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I think the daftest moment of the Craig era was at the end of Casino Royale when he mumbled "Bond, James Bond". :wink:
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The Saint 007 wrote:Pretty much every Bond era has had some crazy moments, and the Craig era is certainly no exception. I'm tired of people saying how Craig's Bond films are more realistic, when there are quite a few outlandish moments, as well as times where Craig's Bond seems overpowered.
Yep the fact that craigs bond can hulk smash through a wall in cr and people still call him the most realistic and gritty loses all meaning, just like the very stupid cgi parachute jump in qos or the fact he threw one of his so called friends into a dumpster after he died, at this rate james bond may as well be looking to take employment from nick fury not m16.
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and (putting aside the whole syfall lord of the manor nonsense) when they wheeled out Finney in a completely silly camo as the game keeper, and then he hand Craig "his" father's hunting rifle ... which is not a hunting rifle but a side by side shotgun . I bet he was quite some game keeper. _.///
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Welcome Derek! :cheers:
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Mumbling "I'm motivated by my duty" in Quantus of Solemn. God, how I hate THAT line, for being presented (and parroted by Craig-fanatics "elsewhere") as some kind of Bold Statement of Intent that must be worshiped instead of the whiny pouting of a pompous ass it actually is. :x
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Welcome to the forum Barry Niven! :cheers:
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Thank you very much. It's truly a pleasure to vent freely about grievances about this current run of so-called "James Bond" movies that seem to be trying too hard to convince the whole world that this Craig person is somehow the "Best Bond EVAH" because he's sooo "gritty", "hardcore" and (most laughably) REALISTIC. Sure he is. _.///
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Barry Niven wrote:Thank you very much. It's truly a pleasure to vent freely about grievances about this current run of so-called "James Bond" movies that seem to be trying too hard to convince the whole world that this Craig person is somehow the "Best Bond EVAH" because he's sooo "gritty", "hardcore" and (most laughably) REALISTIC. Sure he is. _.///
I also don't understand all this nonsense about Craig being the most hardcore and realistic in comparison to the former Bond actors either. As pointed out in this thread, there have been several outlandish moments in Craig's Bond films. His Bond is also very overpowered at times. And as for Craig being so macho and hardcore, I don't think so. He's a muscle-bound twerp who constantly pouts to make himself look tough, while he takes on these pathetically wimpy bad guys that you sometimes feel sorry for. At the beginning of Casino Royale, Craig's Bond pulverizes a scrawny guy in a washroom, who doesn't land a single hit on Craig as I recall, and shoots an old man sitting behind his desk. And that so-called "gritty" and "awesome" opening sequence was to show how macho man Craig Bond earned his double-0 statues. Congratulations, King Kong, you've just earned your double-0 statues by successfully killing a kitten and a couch. Let's see Craig's Bond go up against some larger-than-life villains like Oddjob and Jaws.
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The Saint 007 wrote:
Barry Niven wrote:Thank you very much. It's truly a pleasure to vent freely about grievances about this current run of so-called "James Bond" movies that seem to be trying too hard to convince the whole world that this Craig person is somehow the "Best Bond EVAH" because he's sooo "gritty", "hardcore" and (most laughably) REALISTIC. Sure he is. _.///
I also don't understand all this nonsense about Craig being the most hardcore and realistic in comparison to the former Bond actors either. As pointed out in this thread, there have been several outlandish moments in Craig's Bond films. His Bond is also very overpowered at times. And as for Craig being so macho and hardcore, I don't think so. He's a muscle-bound twerp who constantly pouts to make himself look tough, while he takes on these pathetically wimpy bad guys that you sometimes feel sorry for. At the beginning of Casino Royale, Craig's Bond pulverizes a scrawny guy in a washroom, who doesn't land a single hit on Craig as I recall, and shoots an old man sitting behind his desk. And that so-called "gritty" and "awesome" opening sequence was to show how macho man Craig Bond earned his double-0 statues. Congratulations, King Kong, you've just earned your double-0 statues by successfully killing a kitten and a couch. Let's see Craig's Bond go up against some larger-than-life villains like Oddjob and Jaws.
That's what Silva was intended to be (more like a larger-than-mastermind than a larger-than-life henchman a la Oddjob and Jaws).
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derekpayne wrote:and (putting aside the whole syfall lord of the manor nonsense) when they wheeled out Finney in a completely silly camo as the game keeper, and then he hand Craig "his" father's hunting rifle ... which is not a hunting rifle but a side by side shotgun . I bet he was quite some game keeper. _.///
Nope, was a rifle. An Anderson Wheeler in a .500 nitro express caliber. What is commonly referred to as an elephant gun.
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Nope, was a rifle. An Anderson Wheeler in a .500 nitro express caliber. What is commonly referred to as an elephant gun.
Because elephants are an ever-present risk in Scotland.
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The Saint 007 wrote:I also don't understand all this nonsense about Craig being the most hardcore and realistic in comparison to the former Bond actors either.
as compare to Roger Moore? or Brosnan? i agree with you Craig may be not MOST hardcore, but if we compare Craig performance with ROger "Clown" Moore or with Pretty Boy GQ model Brosnan, Craig are indeed more realistic than both of them, and more believable as secret agent than both of them
The Saint 007 wrote:As pointed out in this thread, there have been several outlandish moments in Craig's Bond films. .
Yes, but not as many as ROger and Brosnan
The Saint 007 wrote:His Bond is also very overpowered at times.
can you give me example?
The Saint 007 wrote:And as for Craig being so macho and hardcore, I don't think so. He's a muscle-bound twerp who constantly pouts to make himself look tough,
better than Brosnan who constantly make pain face to make himself try to look like an actor who can act (which he can't), and constantly grunt to make himself look tough
The Saint 007 wrote:while he takes on these pathetically wimpy bad guys that you sometimes feel sorry for.
Better than Brosnan Bond who fighting a russian woman, or fighting crumpy north korean general with robotic outfit, btw Brosnan is a pathetically wimpy Bond, anyone can beat him without a sweat!
The Saint 007 wrote:At the beginning of Casino Royale, Craig's Bond pulverizes a scrawny guy in a washroom,
Brosnan in Goldeneye ridiculously hanging upside down on toilet to punch russian losers,btw that scene was the most stupid scene for Bond showing his face for the first time to audience :happy spin:
The Saint 007 wrote:who doesn't land a single hit on Craig as I recall,
so? that scene showing Bond kill an informant not a bodyguard or something,and that scene choreograph beautifully better than whatever Brosnan wants to show to the audience (and fail pathetically)
The Saint 007 wrote: and shoots an old man sitting behind his desk.


i see nothing wrong with that, compare to Brosnan killing a woman and kiss her afterward ???
The Saint 007 wrote:And that so-called "gritty" and "awesome" opening sequence was to show how macho man Craig Bond earned his double-0 statues.


Indeed, those two scene were gritty and awesome, i can't imagine Brosnan (or even Cavill) doing it, can Brosnan convincingly us to show Bond strangle his enemy like Craig did? i doubt that, even Brosnan RE-attend acting course again he can't convince me in anything.
The Saint 007 wrote:Congratulations, King Kong, you've just earned your double-0 statues by successfully killing a kitten and a couch.
I see no king kong killing a kitten and a couch in Casino Royale 2006 :D what i saw is Bond manage his assignment well
The Saint 007 wrote: Let's see Craig's Bond go up against some larger-than-life villains like Oddjob and Jaws.
i hope that's not going to happen
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Kristatos wrote:
Gala Brand wrote:
Nope, was a rifle. An Anderson Wheeler in a .500 nitro express caliber. What is commonly referred to as an elephant gun.
Because elephants are an ever-present risk in Scotland.
No, elephants are native to Africa and Asia and are often found in a zoo. Scotland, not so much.
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Gala Brand wrote:
No, elephants are native to Africa and Asia and are often found in a zoo. Scotland, not so much.
I guess sensing sarcasm isn't your strong suit. Unless it's spelled out ad infinitum like this: _./// _./// _.///
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The Saint 007 wrote: At the beginning of Casino Royale, Craig's Bond pulverizes a scrawny guy in a washroom, who doesn't land a single hit on Craig as I recall, and shoots an old man sitting behind his desk. And that so-called "gritty" and "awesome" opening sequence was to show how macho man Craig Bond earned his double-0 statues. Congratulations, King Kong, you've just earned your double-0 statues by successfully killing a kitten and a couch. Let's see Craig's Bond go up against some larger-than-life villains like Oddjob and Jaws.
And just to add to the perpetually ongoing Worst/Daftest Moments choices, we have the fancy-pants "art-film" shot of a picture of the old man with his wife and kid being shown in a quick cut while he "violently" flies back in his chair after being shot by CraigBond. So basically, THIS Bond is supposed to be REALLY HARDCORE cuz he killed a family man! And a completely unarmed one since CraigBond removed the ammo clip long before the old guy reached for it in his desk.
Yeah, that's much better than the REAL Bond's execution of Professor Dent in Dr. No. _.// Pretentious eliteist posers.
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Barry Niven wrote:
Gala Brand wrote:
No, elephants are native to Africa and Asia and are often found in a zoo. Scotland, not so much.
I guess sensing sarcasm isn't your strong suit. Unless it's spelled out ad infinitum like this: _./// _./// _.///

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The elephant gun could be from a Bond ancestor..someone who was in a place(India during British rule perhaps) where elephants *were* a concern. :oops:
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Ah yes, it's tehmanis, who yet again dissects every little bit of my post with arguments that greatly consist of Brosnan bashing. :roll: Every Bond has had outlandish moments, and Craig is certainly no exception, as you can see by the many examples that have been listed in this thread. Smashing through a wall, ripping off a door handle with his bare hands, and flipping a motorcycle with a single swipe of his hand, are just a few examples of how Craig's Bond can be overpowered. I don't consider him to be anymore realistic than the others, nor do I consider him to be hardcore. The other Bonds didn't have to be muscle-bound macho men who constantly pout in order to be considered tough and cool. And Craig's Bond does mostly take on bad guys that are usually smaller/weaker than himself. And considering that the opening of Casino Royale was to show how Bond earned his double-0 statues, I found it rather underwhelming to say the least, although I never did lose sleep about wondering how Bond earned his double-0 statues.

But as much as I could go on about this, it's not going to really matter. All you will do is try to counter my arguments with the usual Pierce Brosnan bashing, and occasionally some Roger Moore bashing for good measure. You have your opinion and I have mine, and neither of us is going to change our mind about how we feel regarding this matter, so let's just leave it at that.
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But Craig is wicked serious. Real men cry yo. _./// Emotions is gritty dawg. :007:

Brosnan and Dalton had more colder blooded moments than Craig and never lost what made Bond Bond
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