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Not unsure, yes.But look at how many people have joined DCINB. It's not as unpopular opinion as it used to be. Not like making a stink is going to get him fired,though :P
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katied wrote:Not unsure, yes.But look at how many people have joined DCINB. It's not as unpopular opinion as it used to be. Not like making a stink is going to get him fired,though :P
Those people suggesting that Craig was playing Fleming's Bond in QOS, that Craig is six foot etc etc look are considered the mad ones now. :wink:
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Trust me, Craig isn't what Fleming was thinking of when he write the books. :lol:
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carl stromberg wrote:Craig unsure over Bond future

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a132 ... uture.html
Daniel Craig has suggested that his future as James Bond is uncertain, despite having a contract for four films.

In an interview with Playboy, the 40-year-old confessed that whether or not he returns for another 007 instalment will depend on the success of the upcoming Quantum Of Solace.

"I did sign on for four so a piece of paper says there are two more to do," he commented. "But let's see how this one goes. In the film business, everything doesn't always go according to plan. We'll wait and see. If it goes wrong, we'll have to rethink things."

Wow.
This is old news, but it seems that he IS contracted for FOUR movies, and not three like I keep being told. And from people I thought were in the know.
Still the uncertainty as to whether he'd only do two is now gone.
Number three in the pipeline, then only one more to go. Possibly
Or you could say we're about half way through the Craig tenure.
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This is old news, but it seems that he IS contracted for FOUR movies, and not three like I keep being told.
And Dalton was contracted for three, and Lazenby for seven. Contracts can be wriggled out of if Craig doesn't want to do any more, or if MGM's new owners don't want him to do it.
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If the next one fails horribly,then I can see Craig wanting to get out of it and do some non-Bond films which probably won't make as much money and won't be seen as many people.
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carl stromberg wrote:Craig unsure over Bond future

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a132 ... uture.html
Daniel Craig has suggested that his future as James Bond is uncertain, despite having a contract for four films.

In an interview with Playboy, the 40-year-old confessed that whether or not he returns for another 007 instalment will depend on the success of the upcoming Quantum Of Solace.

"I did sign on for four so a piece of paper says there are two more to do," he commented. "But let's see how this one goes. In the film business, everything doesn't always go according to plan. We'll wait and see. If it goes wrong, we'll have to rethink things."

Wow.
This is old news, but it seems that he IS contracted for FOUR movies, and not three like I keep being told. And from people I thought were in the know.
Still the uncertainty as to whether he'd only do two is now gone.
Number three in the pipeline, then only one more to go. Possibly
Or you could say we're about half way through the Craig tenure.
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It seems like you have some serious reading problems, because what I kept telling you was that IT DOES NOT MATTER how many movies he is contracted for, because he SAID he only wants to do three and he's been clear about not wanting for this to be a long-term commitment, especially lately. What part of that is unclear to you? Yes I am in the know and I am talking about what he SAYS, not about his CONTRACT. Go re-read the previous posts from me to you on the matter. I NEVER said he isn't contracted for four, I said he wants to do three. And that statement REMAINS.

Exactly because, as Kristatos pointed out, contracts mean precious nothing the moment an actor wants out or the moment production decides they don't want him anymore and they can afford to pay him off. Ask Dalton, Lazenby and Brosnan about it.
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Ale wrote:It seems like you have some serious reading problems, because what I kept telling you was that IT DOES NOT MATTER how many movies he is contracted for, because he SAID he only wants to do three and he's been clear about not wanting for this to be a long-term commitment, especially lately. What part of that is unclear to you? Yes I am in the know and I am talking about what he SAYS, not about his CONTRACT. Go re-read the previous posts from me to you on the matter. I NEVER said he isn't contracted for four, I said he wants to do three. And that statement REMAINS.

Exactly because, as Kristatos pointed out, contracts mean precious nothing the moment an actor wants out or the moment production decides they don't want him anymore and they can afford to pay him off. Ask Dalton, Lazenby and Brosnan about it.
I can't wait to see you reaction if Craig does come back for Bond 24....which I believe he will, regardless of what he has said to the press.
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As some as Bond is recast all the tools saying he has to come back will talk about it being the right decision to cast whoever is Bond 7.Looks like he is making Qos 2 anyhow.great.
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As some as Bond is recast all the tools saying he has to come back will talk about it being the right decision to cast whoever is Bond 7.Looks like he is making Qos 2 anyhow.great.
LOL sad truth.

And if Daniel Craig is there for Bond 24, which I do NOT believe he will be, I will say the same thing I am saying now: MGM cannot afford to pay him out of the contract, plain and simple. Since HE doesn't want to do more than three per his own words to those who interact with him, if instead he comes back for a fourth one (which again I don't believe will be the case) I think it will be for the same reason as MGM: money. Except he'll make it rather than lose it in the process. BTW money is a huge reason for him wanting to do the third one as well, since he would be paid around $23 mln (this is the figure my friends in the business have been talking about). I don't blame him for trying to make money, it's a business and he has every right to get as much as he can from it. I just laugh at people who make it sound like he's got this big project or he's this incredible artistic talent and that's why he's committed (which, he isn't. He would have abandoned the sinking ship earlier this winter fast if it wasn't for all the money involved. Again can't blame him, that's a lot of money.)

You don't seem to realize that I basically couldn't care less about Craig, Sweeney. My life goes on well all the same way whether Craig does or doesn't do a new Bond movie. I find this a ridiculously bad business decision on Broccoli's part (losses included) and I don't even think Craig is at fault, he is just an actor who is miscast in a role. I have absolutely nothing against him personally (other than the fact I don't appreciate those who cheat on girlfriends, but it's his own freaking business anyway), I have met him in NYC and he was nice enough for sure. Meeting him just and only reinforced my opinion on him being completely wrong for Bond, and having absolutely nothing of what Bond is supposed to have. That said, I had quite a funny conversation with him and a common friend, so there is no reason why I would have anything bad to say about him as a person (other than the cheating that I do NOT condone, ever). In fact, my complaint is just and only about him playing a horrible non James Bond. Which, again, isn't even his fault since he can't change the way he is! So really... whatever Craig does and whatever happens it is more of the same bad business/artistic decisions as far as I'm concerned. Sorry to disappoint you, the sun doesn't rise and set with Craig here. :lol: Couldn't care less. I just don't give them ANY of my money when Craig is (non) Bond, and that's where it ends. When we get a new Bond that actually looks and behaves like James Bond, and a traditional Bond movie, I'll be the first in line to go see it. That's all there is to it, and since this isn't anything that has any relevance in the context of living a life... this is just and only entertainment for me, nothing else. So whatever happens with Bond 24, stay assured I won't lose sleep over it.
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If DC is doing Bond 23 he'll more than likely do Bond 24. Barbara loves him and no Bond film will ever bomb. He probably thinks Bond is a load of cobblers in private but it's a good payday.
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007 wrote:If DC is doing Bond 23 he'll more than likely do Bond 24.


I hope not.
Barbara loves him and no Bond film will ever bomb.
But LTK did in the US.
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007 wrote:Barbara loves him and no Bond film will ever bomb.
But LTK did in the US.
It still made a profit overall, though. No Bond film had lost money before QOS.
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LTK did about $40 million in the US. That's not a bust but it wasn't good enough for a Bond film. 1989 was a unique summer for big films though.
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According to box office mojo, LTK opened 4th place in the US.
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Ale wrote: It seems like you have some serious reading problems, because what I kept telling you was that IT DOES NOT MATTER how many movies he is contracted for, because he SAID he only wants to do three and he's been clear about not wanting for this to be a long-term commitment, especially lately.
Well he's keen to get Bond 23 made, and who knows at this stage. He's CONTRACTED for FOUR movies. What part of that don't YOU understand?
Ale wrote: What part of that is unclear to you?
Just because you've typed it, doesn't make it right Ale.
Ale wrote: Yes I am in the know and I am talking about what he SAYS, not about his CONTRACT.
Yes well I don't believe everything people tell me on the internet. Far to many screenwriters, journos, friend of a friend of a bloke I met down the pub, whose mums hairdresser knows Pierce Brosnan. Oh look a flying pig.
Ale wrote:Go re-read the previous posts from me to you on the matter.
Nahhh. I'm good thanks.
Ale wrote:I NEVER said he isn't contracted for four, I said he wants to do three. And that statement REMAINS.
We'll see. Time will tell.
Ale wrote:Exactly because, as Kristatos pointed out, contracts mean precious nothing the moment an actor wants out or the moment production decides they don't want him anymore and they can afford to pay him off. Ask Dalton, Lazenby and Brosnan about it.
Dalton was a mixture of Cubby and the studio realising that he hadn't worked as Bond to the 'mass' audience. Though he did work for Bond fans it would seem. Obviously not all. Not me, I love all the Bond actors.
Lazenby had stupid management who gave him the worse advice of all time. He was offered varying contracts, one of which was for 10 or 12 pictures, that would've seen him play Bond untill the late 80's.
Lazenby wanted to stay, and would've taken any contract offered, but he had a clause in his contract with his manager, that forbid it.
Brosnan was contracted for three, with an option of a fourth. EON took the option of the fourth (DAD) and Brosnan was then on a film by film contract. At the time he was going to come back for a fifth, but EON decided to make Casino Royale an origin story, and therefore Pierce was let go.
It was NEVER that Pierce was fired or treated unfairly. He simply didn't have his contract renewed. That's show business.
And I ACTUALLY know that for sure, because my best friends, aunties, husband works at the same place that Pierce Brosnan gets his car serviced, and he was telling him all about it. So there.
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007 wrote:If DC is doing Bond 23 he'll more than likely do Bond 24. Barbara loves him and no Bond film will ever bomb. He probably thinks Bond is a load of cobblers in private but it's a good payday.
Some sanity on here. I know it must be a nightmare for many of you here if he did return, but even 007 knows it is a real possibility.

Craig will only be reaching his mid 40's by the time Bond 24 comes around. Even if facially he will look 50 by then, pyhsically he will probably still be in shape....and the key deciding factor is - Babs loves him. She'll make him an offer he can't refuse, I can guarantee it. :wink:
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The Sweeney wrote:
007 wrote:If DC is doing Bond 23 he'll more than likely do Bond 24. Barbara loves him and no Bond film will ever bomb. He probably thinks Bond is a load of cobblers in private but it's a good payday.
Some sanity on here. I know it must be a nightmare for many of you here if he did return, but even 007 knows it is a real possibility.

Craig will only be reaching his mid 40's by the time Bond 24 comes around. Even if facially he will look 50 by then, pyhsically he will probably still be in shape....and the key deciding factor is - Babs loves him. She'll make him an offer he can't refuse, I can guarantee it. :wink:
I agree, we know DC takes the role seriously, and its important to him that the films he stars in are critically well received for there artistic content...........but as has been suggested, even if the next film is sub-par, EON will go out of there way to keep him from jumping ship.
DC must earn good money from his other films, but i hear he likes to buy expensive paintings, so he need's the big bucks from Bond.................which he would get by the shed load!

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Yes well I don't believe everything people tell me on the internet. Far to many screenwriters, journos, friend of a friend of a bloke I met down the pub, whose mums hairdresser knows Pierce Brosnan. Oh look a flying pig.
Sorry I'm not talking about the internet, I'm talking about actual people who work in the business and whom I am friends with. First-hand, not reported online by someone I do not know. And since those are professionals who work in that business for a living, there is no reason whatsoever why I would doubt they are accurately reporting what Craig's feelings on the matter are, seen as they have chances to directly interact with him and people who represent him. He wants to do three, which has got NOTHING to do with him having a four-year contract. Again, what part of that is unclear to you? Or aren't you aware that the first thing people do in order to be ensured more money is to have contracts extended and renewed? That's first and foremost a business move. Which, I've got nothing against, it's what anyone who is a business person will do. Sometimes people do it because they actually want to carry on with a project, other times they do it because that's the best way for them to get more money and that's it, not because they actually want a long-term commitment. Seen as Craig still hasn't changed his tune about wanting to do three movies (and again I'm talking about first-hand reports, not about internet rumors) then that's what I see happening. I also think he's already too old-looking to film Bond and he'll be WAY past it by the time Bond 24 comes along. I also think that IF MGM can pay him out of his contract (which is a BIG if), they will most definitely hire a new actor for Bond 24. So that's not only about him, but about MGM as well. IF they can pay, they will. If they CANNOT pay they won't, and he'll stay as Bond 24. And that is all there is to it. Again, what happened with Dalton, Lazenby and Brosnan is ample evidence of the fact that a contract as well as an agreement...means precious nothing.

Also, saying Craig is going to be in Bond 24 is not SANITY: it's an opinion and nothing else. It's a prediction on a future event, which really cannot be considered "sane" or otherwise, especially 3 and a half years at the very least before said event takes place. It's perfectly sane to think Craig WON'T be in Bond 24, if it's sane to think he will be, since this is merely a forecast on a future event. Nobody is crazy for thinking Craig will NOT be in Bond 24, especially since, like in my case, that is based on actual words coming out of Craig's mouth. The personal offenses need to stop pronto here. Clearly not able to take a differing opinion without getting personally insulting to others. That's not civil behaviour anywhere. And in case you have forgotten, which you seem to often do, this site is a CRAIG IS NOT BOND site. If you want to read "sane" opinions that of course are all about how the sun rises and sets with Craig, you can consult the notorious mainstream sites. Where the "sane" people according to your standards are. :^o):
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Yes well I don't believe everything people tell me on the internet. Far to many screenwriters, journos, friend of a friend of a bloke I met down the pub, whose mums hairdresser knows Pierce Brosnan. Oh look a flying pig.
Sorry I'm not talking about the internet, I'm talking about actual people who work in the business and whom I am friends with. First-hand, not reported online by someone I do not know. And since those are professionals who work in that business for a living, there is no reason whatsoever why I would doubt they are accurately reporting what Craig's feelings on the matter are, seen as they have chances to directly interact with him and people who represent him. He wants to do three, which has got NOTHING to do with him having a four-year contract. Again, what part of that is unclear to you? Or aren't you aware that the first thing people do in order to be ensured more money is to have contracts extended and renewed? That's first and foremost a business move. Which, I've got nothing against, it's what anyone who is a business person will do. Sometimes people do it because they actually want to carry on with a project, other times they do it because that's the best way for them to get more money and that's it, not because they actually want a long-term commitment. Seen as Craig still hasn't changed his tune about wanting to do three movies (and again I'm talking about first-hand reports, not about internet rumors) then that's what I see happening. I also think he's already too old-looking to film Bond and he'll be WAY past it by the time Bond 24 comes along. I also think that IF MGM can pay him out of his contract (which is a BIG if), they will most definitely hire a new actor for Bond 24. So that's not only about him, but about MGM as well. IF they can pay, they will. If they CANNOT pay they won't, and he'll stay as Bond 24. And that is all there is to it. Again, what happened with Dalton, Lazenby and Brosnan is ample evidence of the fact that a contract as well as an agreement...means precious nothing.

Also, saying Craig is going to be in Bond 24 is not SANITY: it's an opinion and nothing else. It's a prediction on a future event, which really cannot be considered "sane" or otherwise, especially 3 and a half years at the very least before said event takes place. It's perfectly sane to think Craig WON'T be in Bond 24, if it's sane to think he will be, since this is merely a forecast on a future event. Nobody is crazy for thinking Craig will NOT be in Bond 24, especially since, like in my case, that is based on actual words coming out of Craig's mouth. The personal offenses need to stop pronto here. Clearly not able to take a differing opinion without getting personally insulting to others. That's not civil behaviour anywhere. And in case you have forgotten, which you seem to often do, this site is a CRAIG IS NOT BOND site. If you want to read "sane" opinions that of course are all about how the sun rises and sets with Craig, you can consult the notorious mainstream sites. Where the "sane" people a lot longer than you have on this forum, and I've developccording to your standards are. :^o):
Listen, I've been here on this forum from the beginning, and I don't need some newbie (because that's what you are), telling me how to behave towards others on here. I would say I have quite a few friends on this forum, despite the difference in opinion. Maybe you need to stop being so touchy, and start treating others with respect too - especially long term members such as I.

And just because you've heard words utter out of an actors mouth means jack sh!t....yes, I actually work in broadcast too. :wink:
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