"Quantum of Solace Becomes Top Bond of All Time"

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"Quantum of Solace Becomes Top Bond of All Time"

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Quantum of Solace Becomes Top Bond of All Time
Source: Columbia Pictures
January 8, 2009


At the motion picture box office, there is one man who keeps showing that nobody does it better: Bond. James Bond.

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures'/Columbia Pictures' Quantum of Solace, the 22nd James Bond adventure, has taken in over $167.1 million to become the most successful Bond film of all time in North America, surpassing the $167 million grossed domestically by Casino Royale, it was announced today by Jeff Blake, chairman of Sony Pictures Worldwide Marketing and Distribution. The film is still playing in 891 theaters in the United States.

In addition, Quantum of Solace has grossed another $382.9 internationally, with the important market of Japan still yet to open. Taking in a worldwide gross so far of $550 million, Quantum of Solace is already the second-highest grossing Bond film of all time worldwide, trailing just "Casino's" $594.2 million.

Commenting on the announcement, Blake said, "It is always gratifying when the audience responds to a film, but to be working with a character as successful as James Bond and see the two films Sony has handled become the two most successful films in the history of the franchise makes us all tremendously proud. It has been a special thrill to work on the Bond films, and we couldn't be more excited by the success of 'Quantum of Solace.'"
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51787
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Why bother posting a press release from Sony/Columbia pictures?
The fact remains Quark fails to beat CRs or DADs BO take. Pretty miserable for movie that is as expensive and as hyped as Quark is as well as being voted to the top of the worst films of 2008 on many lists.
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You can bet it's a banner day at certain Bond messageboards . :?
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katied wrote:You can bet it's a banner day at certain Bond messageboards . :?
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Stating the obvious :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Mazer Rackham wrote:voted to the top of the worst films of 2008 on many lists.
What lists? FOX? :lol:
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Is it true, or is this not inflation adjusted? Has it topped CR and DAD in the US? Looks like Craig has become a popular Bond in the US. :shock:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111799 ... =1082&cs=1
Sony and MGM's "Quantum of Solace" has surpassed previous installment "Casino Royale" to become the top-grossing James Bond pic of all time at the North American box office.
"Quantum" reached the milestone Wednesday, posting a cume of $167.1 million, according to Rentrak. "Casino Royale" cumed $167 million.

"Quantum" is nearing the end of its theatrical run, but continues to play in nearly 900 theaters.

Overseas, "Quantum" -- which has yet to bow in Japan -- has grossed $382.9 million.

MGM now takes over the Bond franchise.
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*cue the many posts pointing out that it lost money, had the worst reviews ever and how Craig isn't James Bond, end of the world type nonsense*
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stockslivevan wrote:*cue the many posts pointing out that it lost money, had the worst reviews ever and how Craig isn't James Bond, end of the world type nonsense*
No need, they're all on the other thread from the last time this press release was posted. So, go ahead and pop the champagne to celebrate the fact that, at the very end of its run, a film that cost a third more to make than CR and had the advantages of a shorter running time and two years of ticket price inflation managed to just squeak past CR's box office by $100,000.
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Kristatos wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:*cue the many posts pointing out that it lost money, had the worst reviews ever and how Craig isn't James Bond, end of the world type nonsense*
No need, they're all on the other thread from the last time this press release was posted. So, go ahead and pop the champagne to celebrate the fact that, at the very end of its run, a film that cost a third more to make than CR and had the advantages of a shorter running time and two years of ticket price inflation managed to just squeak past CR's box office by $100,000.
And if the film flopped big time, was the lowest taking Bond film ever, I'm sure there would be sounds of champagne corks being popped very loudly on here too. Doom-and-gloom merchants predicted Craig would fail as Bond with the general public before the release of CR back in 2006, then had to change their argument to `y...y...yes, but you wait until the second outing for Craig as Bond. That will definitely fail at the BO. People only flocked to see CR out of mere curiosity, nothing more', etc. This time round that curiosity argument is no longer valid. The opening weekend figures speak volumes about how the public took to Craig in CR, both here in the UK and over in the US.

QoS was not a spectacular film. It will be interesting to see how well Bond 23 now does, in spite of the inferior quality of Craig's second movie. If Bond 23 equals, or supasses QoS and CR, I think you guys may as well shut up shop here. :wink:
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>So, go ahead and pop the champagne to celebrate the fact that, at the very end of its run, a film that cost a third more to >make than CR and had the advantages of a shorter running time and two years of ticket price inflation managed to just >squeak past CR's box office by $100,000.

Hey, could be worse - it could have cost 85% more than the previous film, and grossed 5% less (without even adjusting for inflation) - like a certain other actor's second Bond film. I won't name him, but you can guess who it is. (Hint - all of his Bond pictures sold less tickets than Craig's, when all said and done, and he can't sing)
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>It lost money

It didn't.

>It had the worst reviews ever

Compared to TND, TWINE and DAD? Looks Oscar worthy in comparison.
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crusading_saint wrote:Hey, could be worse - it could have cost 85% more than the previous film, and grossed 5% less (without even adjusting for inflation) - like a certain other actor's second Bond film. I won't name him, but you can guess who it is. (Hint - all of his Bond pictures sold less tickets than Craig's, when all said and done, and he can't sing)
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Just as well it wasn't up against the biggest grossing film of all time then (except in the UK).
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It didn't. TND and Titanic only went head to head in one market - the US. Titanic's worldwide release was staggered throughout the next few weeks and months worldwide, as was TND's, and it was TND's worldwide gross that fell, not the US gross. (It fell more than $35m)
Also, Titanic's presence in theaters was of no consequence to other movies - especially when you consider it did not make that much money in theaters each week - no more than $35m in it's biggest week. Other movies still had plenty of theaters to open in - TND was given the same wide release as any other Bond film.
It was the Titanic's legs that gave it its huge gross, not huge weekend grosses. By the time Titanic started breaking records, TND was gone and forgotten.
So, no, that didn't make a lick of difference. In fact, it may even have helped. Box office analysts claim that huge blockbusters tend to help the movies around them, as they energize people into going to the theaters again, not just to see the blockbuster, but in general. TND may even have benefited from Titanic - which makes it's grosses even more disappointing.
Nice try to excuse Pierce's extremely disappointing second outing, though. :)
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crusading_saint wrote:It didn't. TND and Titanic only went head to head in one market
They were days a part in some markets.For a similar contest Qos needed to be up against Dark Knight.Overall Craigs movies have had little to no competition.
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As pointed out - Titanic was not a harm to other movies in the theaters at the same time - it was in a normal # of screens, and was posting solid, but unspectacular numbers. It was only the fact that it posted solid numbers for months at a time that gave it it's high numbers.
Taking the US as an example - Titanic and TND both debuted with almost identical numbers - $28 vs $25 - and let's not forget - TND is playing in MORE THEATERS - Titanic opened less wide! One keeps the same numbers up, one sinks fairly quickly. Titanic did not open huge and steal business away - it just kept attracting the same sorts of numbers for weeks on end. Both movies had more than a fair chance in theaters - one was just much more popular.
And you're fudging the truth a little with your "days" comment - what you mean, and what I already said, was that Titanic and TND did not go head to head in most markets - TND usually had a week or more of completely competition free release before Titanic opens, by which point TND had already disappointed, and as I have already pointed out - Titanic does not open huge, stealing business - it opens respectably and stays there.
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Nice insight, crusading saint. It's good to have another pro-Craiger on here who knows more about the workings of the BO than I do.
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Thank you!
As far as QOS goes, I could have predicted that it would gross less than CR for the simple reason that almost every actor's second Bond does not gross as much as the first. For example:

The Man with the Golden Gun's gross was down almost 40% on Live and Let Die (!)
Licence To Kill's gross was down 20% on The Living Daylights
Tomorrow Never Die's gross was down 5% on Goldeneye
Quantum of Solace's (projected) gross will be down around 3% on Casino Royale

So Craig's doing pretty well in comparison :). The only actor to avoid that is Sean Connery. And, as I mentioned, the budget hike for this film was nowhere near the hike between GE and TND, so...
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crusading_saint wrote: Tomorrow Never Die's gross was down 5% on Goldeneye
Quantum of Solace's (projected) gross will be down around 3% on Casino Royale

So Craig's doing pretty well in comparison :). The only actor to avoid that is Sean Connery. And, as I mentioned, the budget hike for this film was nowhere near the hike between GE and TND, so...
Ummmm, Not really $260m was spent out of pocket, some of that might be recovered to bring it closer to 220m .
The total budget for CR was about 150m, the sequel got 260m, of course not counting the advertising cost Sony tacks on of at least 100m.
Quark is a bloated beast, 110m more than its predecessor, TND was about 50m more than its predecessor, which is the neighborhood of where they kept the spending for the next 10 years.

They need to keep the cost down to around GE numbers, and they can still make quality movies, but for whatever reasons they don't chose to.
Quark will be lucky to reach 82m tickets sold
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crusading_saint wrote:As pointed out - Titanic was not a harm to other movies in the theaters at the same time - it was in a normal # of screens, and was posting solid, but unspectacular numbers. It was only the fact that it posted solid numbers for months at a time that gave it it's high numbers.
Taking the US as an example - Titanic and TND both debuted with almost identical numbers - $28 vs $25.
Titanic is a monster film that still hold records today in 1997 dollars. (Cameron got very lucky after spending as much as he did to make it.) I mean the second weekend it actually increased its percentage after adding less than 40 theaters, taking home $35m the second weekend, 33m its third and 36m its 6th weekend, not dropping below 20m until march 1st.
The bright side to TND was it only lost 19% over opening weekend. But Titanic definitely would have had an effect on other movies theater take in 1997-1998, it was a hurricane on lake, at least in markets where they were close to one anther. Titanic was unique, something all movie makers dream of doing.

TND did good on its own, might have done better without the leviathan hogging the sunlight but it shouldn't be compared to Titanic.
I don't know what the point of comparing them is. To say TND did well against a record smashing movie, fine. To say TND fought for his place and Quark hasn't, maybe but movies generally don't pull each other out of orbit. Titanic had an unusual draw and made records but couldn't cripple Bond or any other movies. There may be point to perhaps the opening weekend being stronger. Possibly the over all take being stronger.
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