 wrote:
Veronica wrote:
ml94 wrote:
Veronica wrote:Babs wanted to make her boyfriend Bond.That's why they did it.I honestly don't know what's with the whole "Bond formula woudn't work" in today's world.Good God,they mean that charismatic,sophisticated secret agent wouldn't work...well that's just hilarious as saying that Denise Richards is totally believeable as a nuclear scientist.
Yeah, bab S#CKS! :evil:
Someone wrote in imDb how they should make Babs the next Bond villian because she is way more dangerous for MI6 and 007 than Silva in Skyfall.I can't help but agree..who took Silva seriously anway?The guy was completely over-the-top.
R.I.P JAMES BOND 1962-2002.
yeah,sadly.I mean,if Pierce did one more movie(CR with Tarantino) like Tarantino wanted that would be a proper send-off for him and even then that wouldn't be his full potential.TWINE is almost brilliant(guess what's wrong with that one) and TND had a huge potential to be a truly great movie,but it's a movie with some truly brilliant moments and too much action.The result is somehow mediocre after the splendid GoldenEye.DAD is well...DAD but that would be forgotten if Pierce got an absolute gem for a send-off.On a forum in my country someone commented on Craig:"This is just rape of the franchise,Brosnan was the last Bond." True. Then someone added how "Brosnan was the best Bond.Yes,even better than Connery :D "
1.Brosnan
2.Connery
3.Moore
4.Dalton (very underrated)


5.Lazenby
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I can't decide whether to give 3rd place to Moore or Dalton.I respect and tolerate both of them and both had some aspects that I wanna see in James Bond.But Moore was never serious as a spy more like some spoof but totally believeable as a womanizer.Dalton on the other hand was believeable as spy but IMO didn't have that coolness and suaveness,sophistication that Bond should have.Made a good spy but not really good James Bond.But as Moore himself never took the role seriously then it's completely okay.So,then maybe Moore simply for the fact he is more charming and always made me laugh.I agree that Dalton is somehow underrated.In polls he always finishes with little more votes than Lazenby.So I agree with your ranking.Brosnan is the absolute epitome of Bond to me with Connery coming in second place for obvious reasons. :up:

Didn't watch OHMSS but did see some clips and Lazenby seems like a confused school-boy who was somehow thrown into the whole spy game...so yeah..
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Veronica wrote:I can't decide whether to give 3rd place to Moore or Dalton.I respect and tolerate both of them and both had some aspects that I wanna see in James Bond.But Moore was never serious as a spy more like some spoof but totally believeable as a womanizer.Dalton on the other hand was believeable as spy but IMO didn't have that coolness and suaveness,sophistication that Bond should have.Good made a good spy but not really good James Bond.But as Moore himself never took the role seriously then it's completely okay.So,then maybe Moore simply for the fact he is more charming and always made me laugh.I agree that Dalton is somehow underrated.In polls he always finishes with little more votes than Lazenby.So I agree with your ranking.Brosnan is the absolute epitome of Bond to me with Connery coming in second place for obvious reasons. :up:

Didn't watch OHMSS but did see some clips and Lazenby seems like a confused school-boy who was somehow thrown into the whole spy game...so yeah..
Yeah, Lazenby was model not actor...
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ml94 wrote:
Veronica wrote:I can't decide whether to give 3rd place to Moore or Dalton.I respect and tolerate both of them and both had some aspects that I wanna see in James Bond.But Moore was never serious as a spy more like some spoof but totally believeable as a womanizer.Dalton on the other hand was believeable as spy but IMO didn't have that coolness and suaveness,sophistication that Bond should have.Made a good spy but not really good James Bond.But as Moore himself never took the role seriously then it's completely okay.So,then maybe Moore simply for the fact he is more charming and always made me laugh.I agree that Dalton is somehow underrated.In polls he always finishes with little more votes than Lazenby.So I agree with your ranking.Brosnan is the absolute epitome of Bond to me with Connery coming in second place for obvious reasons. :up:

Didn't watch OHMSS but did see some clips and Lazenby seems like a confused school-boy who was somehow thrown into the whole spy game...so yeah..
Yeah, Lazenby was model not actor...
The way he said "Bond.James Bond." oh,lord,like he was selling ice-cream. :lol:
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Veronica, you haven't seen OHMSS? :shock: If you have seen only a few clips, then you need to see the whole film. Hell, if I had only seen the Kauffman scene from Tomorrow Never Dies, I might think that Brosnan more that just a smarmy, cheesey pun machine. I don't care what Lazenby was/is like in real life, he gave the role a d**n good try. His acting might have been left wanting at times (could have improved over more films), but he had a toughness and a lethal edge that wasn't seen again until Dalton, and hasn't been seen since.

My ranking:
1. Dalton
2. Lazenby
3. Connery
4. Moore
5. Brosnan
6. Craig

Lazenby has recently moved from 3rd to 2nd, while Connery slips down a spot, all the others are non-movers.
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Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:Veronica, you haven't seen OHMSS? :shock: If you have seen only a few clips, then you need to see the whole film. Hell, if I had only seen the Kauffman scene from Tomorrow Never Dies, I might think that Brosnan more that just a smarmy, cheesey pun machine. I don't care what Lazenby was/is like in real life, he gave the role a d**n good try. His acting might have been left wanting at times (could have improved over more films), but he had a toughness and a lethal edge that wasn't seen again until Dalton, and hasn't been seen since.

My ranking:
1. Dalton
2. Lazenby
3. Connery
4. Moore
5. Brosnan
6. Craig

Lazenby has recently moved from 3rd to 2nd, while Connery slips down a spot, all the others are non-movers.
Didn't get that impression.He seems way more mellower.Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.And Lazenby before Connery?God,really??? :shock:
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Yes. I've never believed Connery being the first = Connery being the best. Lazenby brought a physicality to Bond that we hadn't seen. Connery was my #2, and might be again, but for the time being, he's dropped down to my #3 Bond.
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[quote="Daltonite Toothpaste"]Yes. I've never believed Connery being the first = Connery being the best. Lazenby brought a physicality to Bond that we hadn't seen. Connery was my #2, and might be again, but for the time being, he's dropped down to my #3 Bond.[/quote

Lazenby seems good in physicality,I'll give him that.But it's there when it all stops.Plus,Bond has a gun and cool gadgets he doesn't have to be ninja.I'll have to admit the fight scenes are not the thing I remember from Bond movies because just about everything is more important than that(IMO).Connery,on the other hand was believeable as both a spy and a ladiesman.Plus,I'll never forget that "You've had you six" scene in Dr.No.As well as the first introduction in casino.No one can top that. :cig:
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I believe that Dalton did top it with the scene where Bond interrogates Puskin. Connery was good, but Dalton is my favourite Bond.

I'm all for Bond having gadgets (though not too many), but Bond should also be self sufficient, able to think his was out of a situation. That is far more rewarding to watch, imo, than Bond having a convenient gadget.
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Veronica wrote:
ml94 wrote:
Veronica wrote:I can't decide whether to give 3rd place to Moore or Dalton.I respect and tolerate both of them and both had some aspects that I wanna see in James Bond.But Moore was never serious as a spy more like some spoof but totally believeable as a womanizer.Dalton on the other hand was believeable as spy but IMO didn't have that coolness and suaveness,sophistication that Bond should have.Made a good spy but not really good James Bond.But as Moore himself never took the role seriously then it's completely okay.So,then maybe Moore simply for the fact he is more charming and always made me laugh.I agree that Dalton is somehow underrated.In polls he always finishes with little more votes than Lazenby.So I agree with your ranking.Brosnan is the absolute epitome of Bond to me with Connery coming in second place for obvious reasons. :up:

Didn't watch OHMSS but did see some clips and Lazenby seems like a confused school-boy who was somehow thrown into the whole spy game...so yeah..
Yeah, Lazenby was model not actor...
The way he said "Bond.James Bond." oh,lord,like he was selling ice-cream. :lol:
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Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:I believe that Dalton did top it with the scene where Bond interrogates Puskin. Connery was good, but Dalton is my favourite Bond.

I'm all for Bond having gadgets (though not too many), but Bond should also be self sufficient, able to think his was out of a situation. That is far more rewarding to watch, imo, than Bond having a convenient gadget.
I like to see that as well because then I have a feeling that I'm really watching a spy.
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What the F guys!? I'm better than Dalton.
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Lacks charisma - so boooring
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numpol wrote:Lacks charisma - so boooring

True. I think "lacks the Bond essence" is the best answer because it covers all aspects. Looks,charisma,style,sophistication...
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Old bond: coca cola, new bond: tab clear and someday people will realise that.
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Or maybe-old Bond Dom Perignon,Craig-Heineken beer.
Its fitting after all.
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