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Raybradbury wrote:Casino Royale would make a fine movie if they actually make it like it was written.
Bond was not a inexperience baboon fresh to the service.
Bond has class, well polished mannerisms, well established habits, and a defined style.
Bond had his own high end car with his own custom gadgets modifying it and didn’t win it at poker.
Bond didn’t rent a Citroën or fly to the Bahamas after being told to disappear by M after a public screw up in Madagascar.

Bond’s first kill was smooth and professional. His second was a silent job involving a knife and a man who didn’t die quickly. Another professional job Bond surveyed the situation choosing when and where to attack the target.

Beyond how miscast Craig is there are huge discrepancies between the movie and the book.
Fair enough. I can appreciate your comments. Anyone who wants the films closer to the novels is ok in my book.... 8)
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What about The Martian Chronicles Ray, any thoughts on that too?
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I stumbled across this exceptional review. Probably the best review I've read on CR.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=26835
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Fine stuff. But "they're" going to come after us again -- what! James Bond should be good looking and every woman is supposed to melt!??!
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Commander 0077 wrote:Fine stuff. But "they're" going to come after us again -- what! James Bond should be good looking and every woman is supposed to melt!??!
The pro-Craig contingent have ditched their view that James Bond should not look like a male model. Many are advocating casting the likes of McAvoy, Cavill, Davenport should Craig exit the role.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote:Fine stuff. But "they're" going to come after us again -- what! James Bond should be good looking and every woman is supposed to melt!??!
The pro-Craig contingent have ditched their view that James Bond should not look like a male model. Many are advocating casting the likes of McAvoy, Cavill, Davenport should Craig exit the role.
I never believed Bond should look like someone from Abercrombie & Fitch. Connery and Dalton are handsome but could never pass a male model competition to save their lives. Bond should be handsome yet sharp and rugged like those two and I think Craig fits the bill. Obviously the ladies have no complaints.

At least not counting a vocal minority. :wink:
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I like smaller movies so loved some of Daniel Craig's other roles such as -Hotel Spendide, The Mother..... .But he is so wrong to play James Bond. They changed Bond so much that Casino Royale was not a James Bond movie. They changed the gunbarrel. The music. The look of James Bond. James Bond's personality. This is like a new spy movie, like Bourne, or Get Smart. It's not really James Bond. James Bond is handsome and debonair with dark hair. Craig as Bond, it's like Nero Wolfe being played by Michael J. Fox. Casino Royale is an average spy movie, but dull. I hope they make Bond Bond again soon. That means a guy other than Daniel Craig playing Bond.
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Mr. Big wrote:...it's like Nero Wolfe being played by Michael J. Fox.

That television series with Timothy Hutton was good fun. I think it was too expensive to make in the end.
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Not sure if this has been posted before, apologies if it has:

http://www.filmindustry.com/2007/07/requiem-for-a-bond/

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Kristatos wrote:Not sure if this has been posted before, apologies if it has:

http://www.filmindustry.com/2007/07/requiem-for-a-bond/

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The blog seems to be more focused on rather being anti-feminist, even though I don't see any feminist traits beside Dench's intro. He's boasting about how SPECTRE was run by men, despite the fact that women were working in SPECTRE. Hell, even curses Babs for including the torture scene. This guy clearly hasn't done his research, he was too busy looking at anything "feminist". :roll:
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stockslivevan wrote:The blog seems to be more focused on rather being anti-feminist, even though I don't see any feminist traits beside Dench's intro. He's boasting about how SPECTRE was run by men, despite the fact that women were working in SPECTRE. Hell, even curses Babs for including the torture scene. This guy clearly hasn't done his research, he was too busy looking at anything "feminist". :roll:
I think he has a point (I groaned at that "sexist, misogynist dinosaur" exchange myself), but that he devalues his case by overstating it. "Rampant homosexuality"? SPECTRE being too male? WTF?
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CR was a pretty homoerotic film, for James Bond.
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John Drake wrote:CR was a pretty homoerotic film, for James Bond.
There was one line of dialogue that could be interpreted as homoerotic. No worse than Rosa Klebb's obvious attraction to Tatiana in FRWL.
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Kristatos wrote:
John Drake wrote:CR was a pretty homoerotic film, for James Bond.
There was one line of dialogue that could be interpreted as homoerotic. No worse than Rosa Klebb's obvious attraction to Tatiana in FRWL.
The Independent (English) newspaper did call the Craig/Green shower scene "the most homoerotic scene in the history of British cinema".

Admittedly there was no Oliver Reed style wrestling in front of a fire!
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carl stromberg wrote:The Independent (English) newspaper did call the Craig/Green shower scene "the most homoerotic scene in the history of British cinema".
Since Craig and Green are of differing genders, how can it be homoerotic?
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I roll my eyes everytime someone think Craig pulling a Ursula Andress is homoerotic, despite the fact that it was meant for the female audience, not to mention you have Craig giving the busty Solange in a bikini the "Yeah, I'm gonna shag you" look. Gee, if that's homoerotic, then having Connery running around in trunks during most of Thunderball is probably the most homoerotic moment in Bond film history. :roll:
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stockslivevan wrote:I roll my eyes everytime someone think Craig pulling a Ursula Andress is homoerotic, despite the fact that it was meant for the female audience, not to mention you have Craig giving the busty Solange in a bikini the "Yeah, I'm gonna shag you" look. Gee, if that's homoerotic, then having Connery running around in trunks during most of Thunderball is probably the most homoerotic moment in Bond film history. :roll:

Oh, it was pretty homoerotic, although perhaps not in the strict dictionary definition of the word. It was just a bit weird.
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Terry wrote:Oh, it was pretty homoerotic, although perhaps not in the strict dictionary definition of the word.
So...what definition of the word are you using?
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I don't think anyone uses the "official" definition of "homoerotic" to be honest.

Connery in his tight trunks etc etc are termed "homoerotic" by some people.

Maybe you ought to start a campaign against the misuse of the word K.! :lol:

What phrase should be used instead?
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