Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

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Postby katied » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:47 am

Well, there *is* a faction of fans that go along with the claim that Bond is a code name...I don't,though. :down:
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby X3C » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:18 am

katied wrote:Well, there *is* a faction of fans that go along with the claim that Bond is a code name...I don't,though. :down:


Just like "From Russia With Love" - "Bond" is killed at the beginning.
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby katied » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:04 pm

Keeping continuity with characters-MI6 specifically.(Villiers, anyone?In CR but apparently working somewhere else or in a different department in QOS :P)
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby wrenchhands » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:02 pm

Yeah that's right, the dude from Rome. That's a minor one though, at least Bond/M/Felix/White stayed the same.
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby katied » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:10 pm

I liked the Tanner character in QOS..kind of a similar thing to the Villiers/ Bond sparring(albeit briefly) in CR.
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Postby wrenchhands » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:40 pm

What this next Bond needs to to crank up the dull schemes of his enemies. He could face off against a financial giant, who uses computer formulas and house values to create wealth. Bond needs to step up and prevent the enemy from getting a government subsidy for his scheme by using a laser....

....pointer on his power point presentation before Congress. It's the sort of bland, ripped from the headlines tale we need.

That or we need to go for hyper realism. Take a suggestion from Bill Hicks and use terminally ill patients and prisoners on death row as extras in the next movie and have Daniel Craig ACTUALLY murder henchman on film. And then the producers need to kill Daniel Craig so the ledger effect pushes the Budget up way high.

Or.... go the meta route, and film a story about the real James Bond has to become an actor and film a movie about his life in order to infiltrate a movie studio that also produces terrorists.

Or, better yet, go the back to the future route, and have Daniel Craig travel back in time and mess with Casino Royale in order to bring back Vespa alive, so they can marry, so she can die and he has to fight a villian. (Is it much worse than DAD?)
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby Mazer Rackham » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:48 pm

Craig is talking about Moneypenney and Q. With the tone of the series since CR I'd let them be. Nothing could be worse than a redntion of MP and Q with the attitude this series has now. Maybe it'd be alright of they change the tone. Maybe.
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby wrenchhands » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:04 am

Money Penny kind of sucks as a character anyways. We get it, she and Bond have unrequited love. What development could they have for her, she's really good at typing? She knows excel all to well?

Major Boothroyd I could see, maybe as a passing wink. Please don't bring back the Deus ex machina of gadgetry.
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby James » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:09 am

Mazer Rackham wrote:Craig is talking about Moneypenney and Q. With the tone of the series since CR I'd let them be. Nothing could be worse than a redntion of MP and Q with the attitude this series has now. Maybe it'd be alright of they change the tone. Maybe.


I'd leave these characters out of the Craig films too. What if Craig did a couple more and got replaced by a younger actor? Whoever played Q and Moneypenny against Craig wouldn't look right with a Cavill type. It'd be weird to have them suddenly playing against a Bond who looks twenty years younger.
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby katied » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:21 am

People here know my feeling about Q and Moneypenny...down the road a bit...not in the next film though(if EON are smart).
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Postby FormerBondFan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:31 am

James wrote:I'd leave these characters out of the Craig films too.


Same here. I don't see Moneypenny or Q being in Craig's Bonds.
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby katied » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:15 am

Same here. I don't see Moneypenny or Q being in Craig's Bonds.


I hope not.As I have said many times, I don't understand the attachment some have to them.I really don't. :down:
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby Kristatos » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:24 am

FormerBondFan wrote:
James wrote:I'd leave these characters out of the Craig films too.


Same here. I don't see Moneypenny or Q being in Craig's Bonds.

I've got ideas of how it could be done, but you'll have to wait for my outline treatment of Bond 23: Risico
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Postby Mazer Rackham » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:15 am

Kristatos wrote:
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James wrote:I'd leave these characters out of the Craig films too.


Same here. I don't see Moneypenny or Q being in Craig's Bonds.

I've got ideas of how it could be done, but you'll have to wait for my outline treatment of Bond 23: Risico
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby Mazer Rackham » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:20 am

wrenchhands wrote:Money Penny kind of sucks as a character anyways. We get it, she and Bond have unrequited love. What development could they have for her, she's really good at typing? She knows excel all to well?

Major Boothroyd I could see, maybe as a passing wink. Please don't bring back the Deus ex machina of gadgetry.
You might want to bring up the MP dislike with Ian Fleming. Since it is his bond they are allegedly trying to make.

I think the tone of the new series is contrary to the tone needed for a successful MP and Q or even "Wild" Bill Tanner.
(In Quark he came off as a tool.)

Probably best to keep the powder dry on MP and Q until they get back to making Bond films.
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Postby FormerBondFan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:25 am

Along with the male M, MP and Q shall return when the traditional James Bond returns.
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Postby Mazer Rackham » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:35 am

A male "M"? :shock:
d**nit man that's sexist!

Seriously, what kind of M should they replace Dench with? A traditional Bernard Lee styled or a more modern Navy admiral played by the likes of a Michael Kitchen, Colin Salmon or Anthony Hopkins?
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Postby FormerBondFan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:41 am

Mazer Rackham wrote:A traditional Bernard Lee styled or a more modern Navy admiral played by the likes of a Michael Kitchen, Colin Salmon or Anthony Hopkins?


Either of them is fine.
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Postby katied » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:49 am

LOL Tanner was just...Tanner, wasn't he? But in lieu of Villiers(am I the only one who wishes they would explain what happened to him at some point? :P),he'll do.
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Re: Bond 23 (with Craig). How would you improve the franchise?

Postby Kristatos » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:20 pm

Mazer Rackham wrote:A male "M"? :shock:
d**nit man that's sexist!

Seriously, what kind of M should they replace Dench with? A traditional Bernard Lee styled or a more modern Navy admiral played by the likes of a Michael Kitchen, Colin Salmon or Anthony Hopkins?

Personally, I don't think it matters now. Dench shouldn't have been cast in CR, but that particular ship has sailed. I've got a workaround for that in my upcoming treatment too, which is designed to fit between QOS and Dr No as it might appear in the rebooted timeline.
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