Anthony Hopkins: The oscar process is disgusting

Anthony Hopkins: The oscar process is disgusting

Postby shaken not stirred » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:55 pm

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/oscar-proces ... 40191.html

I know I'm not here much and due to sf I don't want to hear all the praise it's getting so I'll take a break from time to time to keep My stress down but here's Sir Anthony Hopkins thoughts on the oscars and why they're a joke & the guy couldn't have said it any better himself. :cheers:
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Postby FormerBondFan » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:52 pm

shaken not stirred wrote:http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/oscar-process-is--disgusting--say-hopkins-085340191.html

I know I'm not here much and due to sf I don't want to hear all the praise it's getting so I'll take a break from time to time to keep My stress down but here's Sir Anthony Hopkins thoughts on the oscars and why they're a joke & the guy couldn't have said it any better himself. :cheers:


If Death Star III ends up getting even single nomination (major or technical), then Mr. Hopkins is right.

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Postby bjmdds » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:22 pm

There will be 3 nominations pushed by BOAR-bara, the best song, the best supporting actress, and the best picture. I do not know the other songs in the other films so I cannot compare them but Hollywood might reward the new mother Adele, even though her dirge is boring. NO chance the film wins best picture.......NONE..........Dench, from a mercy vote, could win it, but it would be undeservedly so for her acting was trash :down: and Hollywood's academy is a bunch of losers who vote. FBF, it's all over so who cares. MI:5 and Ant-Man and the Hobbit trilogy awaits :!:
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Postby FormerBondFan » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:47 pm

bjmdds wrote:FBF, it's all over so who cares.


If that's the case, I will stop watching the Oscars for good unless the freaks are being sent in once DC retires.

MI:5 and Ant-Man and the Hobbit trilogy awaits :!:


And Indy 5.
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Re: Anthony Hopkins: The oscar process is disgusting

Postby The Saint 007 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:33 pm

I saw a thread the other day about how Skyfall tries too hard to be artistic. Barbara is so obsessed with winning awards, and tries to make a big deal over nothing. She continuously has all of these ridiculous artistic symbols inserted into the Bond films, and only some of the forum nerds will care to figure out the meanings to them. The only reason why Barbara can still manage to get away with doing all of this nonsense, is because of her father making James Bond a pop-culture icon worldwide. The James Bond name has a lot of power/recognition thanks to Albert Broccoli.

I don't think Skyfall will be winning any major awards. Adele's song could possibly win an award, but that's about it.
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Postby Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:50 pm

The Saint 007 wrote:I saw a thread the other day about how Skyfall tries too hard to be artistic. Barbara is so obsessed with winning awards, and tries to make a big deal over nothing. She continuously has all of these ridiculous artistic symbols inserted into the Bond films, and only some of the forum nerds will care to figure out the meanings to them. The only reason why Barbara can still manage to get away with doing all of this nonsense, is because of her father making James Bond a pop-culture icon worldwide. The James Bond name has a lot of power/recognition thanks to Albert Broccoli.

I don't think Skyfall will be winning any major awards. Adele's song could possibly win an award, but that's about it.


I agree. Eon hate the old Bond series but rely on the brand to get people to see the Craig movies. If the Craig movies were not branded as Bonds they would probably flop .
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Postby The Saint 007 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:38 pm

Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
The Saint 007 wrote:I saw a thread the other day about how Skyfall tries too hard to be artistic. Barbara is so obsessed with winning awards, and tries to make a big deal over nothing. She continuously has all of these ridiculous artistic symbols inserted into the Bond films, and only some of the forum nerds will care to figure out the meanings to them. The only reason why Barbara can still manage to get away with doing all of this nonsense, is because of her father making James Bond a pop-culture icon worldwide. The James Bond name has a lot of power/recognition thanks to Albert Broccoli.

I don't think Skyfall will be winning any major awards. Adele's song could possibly win an award, but that's about it.


I agree. Eon hate the old Bond series but rely on the brand to get people to see the Craig movies. If the Craig movies were not branded as Bonds they would probably flop .


Another thing is that Craig's Bond films don't really have much competition. I was watching a recent Sir Roger Moore interview on YouTube the other day, and one of the top rated comments was this:

He's the only James Bond to actually compete with real movies! His movies were up against Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Return of the Jedi & Rambo 2... all major lifetime blockbusters of all time & Roger's 007 films held their own! Every other 007 they have hid in the fall against nothing! If Daniel Craig is the best 007 put his movies out head to head against the summer blockbuster!


It would be interesting to see how well Craig's Bonds would do against some really decent blockbuster films like Moore's Bonds had to compete with at the time.
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Postby FormerBondFan » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:36 pm

Tim's Bond didn't survive during the summer of '89, and everyone knows why.
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Postby The Saint 007 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:26 pm

FormerBondFan wrote:Tim's Bond didn't survive during the summer of '89, and everyone knows why.


There were various reasons as to why Licence To Kill didn't do so well. But one of the biggest factors was that it had strong competition from various big movies that summer. Which is why I said before, it would be interesting to see how well Craig's Bond films would do if they went head to head against other blockbuster films.
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Postby FormerBondFan » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:24 am

The Saint 007 wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:Tim's Bond didn't survive during the summer of '89, and everyone knows why.


There were various reasons as to why Licence To Kill didn't do so well. But one of the biggest factors was that it had strong competition from various big movies that summer. Which is why I said before, it would be interesting to see how well Craig's Bond films would do if they went head to head against other blockbuster films.


Most of the moviegoers thought LTK was more in the likes of violent shows/movies of that time than Bond.
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Postby Omega » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:35 am

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FormerBondFan wrote:Tim's Bond didn't survive during the summer of '89, and everyone knows why.


There were various reasons as to why Licence To Kill didn't do so well. But one of the biggest factors was that it had strong competition from various big movies that summer. Which is why I said before, it would be interesting to see how well Craig's Bond films would do if they went head to head against other blockbuster films.

Thats a point as hollywood gives itself a weeks between films and it helps them to make money. Total Recall got Bourne 4 moved, didn't help either.

I think Tim Dalton's bond ,who is Fleming Bond make no mistake, would crush Craig Bond, I mean head to head same production values. But Bond films seem to be bigger back then in the last 10 year Bond has shrunk in scope and spectacle.
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Postby The Sweeney » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:38 am

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The Saint 007 wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:Tim's Bond didn't survive during the summer of '89, and everyone knows why.


There were various reasons as to why Licence To Kill didn't do so well. But one of the biggest factors was that it had strong competition from various big movies that summer. Which is why I said before, it would be interesting to see how well Craig's Bond films would do if they went head to head against other blockbuster films.

Thats a point as hollywood gives itself a weeks between films and it helps them to make money. Total Recall got Bourne 4 moved, didn't help either.

I think Tim Dalton's bond ,who is Fleming Bond make no mistake, would crush Craig Bond, I mean head to head same production values. But Bond films seem to be bigger back then in the last 10 year Bond has shrunk in scope and spectacle.

No way. As much as I love LTK, the public have taken to Craig far more than they ever did Dalton.
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Postby The Saint 007 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:29 pm

I think people have warmed up to Dalton's Bond films over the years. Perhaps they were a little ahead of their time.

But it would be cool to have a Dalton versus Craig in a "Battle of the Bonds", similar to Connery versus Moore in 1983.
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Postby Daltonite Toothpaste » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:48 pm

That would never happen now. But if there was a 2nd Bond made with Dalton c.1987 or 1989*, alongside Craig and with the same budget, then the Dalton one would blow the Craig film out of the water.

*Though Dalton had to much respect for the films to make a rival Bond film, this could also have happened back in the 90's (Dalton vs Brosnan).
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Re: Anthony Hopkins: The oscar process is disgusting

Postby Blowfeld » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:55 am

Poor Timothy never did click with the audience. He has more charm in his little finger than Daniel, yet somehow the monosyllabic thug does well enough.

I think Sweeney was saying they could bring back Blofeld I don't think they can touch it even to imitate it, whoever has Thunderball rights will miraculously reappear. Maybe if EOn could get the rights then they could remake Thunderball, I don't know if fans would care half a lick after NSNA.
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Postby The Saint 007 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:58 pm

I've read somewhere that Kevin McClory had another Thunderball remake planned called Warhead, and apparently Timothy Dalton was considered to play Bond.

Yeah, I also don't get why most audiences didn't take to Dalton, but adore the miserable and thuggish Craig. Some people say that the charming and charismatic types of heroes are dated, and will point to the various problems going on in the world, or all the recent action heroes as to why we need a hardcore Bond that's more cold-blooded and realistic.

But there has always been major problems going on in the world, and there have been plenty of tough action heroes in the past as well. Roger Moore had to compete with the Stallone and Schwarzenegger types of heroes during his run as Bond, and he still did fine with playing the role as the charismatic super spy, and people enjoyed the fun and escapism of the films.
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Postby The Sweeney » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:16 pm

The Saint 007 wrote:I've read somewhere that Kevin McClory had another Thunderball remake planned called Warhead, and apparently Timothy Dalton was considered to play Bond.

Yeah, I also don't get why most audiences didn't take to Dalton, but adore the miserable and thuggish Craig. Some people say that the charming and charismatic types of heroes are dated, and will point to the various problems going on in the world, or all the recent action heroes as to why we need a hardcore Bond that's more cold-blooded and realistic.

But there has always been major problems going on in the world, and there have been plenty of tough action heroes in the past as well. Roger Moore had to compete with the Stallone and Schwarzenegger types of heroes during his run as Bond, and he still did fine with playing the role as the charismatic super spy, and people enjoyed the fun and escapism of the films.

But Cubby realised he needed to change things mid 80's, hence why Dalton came in as a more cold-blooded, realistic killer to replace Moore.

I personally don't find that many differences between Craig or Dalton in terms of their portrayals as Bond.
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Postby Omega » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:48 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
The Saint 007 wrote:I've read somewhere that Kevin McClory had another Thunderball remake planned called Warhead, and apparently Timothy Dalton was considered to play Bond.

Yeah, I also don't get why most audiences didn't take to Dalton, but adore the miserable and thuggish Craig. Some people say that the charming and charismatic types of heroes are dated, and will point to the various problems going on in the world, or all the recent action heroes as to why we need a hardcore Bond that's more cold-blooded and realistic.

But there has always been major problems going on in the world, and there have been plenty of tough action heroes in the past as well. Roger Moore had to compete with the Stallone and Schwarzenegger types of heroes during his run as Bond, and he still did fine with playing the role as the charismatic super spy, and people enjoyed the fun and escapism of the films.

But Cubby realised he needed to change things mid 80's, hence why Dalton came in as a more cold-blooded, realistic killer to replace Moore.

I personally don't find that many differences between Craig or Dalton in terms of their portrayals as Bond.

I have to defend Dalton honor on this, his Bond is more human while being everything Bond is supposed to be, Craig has yet to play Bond, he keeps "beginning" and not really being Bond yet so he gets a pass on lacking the skills he should have. Dalton day one came to bat knocking it out of the park. Dalton looks and acts like Felming's Bond, Brosnan and Connery are part Fleming's Bond and Cubby's, Craig is Barbara Broccoli's Bond.
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Re: Anthony Hopkins: The oscar process is disgusting

Postby bjamesobrad » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:40 pm

Omega wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
The Saint 007 wrote:I've read somewhere that Kevin McClory had another Thunderball remake planned called Warhead, and apparently Timothy Dalton was considered to play Bond.

Yeah, I also don't get why most audiences didn't take to Dalton, but adore the miserable and thuggish Craig. Some people say that the charming and charismatic types of heroes are dated, and will point to the various problems going on in the world, or all the recent action heroes as to why we need a hardcore Bond that's more cold-blooded and realistic.

But there has always been major problems going on in the world, and there have been plenty of tough action heroes in the past as well. Roger Moore had to compete with the Stallone and Schwarzenegger types of heroes during his run as Bond, and he still did fine with playing the role as the charismatic super spy, and people enjoyed the fun and escapism of the films.

But Cubby realised he needed to change things mid 80's, hence why Dalton came in as a more cold-blooded, realistic killer to replace Moore.

I personally don't find that many differences between Craig or Dalton in terms of their portrayals as Bond.

I have to defend Dalton honor on this, his Bond is more human while being everything Bond is supposed to be, Craig has yet to play Bond, he keeps "beginning" and not really being Bond yet so he gets a pass on lacking the skills he should have. Dalton day one came to bat knocking it out of the park. Dalton looks and acts like Felming's Bond, Brosnan and Connery are part Fleming's Bond and Cubby's, Craig is Barbara Broccoli's Bond.



I'd agree with Omega but would also say Connery is Terrence Youngs Bond
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Postby Blowfeld » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:01 pm

bjamesobrad wrote:
Omega wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
The Saint 007 wrote:I've read somewhere that Kevin McClory had another Thunderball remake planned called Warhead, and apparently Timothy Dalton was considered to play Bond.

Yeah, I also don't get why most audiences didn't take to Dalton, but adore the miserable and thuggish Craig. Some people say that the charming and charismatic types of heroes are dated, and will point to the various problems going on in the world, or all the recent action heroes as to why we need a hardcore Bond that's more cold-blooded and realistic.

But there has always been major problems going on in the world, and there have been plenty of tough action heroes in the past as well. Roger Moore had to compete with the Stallone and Schwarzenegger types of heroes during his run as Bond, and he still did fine with playing the role as the charismatic super spy, and people enjoyed the fun and escapism of the films.

But Cubby realised he needed to change things mid 80's, hence why Dalton came in as a more cold-blooded, realistic killer to replace Moore.

I personally don't find that many differences between Craig or Dalton in terms of their portrayals as Bond.

I have to defend Dalton honor on this, his Bond is more human while being everything Bond is supposed to be, Craig has yet to play Bond, he keeps "beginning" and not really being Bond yet so he gets a pass on lacking the skills he should have. Dalton day one came to bat knocking it out of the park. Dalton looks and acts like Felming's Bond, Brosnan and Connery are part Fleming's Bond and Cubby's, Craig is Barbara Broccoli's Bond.



I'd agree with Omega but would also say Connery is Terrence Youngs Bond

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