Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

User avatar
Blowfeld
Ministry of Defence
Ministry of Defence
Posts: 3195
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:03 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Goldfinger
For Your Eyes only
The Living Daylights
Location: the world

Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Blowfeld »

Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.
by Christian Toto


Actors don’t just get a fictional license to kill when they’re cast as British superagent James Bond. They get a career boost unlike any other.

What other franchise can transform an ordinary lug into a hero capable of bedding multiple hotties and saving the world – all in under two hours? But so far new Bond Daniel Craig has yet to take advantage of one of the best gigs in the movie business.

Dream House Daniel Craig

Craig’s latest movie, “Dream House,” arrived DOA in theaters over the weekend, and critics weren’t even allowed a glimpse at the film before its release. The flop comes on the heels of “Cowboys & Aliens,” the summer tentpole wannabe which also underwhelmed with critics and crowds alike.

Heard any talk of a “Cowboys & Aliens II?” Me neither.

Craig’s other post-Bond roles, “Defiance,” “The Golden Compass” and “The Invasion,” didn’t make an impression on audiences despite big budgets and capable co-stars.

The craggy-faced star doesn’t want for talent. The underrated crime drama “Layer Cake” proved that. And, in an age of metrosexual leading men, Craig brings a virility to his work that’s impossible to deny. Just ask the ladies who marveled over his choice of swimwear in “Casino Royale,” his first Bond outing.

But Craig isn’t the only Bond to struggle outside the spy franchise.

Pierce Brosnan left his TV career behind for good when he was cast as 007 in 1995’s “GoldenEye,” but his post-Bond life found him slipping into supporting work. Brosnan may not be able to “carry” a film these days, but he’s shrewdly positioned himself as an older, but still remarkably handsome, character actor who can do dramas and comedy with panache. And given his age – he’s closing in on 60 – that’s a pretty sweet spot to occupy in age-obsessed Hollywood.

He just can’t sing a lick, if “Mamma Mia!” is any indication.

Two-time Bond star Timothy Dalton’s post-franchise career proved far less successful, in part because many never warmed up to his take on the iconic film role .

Craig does have a chance at rebranding his career this winter. He’ll star in “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo,” the hotly anticipated film version of author Stieg Larsson’s bestseller. Director David Fincher, fresh from his triumphant 2010 film “The Social Network” could be just the person to tease something more out of Craig than we’ve seen so far.
Image
"Those were the days when we still associated Bond with suave, old school actors such as Sean Connery and Roger Moore,"
"Daniel didn't have a hint of suave about him," - Patsy Palmer
User avatar
FormerBondFan
008
Posts: 6325
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Star Trek
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Harry Potter
Middle-Earth
The Matrix
Mission: Impossible
The Mummy
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Location: Southern CA

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by FormerBondFan »

[quote="Blowfeld]Pierce Brosnan left his TV career behind for good when he was cast as 007 in 1995’s “GoldenEye,” but his post-Bond life found him slipping into supporting work. Brosnan may not be able to “carry” a film these days, but he’s shrewdly positioned himself as an older, but still remarkably handsome, character actor who can do dramas and comedy with panache.[/quote]

I hope he doesn't stuck in this mode for too long. Considering he's the best and most popular since Sean, he deserves far better than this, especially since none of his Bonds are classics save for GoldenEye. This poor guy's underrated FAR enough already. Those who grew up with Pierce's Bond deserve to get what Sean's fans got after Sean himself left Bond. Sean did great flicks like Indy 3, Hunt for The Red October, and The Rock, giving the general audience to see him beyond his Bond image. Also, look at Sir Patrick Stewart. He got X-Men, allowing the general audience to see beyond his Trek image. It's rather unfair if Pierce doesn't have this career, and I feel the general audience still see him as just Bond and nothing more. Yes, he does make interesting choices after Bond, but none of them attracts beyond the fanbase. His post-Bond movies either got mixed reviews or don't get the recognition they deserve. A no Oscar nominations for his work after Bond. Now that's a serious crime.
Image
User avatar
Kristatos
OO Moderator
OO Moderator
Posts: 12525
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:26 pm
Location: St. Cyril's

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Kristatos »

FormerBondFan wrote: I hope he doesn't stuck in this mode for too long. Considering he's the best and most popular since Sean, he deserves far better than this, especially since none of his Bonds are classics save for GoldenEye. This poor guy's underrated FAR enough already. Those who grew up with Pierce's Bond deserve to get what Sean's fans got after Sean himself left Bond. Sean did great flicks like Indy 3, Hunt for The Red October, and The Rock, giving the general audience to see him beyond his Bond image. Also, look at Sir Patrick Stewart. He got X-Men, allowing the general audience to see beyond his Trek image. It's rather unfair if Pierce doesn't have this career, and I feel the general audience still see him as just Bond and nothing more. Yes, he does make interesting choices after Bond, but none of them attracts beyond the fanbase. His post-Bond movies either got mixed reviews or don't get the recognition they deserve. A no Oscar nominations for his work after Bond. Now that's a serious crime.
But as one of the commenters points out, his career didn't get its second wind until The Untouchables, 16 years after his last appearance as Bond. By that precedent, Pierce will have to wait until 2018.
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
User avatar
FormerBondFan
008
Posts: 6325
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Star Trek
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Harry Potter
Middle-Earth
The Matrix
Mission: Impossible
The Mummy
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Location: Southern CA

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by FormerBondFan »

Kristatos wrote:But as one of the commenters points out, his career didn't get its second wind until The Untouchables, 16 years after his last appearance as Bond.
Some of Sean's non-Bond films after DAF received nominations from the Oscars, and Pierce's post-Bond work didn't get any. Serious crime if you ask me.

The Untouchables was made 4 years after his unofficial Bond NSNA (which was #1 at the US box office for 4 weeks).
Image
katied

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by katied »

"Flatlining" is more like it. :mrgreen:
User avatar
Dr. No
006
Posts: 3453
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:28 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Dr. No
Favorite Movies: Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade
SpiderMan 2
Empire Strikes Back
Shawshank Redemption
Location: Crab Key

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Dr. No »

Pierce is doing better than Craig. He is everything Criag touches turns to you know what and Pierce is getting work doing all kinds of things which is what actors have to do. It is what Sean did, and Lazenby, Moore and Dalton fail to stay in the publics eye.
Image
Chief of Staff, 007's gone round the bend. Says someone's been trying to feed him a poisoned banana. Fellow's lost his nerve. Been in the hospital too long. Better call him home.
User avatar
FormerBondFan
008
Posts: 6325
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Star Trek
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Harry Potter
Middle-Earth
The Matrix
Mission: Impossible
The Mummy
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Location: Southern CA

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by FormerBondFan »

Dr. No wrote:Pierce is doing better than Craig. He is everything Criag touches turns to you know what and Pierce is getting work doing all kinds of things which is what actors have to do. It is what Sean did, and Lazenby, Moore and Dalton fail to stay in the publics eye.
But unlike Sean, Pierce hasn't had any post-Bond movies that is nominated by the Oscars. And I don't know why Pierce was cast in I Don't Know How She Does It.
Image
User avatar
Irony-man
New Recruit
Posts: 19
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:34 pm

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Irony-man »

Brosnan's career is doing fine. I think we may want to start comparing him more to Michael Caine than Connery. If you look at all the films he had been in since Bond the reviews are starting to show that he has the same effect on a film that Caine does, or even Christopher Walken and that is that whatever film he's in, despite the size of the role, he's often cited as being one of the best things in it. I think that what he has that Craig doesn't is charisma - that is shared by Caine and Walken and others who simply make any movie better while they are in it.

I have to say that if you haven't seen "The Ghost Writer" you should watch it. It's a terrific film and Brosnan owns it with performance. Why would he worry about being a leading man when he can get roles like this - much more interesting to play and to watch.

Even in the awful Sarah Jessica Parker film, his charisma was noticed by a number of reviewers, one even comparing him to Craig in that you actually forgot that he had been Bond as you watched his performance.
User avatar
FormerBondFan
008
Posts: 6325
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Star Trek
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Harry Potter
Middle-Earth
The Matrix
Mission: Impossible
The Mummy
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Location: Southern CA

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by FormerBondFan »

I hope Pierce will someday do something like Liam Neeson's Taken or The Rock (minus Michael Bay).
Image
User avatar
Powder Puff
Lieutenant
Posts: 97
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:28 am

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Powder Puff »

Daniel Craig's pre-Bond career was flat too......

Surely the Dragon Tatoo movie will be successful?

If not then the fellow should quit acting.
Image
User avatar
bjmdds
001
Posts: 14300
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:14 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Any without CR-egg in it.

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by bjmdds »

Tattoo film looks dread awful and will bomb in the USA.
Last edited by bjmdds on Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:55 am, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry
OO Moderator
OO Moderator
Posts: 2968
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:06 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Moonraker
Goldfinger
The Spy Who Loved Me
Favorite Movies: Raiders of the Lost Ark, Crazy For Christmas, The Empire Strikes Back, League of Gentlemen (1960's British film), Big Trouble in Little China, Police Academy 2, Carry On At Your Convenience, Commando, Halloween III: Season of the Witch,
Location: Terra

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry »

After Craig leaves Bond he will have all the future of a snowman in the Sahara desert.
Image
User avatar
James
OO Moderator
OO Moderator
Posts: 1593
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:14 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Favorite Movies: George A Romero's Dawn Of The Dead
Silent Running
Harold and Maude
Location: Europe and Outer Space

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by James »

Makes you wonder what he'd be doing now if he didn't know Barbara Broccoli.
"I can't do that superhero stuff" Daniel Craig
User avatar
bjmdds
001
Posts: 14300
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:14 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Any without CR-egg in it.

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by bjmdds »

bjmdds wrote:Tattoo film looks dread awful and will bomb in the USA.
And it did. DREADFUL is next prediction to bomb. FBF, you will be all smiles the weekend the vampires take over the box office in November.
User avatar
bjmdds
001
Posts: 14300
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:14 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Any without CR-egg in it.

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by bjmdds »

James wrote:Makes you wonder what he'd be doing now if he didn't know Barbara Broccoli.
He would be a soda jerk with a white hat on working at a malt shop.
User avatar
FormerBondFan
008
Posts: 6325
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Star Trek
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Harry Potter
Middle-Earth
The Matrix
Mission: Impossible
The Mummy
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Location: Southern CA

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by FormerBondFan »

bjmdds wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Tattoo film looks dread awful and will bomb in the USA.
And it did. DREADFUL is next prediction to bomb. FBF, you will be all smiles the weekend the vampires take over the box office in November.
It'll take more than just those vampires to destroy DC's Bond at the box office.
Image
User avatar
Kristatos
OO Moderator
OO Moderator
Posts: 12525
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:26 pm
Location: St. Cyril's

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Kristatos »

James wrote:Makes you wonder what he'd be doing now if he didn't know Barbara Broccoli.
TV and small-scale indie films probably.
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
User avatar
FormerBondFan
008
Posts: 6325
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Star Trek
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Harry Potter
Middle-Earth
The Matrix
Mission: Impossible
The Mummy
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Location: Southern CA

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by FormerBondFan »

Kristatos wrote:
James wrote:Makes you wonder what he'd be doing now if he didn't know Barbara Broccoli.
TV and small-scale indie films probably.
That doesn't seem as bad as Jerry Sadowitz's career, which is totally in the shadows where not many are familiar with his work.
Image
User avatar
Thunderpussy
Agent
Posts: 681
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:55 am
Favorite Bond Movie: OHMSS, Goldfinger, The spy who loved me,Tomorrow never dies.
Favorite Movies: Jaws, Die hard series,Independance day,The matrix trilogy

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Thunderpussy »

Just listening to "The Unbelievable Truth " ( a comedy quiz on BBC Radio 4 ) where the comedian Alan Davies ( TV's jonathan creek )
said he loved P Brosnan as Bond, then a couple of other panelists joined in saying how Bad the Bond films have become since
D Craig took over " What where they thinking " laughed one of the panel,
I think this shows ,even if it was a light hearted quizz. That most people think the films are getting worse and further from what
the public expect from a Bond film.
I'm sure the show would be available on BBC i-player, the exchange is near the end of the show.
User avatar
Omega
0010
Posts: 7304
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:01 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: TLD LTK GE TND TWINE DAD OHMSS
Favorite Movies: Gladiator
John Wick
Pacific Rim
LOTR trilogy
RED
Kingsman
X-Men First Class
X-Men Days of Futures Past
MI Rogue Nation
Location: the lost city
Contact:

Re: Craig’s Post-Bond Career? Flat. Very Flat.

Post by Omega »

Thunderpussy wrote:Just listening to "The Unbelievable Truth " ( a comedy quiz on BBC Radio 4 ) where the comedian Alan Davies ( TV's jonathan creek )
said he loved P Brosnan as Bond, then a couple of other panelists joined in saying how Bad the Bond films have become since
D Craig took over " What where they thinking " laughed one of the panel,
I think this shows ,even if it was a light hearted quizz. That most people think the films are getting worse and further from what
the public expect from a Bond film.
I'm sure the show would be available on BBC i-player, the exchange is near the end of the show.
I think more people are not happy with Craig but it one of those things that is somehow uncool to criticize, at some places but there are lot who will sound off about liking the old Bond better at various places.
............ :007:
Post Reply