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Post by Skywalker »

copper wrote:I am knew to this forum and,indeed, to this entire site. I am a life long bond fan having read the books and seen the films in the cinema since 1979.
That said, I have seen a lot of criticism thrown at the bond films throughout the years but never have I seen such a vitriolic and unsubstantiated attack on the leading actor as I have seen here on this site.
Wot are you trying to achieve? You don't like Craig. Live with it. People didn't like Moore or Dalton. Still made money and lots of us liked them.
Casino Royale made more money than any of the past Bonds so I think the concensus is with the paying public. Craig is a superb Bond and you lot gotta live with it cos the general public want to.
This site's pathetic attack on Craig (portraying him as a monkey in your sad "artwork") is really sad.
You lot are a tiny minority.
The world has sat and watched Casino Royale and passed it (generally) as the best Bond ever made. I concur.
Attacks on people's appearance harks back to the squalid vicorian days.
Craig is a brilliant actor who made Bond his own.
Is he ugly? If you think so, so what? He's Bond and proved it. To the millions of paying cinema-goers and critics alike.
It's just you lot, stewing in your own "he's not handsome enough" world that are the losers. Bond has moved on. Why can't you all do the same?
Oh, and looking at one of the articles on this site, Casino Royale does have a tremendous amount in common with the book. Research!!
My reply to you will be swift and to the point.

Why waste your time posting on here?
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The Sweeney wrote:
Raybradbury wrote::shock: New to the forum and site my ass. Another Craig troll :roll: wonder why he seems to attract them.

Fleming's books not only prove fracking Craig is miscast as Bond but as all other roles inside Mi6 everything except as a villain. Read Fleming! Bozo!

Where did Fleming write Bond as new agent? He DIDN'T!
Where did he write Mr. White?
Where did he write Le Chiffre as a terrorist banker?
Where did he write Bond playing poker?
Where did he write a Bond driving a Ford?
Where did he write a in dash defibrillator?
Where did he write a Montenegro casino?
Where did he write Bond having mysterious benefactors?
Where did he write Bond's disrespect for M
Where did he write Bond being SAS?
Where did he write Bond winning his car at poker?
Where did he write Bond getting his first tux?
Where did he write Le Chiffre being more important to M than Bond?
Where did he write Bond being clumsy football hoodlum?
Where did he write Bond in Madagascar?
Where did he write Bond being unprofessional?
You've clutched at straws there with that handful of desperate points as to why CR is nothing remotely like the novel.

The novel had to be updated to modern audiences - hence why some of those changes were enforced.

But the essence of the novel remains more or less in tact for the second part of the movie. If you think it doesn't, then perhaps you are in denial, or living in a tiny bubble.
Clutching the straw trying to claim Craig is anything like what Fleming wrote. The whole story of CR didn't show up on the screen.
It's sick the extremest wrap themselves in the flag and try to claim their fanatic belief is the true path. Like the Koran is distorted now by extremest wanting to end the word you lot distorted and warp his vision to support the unsupportable. Craig. A man accurately and vibrantly described by Fleming's descriptions. Descriptions of bad guys and thugs to be loathed.

Vespers betrayal is nothing like it was in the book. The end with the mysterious rescuer who was not explained, was an open story in the book.He told Bond who is was and why Bond wasn't Killed.

The lame car wreck was not the same in the book. The torture scene is not as Fleming wrote. Craig plays the dialogue all wrong. Goes to the base and avoids the truly heroic scene Bond accomplished in the book.

So the like minded jihad are here and don't like it when people disagree with interpretation provided by Barbara Broccoli.

Barbara's interpretation is not what was written. It is cheap and flimsy redress of standard far s**t churned out by Hollywood.
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Post by copper »

Exactly the response I expected.
Don't worry. I shall not be troubling you with my lucid and logical points again. Instead I shall let you all fumble in your pathetic, childish and illogical arguments.
I have never come across a so childishly bigoted site in my life. "Craig aint handsome" Boo hoo!
he aint suave (in your minds) Boo hoo!
You will achieve nothing by this site. NOTHING!
Wot is the point of your existence???
Craig is Bond whether you like it or not.
I see the articles on this pathetic site predicted Casinio Royale to be a flop...Oh dear... it's the most succesful Bond ever! Wonder why that was?
Maybe it's because the rest of society is not as closed minded as you lot and actually gives something new a chance.
You lot who set this idiotic site up are pathetic nobodys who can't get over the fact that bond is now a grittier and more accessible character.
Makes me wonder why you hold looks above acting ability. Hmmm.
Goodbye and hope you close down soon because you're pathetic. Truly and utterly pathetic.
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Oh, before I disappear forever, Thank you, Sweeney, a seemingly sane voice in a sea of inanity! 8)
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Post by Kristatos »

copper wrote:You will achieve nothing by this site. NOTHING!
Wot is the point of your existence???
You claim we're irrelevent, yet the fact that we exist clearly upsets you. There could be only one person in the world who dissents form the critical orthodoxy on CR, and the Craigish Inquisition would still be trying to assimilate him/her. It's like Lisa Simpson setting off the "INDEPENDENT THOUGHT ALARM" in her school.
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Post by copper »

Not at all.
I just think your entire existence (to oust an actor from a role) is misguided and very very childish as you will make no difference whatsover.
Craig is Bond. He will be for some time to come. The paying audience agree. Critics agree. Everybody agrees apart from you lot in your little hole wishing Brosnan would come back. Well he wont. So live with it.
Craig is Bond. You won't change it so why do you go on with your garabage like saying "he's ugly", "he looks like a monkey", "he ain't in Fleming's image"??? Everybody said Connery looked like a truck driver! including Fleming himself and then he was swayed by the performance.
Well, pals, the entire world has been swayed by Craig and you are the only ones that don't get it.
I said goodbye a while ago but this really is it. This site is really the pits of humanity. You have no humanity. You exist to denigrate, to find fault where none can be found.
This site disgusts and disturbs me.
Whoever brought this site into being is a truly sad individual and the rest of you who agree with this dissing of craig are the same. Why can't you admit you are wrong?
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Post by copper »

Raybradbury wrote::shock: New to the forum and site my ass. Another Craig troll :roll: wonder why he seems to attract them.

Fleming's books not only prove fracking Craig is miscast as Bond but as all other roles inside Mi6 everything except as a villain. Read Fleming! Bozo!

Where did Fleming write Bond as new agent? He DIDN'T!
Where did he write Mr. White?
Where did he write Le Chiffre as a terrorist banker?
Where did he write Bond playing poker?
Where did he write a Bond driving a Ford?
Where did he write a in dash defibrillator?
Where did he write a Montenegro casino?
Where did he write Bond having mysterious benefactors?
Where did he write Bond's disrespect for M
Where did he write Bond being SAS?
Where did he write Bond winning his car at poker?
Where did he write Bond getting his first tux?
Where did he write Le Chiffre being more important to M than Bond?
Where did he write Bond being clumsy football hoodlum?
Where did he write Bond in Madagascar?
Where did he write Bond being unprofessional?


live life in your tiny bubble and keep on trying to bully your way through life. You're your own kind of terrorists there bub.

you are going to have live with the fact there are people who don't like Craig.
If Bond were cast as a Yank and they dubbed in the voice I'd imagine you'd be pissed and be ranting and raving about not being what Fleming wrote.
I am new to the forum despite wot you may think but I goin quickly as I have seen far too much utter s**t written on this travesty of a website. Total bollocks! misguided, prejudiced crap. Enjoy yourself,
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copper wrote:
Raybradbury wrote::shock: New to the forum and site my ass. Another Craig troll :roll: wonder why he seems to attract them.

Fleming's books not only prove fracking Craig is miscast as Bond but as all other roles inside Mi6 everything except as a villain. Read Fleming! Bozo!

Where did Fleming write Bond as new agent? He DIDN'T!
Where did he write Mr. White?
Where did he write Le Chiffre as a terrorist banker?
Where did he write Bond playing poker?
Where did he write a Bond driving a Ford?
Where did he write a in dash defibrillator?
Where did he write a Montenegro casino?
Where did he write Bond having mysterious benefactors?
Where did he write Bond's disrespect for M
Where did he write Bond being SAS?
Where did he write Bond winning his car at poker?
Where did he write Bond getting his first tux?
Where did he write Le Chiffre being more important to M than Bond?
Where did he write Bond being clumsy football hoodlum?
Where did he write Bond in Madagascar?
Where did he write Bond being unprofessional?


live life in your tiny bubble and keep on trying to bully your way through life. You're your own kind of terrorists there bub.

you are going to have live with the fact there are people who don't like Craig.
If Bond were cast as a Yank and they dubbed in the voice I'd imagine you'd be pissed and be ranting and raving about not being what Fleming wrote.
I am new to the forum despite wot you may think but I goin quickly as I have seen far too much utter s**t written on this travesty of a website. Total bollocks! misguided, prejudiced crap. Enjoy yourself, dick head!
Not only are you lier, you are a suck up and a toady.
You are bitching about s**t that is not even on the homepage and we are supposed to believe you aren't a pathetic troll looking for praise from your buddies by coming here and attempting to start s**t.

This hive mind bulls**t is not going to fly here. "I'm going now because you to blah blah blah." You are f**king plant and sad little fanboi.
You came to start s**t and that is what you are.
You didn't answer one criticism cogently. Instead you drop an attitude and fain to be hurt and offended. A real man would stand his ground and make reason argument, not this hit and run bulls**t.
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The 2 offenders have been warned.
Further violations may result in suspensions.

Please keep your comments clean.
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Raybradbury wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Raybradbury wrote::shock: New to the forum and site my ass. Another Craig troll :roll: wonder why he seems to attract them.

Fleming's books not only prove fracking Craig is miscast as Bond but as all other roles inside Mi6 everything except as a villain. Read Fleming! Bozo!

Where did Fleming write Bond as new agent? He DIDN'T!
Where did he write Mr. White?
Where did he write Le Chiffre as a terrorist banker?
Where did he write Bond playing poker?
Where did he write a Bond driving a Ford?
Where did he write a in dash defibrillator?
Where did he write a Montenegro casino?
Where did he write Bond having mysterious benefactors?
Where did he write Bond's disrespect for M
Where did he write Bond being SAS?
Where did he write Bond winning his car at poker?
Where did he write Bond getting his first tux?
Where did he write Le Chiffre being more important to M than Bond?
Where did he write Bond being clumsy football hoodlum?
Where did he write Bond in Madagascar?
Where did he write Bond being unprofessional?
You've clutched at straws there with that handful of desperate points as to why CR is nothing remotely like the novel.

The novel had to be updated to modern audiences - hence why some of those changes were enforced.

But the essence of the novel remains more or less in tact for the second part of the movie. If you think it doesn't, then perhaps you are in denial, or living in a tiny bubble.
Clutching the straw trying to claim Craig is anything like what Fleming wrote. The whole story of CR didn't show up on the screen.
It's sick the extremest wrap themselves in the flag and try to claim their fanatic belief is the true path. Like the Koran is distorted now by extremest wanting to end the word you lot distorted and warp his vision to support the unsupportable. Craig. A man accurately and vibrantly described by Fleming's descriptions. Descriptions of bad guys and thugs to be loathed.

Vespers betrayal is nothing like it was in the book. The end with the mysterious rescuer who was not explained, was an open story in the book.He told Bond who is was and why Bond wasn't Killed.

The lame car wreck was not the same in the book. The torture scene is not as Fleming wrote. Craig plays the dialogue all wrong. Goes to the base and avoids the truly heroic scene Bond accomplished in the book.

So the like minded jihad are here and don't like it when people disagree with interpretation provided by Barbara Broccoli.

Barbara's interpretation is not what was written. It is cheap and flimsy redress of standard far s**t churned out by Hollywood.
Bond is assigned to play Le Chiffre at cards in a casino to try and stop him winning money to pay off his debts, so Bond can clean him out (check).

Bond almost gets killed by Le Chiffre during the card game (check).

Bond is working alongside Mathis and Vesper during this (check).

Bond gets cleaned out by Le Chiffre at cards (check).

Bond then gets rescued by Felix Leiter with more funds (check).

Bond beats Le Chiffre at cards (check).

Bond and Vesper eat/drink and celebrate. Vesper suddenly leaves after a message from Mathis (check).

Vesper his kidnapped and thrown in the back of a car. Bond realises there is a set-up, and runs out after them. A car chase pursues (check).

Bond crashes from an obstacle in the road (in the book it was nails I think. Putting Vesper there is more cinematic) - check.

Bond is captured, stripped naked, tied to a seatless chair and tortured (check).

Bond is rescued by Le Chiffre being shot in the head by the organisation he owed money to (check).

Bond recovers in hospital (check).

Bond and Vesper spend time together and (we presume) fall in love (check).

Vesper is followed BY Gettler, and she suspects this (check).

Vesper commits suicide, Bond realises he has been betrayed and utters the line to M `the bitch is dead.' (check).


I admit the ending is very different to the novel. I would have preferred the downbeat ending from the book, but I understand with today's audiences they would expect more, so understand why they included the Venice finale. SMERSH is also not the organisation behind Le Chiffre, but again, this has had to be updated to modern times. SMERSH wasn't even the organisation behind FRWL back in 63 - it was SPECTRE. The producers knew back then that they couldn't always stick rigid to Fleming - hence why we also had a speedboat chase in FRWL, something Fleming never wrote about.

Bond driving a Ford, dash defibrillators, playing poker and Montenegro casinos is splitting hairs in the extreme. Get out of your bubble, take your head out of the sandpit, or wherever you have been hiding. You may think Craig is the wrong choice to play Bond, fine, but to think CR could have been more like the book is, quite frankly pathetic. The book was hardly that cinematic to begin with, probably the least cinematic book he wrote. I think the producers did an admirable job adapting a novel written in 1952, to play to audiences in 2006, who have grown up expecting silly CGI, naff one-liners, flying lasers and ridiculous OTT action from their Bond films.

I suppose you will criticize the producers too then for making YOLT, DAF, LALD, TMWTGG, TSWLM, MR, OP and AVTAK nothing like the novels Fleming wrote?
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suspended? What do they turn in their badge and their gun?? :lol:

comeon guys, its only a movie. If like me you don't like it fine, no need to be rude. If like Sweeney you do like it fine, but there is no need to be rude.
I don't see the pont posting here if your only intent is to be a jerk. It make whatever you were trying to say pointless when it littered with personal atacks.
Fans on both sides look bad when people act like this. If you can't figure taht out you probably shouldn't be posting

Bringing up the koran is going to get us all bombed ;) please be respectful. :D

ps i know islam is a religion of peace its just that right nowpeople are a little too touchy.
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Dr. No wrote:suspended? What do they turn in their badge and their gun?? :lol:

comeon guys, its only a movie. If like me you don't like it fine, no need to be rude. If like Sweeney you do like it fine, but there is no need to be rude.
I don't see the pont posting here if your only intent is to be a jerk. It make whatever you were trying to say pointless when it littered with personal atacks.
Fans on both sides look bad when people act like this. If you can't figure taht out you probably shouldn't be posting

Bringing up the koran is going to get us all bombed ;) please be respectful. :D

ps i know islam is a religion of peace its just that right nowpeople are a little too touchy.
Well said, Doctor.
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Raybradbury wrote:
copper wrote:
Raybradbury wrote::shock: New to the forum and site my ass. Another Craig troll :roll: wonder why he seems to attract them.

Fleming's books not only prove fracking Craig is miscast as Bond but as all other roles inside Mi6 everything except as a villain. Read Fleming! Bozo!

Where did Fleming write Bond as new agent? He DIDN'T!
Where did he write Mr. White?
Where did he write Le Chiffre as a terrorist banker?
Where did he write Bond playing poker?
Where did he write a Bond driving a Ford?
Where did he write a in dash defibrillator?
Where did he write a Montenegro casino?
Where did he write Bond having mysterious benefactors?
Where did he write Bond's disrespect for M
Where did he write Bond being SAS?
Where did he write Bond winning his car at poker?
Where did he write Bond getting his first tux?
Where did he write Le Chiffre being more important to M than Bond?
Where did he write Bond being clumsy football hoodlum?
Where did he write Bond in Madagascar?
Where did he write Bond being unprofessional?


live life in your tiny bubble and keep on trying to bully your way through life. You're your own kind of terrorists there bub.

you are going to have live with the fact there are people who don't like Craig.
If Bond were cast as a Yank and they dubbed in the voice I'd imagine you'd be pissed and be ranting and raving about not being what Fleming wrote.
I am new to the forum despite wot you may think but I goin quickly as I have seen far too much utter s**t written on this travesty of a website. Total bollocks! misguided, prejudiced crap. Enjoy yourself, dick head!
Not only are you lier, you are a suck up and a toady.
You are bitching about s**t that is not even on the homepage and we are supposed to believe you aren't a pathetic troll looking for praise from your buddies by coming here and attempting to start s**t.

This hive mind bulls**t is not going to fly here. "I'm going now because you to blah blah blah." You are f**king plant and sad little fanboi.
You came to start s**t and that is what you are.
You didn't answer one criticism cogently. Instead you drop an attitude and fain to be hurt and offended. A real man would stand his ground and make reason argument, not this hit and run bulls**t.
Deary me! Oh goodness! I returned, possibly just to annoy you fools who can't even argue in a cogent way.
The amount of swearing you placed in your post only reinforces my thinking about this unjustified Craig bashing. Illiterate and unable to spell the most basic of words. "Craig as King Kong?" Have a little look in the mirror, sweetie.
At least when I swear (which I totally apologise for) I spell it right.
And anyhow, what makes you think I'm a man?
As for your lovely comments, what criticisms didn't I answer? Wasn't aware any had come my way. Thought it was mine to you. Are you drunk?
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CR is perhaps the worst Bondfilm, and Craig is ,by ease, the worst James Bond. CR and Craig are more Jack Bauer then James Bond.
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Welcome Rog!
Bring back Bond!
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Thanks, Stromberg!
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copper wrote:
Raybradbury wrote:
copper wrote:
Raybradbury wrote::shock: New to the forum and site my ass. Another Craig troll :roll: wonder why he seems to attract them.

Fleming's books not only prove fracking Craig is miscast as Bond but as all other roles inside Mi6 everything except as a villain. Read Fleming! Bozo!

Where did Fleming write Bond as new agent? He DIDN'T!
Where did he write Mr. White?
Where did he write Le Chiffre as a terrorist banker?
Where did he write Bond playing poker?
Where did he write a Bond driving a Ford?
Where did he write a in dash defibrillator?
Where did he write a Montenegro casino?
Where did he write Bond having mysterious benefactors?
Where did he write Bond's disrespect for M
Where did he write Bond being SAS?
Where did he write Bond winning his car at poker?
Where did he write Bond getting his first tux?
Where did he write Le Chiffre being more important to M than Bond?
Where did he write Bond being clumsy football hoodlum?
Where did he write Bond in Madagascar?
Where did he write Bond being unprofessional?


live life in your tiny bubble and keep on trying to bully your way through life. You're your own kind of terrorists there bub.

you are going to have live with the fact there are people who don't like Craig.
If Bond were cast as a Yank and they dubbed in the voice I'd imagine you'd be pissed and be ranting and raving about not being what Fleming wrote.
I am new to the forum despite wot you may think but I goin quickly as I have seen far too much utter s**t written on this travesty of a website. Total bollocks! misguided, prejudiced crap. Enjoy yourself, dick head!
Not only are you lier, you are a suck up and a toady.
You are bitching about s**t that is not even on the homepage and we are supposed to believe you aren't a pathetic troll looking for praise from your buddies by coming here and attempting to start s**t.

This hive mind bulls**t is not going to fly here. "I'm going now because you to blah blah blah." You are f**king plant and sad little fanboi.
You came to start s**t and that is what you are.
You didn't answer one criticism cogently. Instead you drop an attitude and fain to be hurt and offended. A real man would stand his ground and make reason argument, not this hit and run bulls**t.
Deary me! Oh goodness! I returned, possibly just to annoy you fools who can't even argue in a cogent way.
The amount of swearing you placed in your post only reinforces my thinking about this unjustified Craig bashing. Illiterate and unable to spell the most basic of words. "Craig as King Kong?" Have a little look in the mirror, sweetie.
At least when I swear (which I totally apologise for) I spell it right.
And anyhow, what makes you think I'm a man?
As for your lovely comments, what criticisms didn't I answer? Wasn't aware any had come my way. Thought it was mine to you. Are you drunk?
“Craig is as king kong” who the f**k brought that up? If you talking about the front page you don’t even know what is on it.
Look in the mirror. We’re the same babe.
You came here to be ugly and ugly you are.
I gave you a list of Craig’s shortcomings that somebody better than you actually responded to it and you continued with your childish rant.
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The Sweeney wrote:Bond is assigned to play Le Chiffre at cards in a casino to try and stop him winning money to pay off his debts, so Bond can clean him out (check).
S comes up with a plan sells it to M not knowing his underling already gave the game away?
Sends Bond to clean out Le Chiffre so he will be killed?
Bond must be good at card because he monitored a Casino in Monte Carlo for months watching cheaters with their glasses and invisible ink?
Bond explains the odds of baccarat to M’s cold eyes?
Bond requests Mathis?


Bond almost gets killed by Le Chiffre during the card game (check).
Bond lamely drinks poisoned drink. Where’s the thug with the Malacca stick to his back? Where’s the feat of cunning and athleticism escaping it while Leiter was distracted by Vesper?

Bond is working alongside Mathis and Vesper during this (check).
Where’s Mathis in Bond room telling him his cover is blown?
Where’s Mathis introducing Vesper?




Bond gets cleaned out by Le Chiffre at cards (check).
Bond gets cleaned out by Le Chiffre at Baccarat?
Bond finds Le Chiffre’s poker tell?


Bond then gets rescued by Felix Leiter with more funds (check).
Bond argues with Vesper for more funds?
Bond leaves the table meets Leiter in hurried manner and agrees to hand over Le Chiffre?


Bond beats Le Chiffre at cards (check).
Where’s a whisper of love, a whisper of hate?
Where’s the skill and risk management? The thought weighing every move.


Bond and Vesper eat/drink and celebrate. Vesper suddenly leaves after a message from Mathis (check).
Vesper calls M to tell HIM the result of the game?
Bond is frustrated and eats in silence?
Bond realizes the note to vesper is odd? Not like Mathis HE knows?


Vesper his kidnapped and thrown in the back of a car. Bond realises there is a set-up, and runs out after them. A car chase pursues (check).
Bond writes off Vesper’s life?

Bond crashes from an obstacle in the road (in the book it was nails I think. Putting Vesper there is more cinematic) - check.
Vesper in the middle of the road was lame. The gadget Le Chiffre use in the book was cooler and more cinematic. Chain nails wasn’t it?

Bond is captured, stripped naked, tied to a seatless chair and tortured (check).
Le Chiffre complements Bond on his body?
Bond laughs at Le Chiffre as they talk about Red Indians and ball scratching?
Le Chiffre talks intelligently trying to coax Bond?
Bond room was searched toughly finding almost all his finding places before kidnapping Vesper?
Bond threatens Le Chiffre while telling him he'll die ball scratching?
No the book has a more intense more cinematic dialogue and action.


Bond is rescued by Le Chiffre being shot in the head by the organisation he owed money to (check).
Who the hell did shoot Le Chiffre? SMERSH? African terrorists?
Le Chiffre death is a mission failure because Le Chiffre was more important to M than Bond?
SMERSH fulfils Bond’s mission by causing the Russians to kill Le Chiffre.

Bond recovers in hospital (check).
Bond has a long hart to hart with Mathis?


Bond and Vesper spend time together and (we presume) fall in love (check).
Vesper shies away from Bond?
Vesper cries when she realises Bond would have married her.

Vesper is followed BY Gettler, and she suspects this (check).
Gettler in Venice was lame. Gettler was a more menacing shadow figure in the book.

Vesper commits suicide, Bond realises he has been betrayed and utters the line to M `the bitch is dead.' (check).
Vesper commits suicide in front of Bond’s eyes while he is trying to save her?
Bond reads Vesper’s suicide note and puts together all of the suspicious things Vesper did?


I admit the ending is very different to the novel. I would have preferred the downbeat ending from the book, but I understand with today's audiences they would expect more, so understand why they included the Venice finale. SMERSH is also not the organisation behind Le Chiffre, but again, this has had to be updated to modern times. SMERSH wasn't even the organisation behind FRWL back in 63 - it was SPECTRE. The producers knew back then that they couldn't always stick rigid to Fleming - hence why we also had a speedboat chase in FRWL, something Fleming never wrote about.

Bond driving a Ford, dash defibrillators, playing poker and Montenegro casinos is splitting hairs in the extreme. Get out of your bubble, take your head out of the sandpit, or wherever you have been hiding. You may think Craig is the wrong choice to play Bond, fine, but to think CR could have been more like the book is, quite frankly pathetic. The book was hardly that cinematic to begin with, probably the least cinematic book he wrote. I think the producers did an admirable job adapting a novel written in 1952, to play to audiences in 2006, who have grown up expecting silly CGI, naff one-liners, flying lasers and ridiculous OTT action from their Bond films.
I suppose you will criticize the producers too then for making YOLT, DAF, LALD, TMWTGG, TSWLM, MR, OP and AVTAK nothing like the novels Fleming wrote?
I have for years now at various forums.

Casino Royale would make a fine movie if they actually make it like it was written.
Bond was not a inexperience baboon fresh to the service.
Bond has class, well polished mannerisms, well established habits, and a defined style.
Bond had his own high end car with his own custom gadgets modifying it and didn’t win it at poker.
Bond didn’t rent a Citroën or fly to the Bahamas after being told to disappear by M after a public screw up in Madagascar.

Bond’s first kill was smooth and professional. His second was a silent job involving a knife and a man who didn’t die quickly. Another professional job Bond surveyed the situation choosing when and where to attack the target.

Beyond how miscast Craig is there are huge discrepancies between the movie and the book.
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copper wrote:Not at all.
I just think your entire existence (to oust an actor from a role) is misguided and very very childish as you will make no difference whatsover.
Craig is Bond. He will be for some time to come. The paying audience agree. Critics agree. Everybody agrees apart from you lot in your little hole wishing Brosnan would come back. Well he wont. So live with it.
Craig is Bond. You won't change it so why do you go on with your garabage like saying "he's ugly", "he looks like a monkey", "he ain't in Fleming's image"??? Everybody said Connery looked like a truck driver! including Fleming himself and then he was swayed by the performance.
Well, pals, the entire world has been swayed by Craig and you are the only ones that don't get it.
I said goodbye a while ago but this really is it. This site is really the pits of humanity. You have no humanity. You exist to denigrate, to find fault where none can be found.
This site disgusts and disturbs me.
Whoever brought this site into being is a truly sad individual and the rest of you who agree with this dissing of craig are the same. Why can't you admit you are wrong?
I think we are intitled to our opinion just as you are entitled to yours.
I am pleased you liked Craig and film but many of the posters here didnt and feel just in expressing that view but i think the site and this forum are about the preservation of James Bond and the previous twenty odd classic movies. Every Bond fan is mdde to feel welcome here we do have pro craigers who post here and there i good debate. long may it continue i hope and wish you can accept us as a valid voice in the Bond community :D
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There seems to be a 'disturbance in the force' here lately. Can you sense it? Young Skywalker may have to be called in to restore balance to the force here.
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