commander0077again wrote:The Bonds of Connery, Lazenby. Moore, Dalton, Brosnan were bigger than life figures,
Sorry i disagree, Dalton more realistic than others, Connery in his first two films, and Lazenby Too. I agree Moore and Brosnan in the other hand were bigger than life, because both of them can't be a spy in real life IMO.
commander0077again wrote:and the one-liners were comedic relief, and not psychopathic/sociopathic enjoyment of killing.
psychopath always have their own comedic relief sense, and if Brosnan Bond not enjoy killing, why he looks cool when roaming around with tank in st Peterseburg killing dozen or Russians like Rambo??? i think Brosnan Bond enjoy killing more than any other Bond. Only psychopath can make comedic relief after killing peoples.
commander0077again wrote:In times of near-death and danger, often people will really say one-liners, like "I'm glad it wasn't me!" (said in a high Connery voice).
Yes i agree, but not after killing people. If someone make stupid one liner after commit murder, their effort is not to make comedic relief actually, but more to sense of enjoyment after killing.
commander0077again wrote:But back to Bond. The Craig-Bond is set in a more 'realistic' Bourne-type world, and any neck breaking, etc. is then more realistic; and the shallowness of 'Bond' is more apparent.
so it is wrong to more realistic? Dalton-Bond is also realistic IMO especially in LTK.
commander0077again wrote: In the original, better Bonds, (opinion) it is a fantasy world, and the audience knows it's 'just a movie.'
original Bond? literary or Cinematic?
let me quote Fleming interview about his Bond character:
“I don’t think that [James Bond] is necessarily a good guy or a bad guy. Who is? He’s got his vices and very few perceptible virtues except patriotism and courage, which are probably not virtues anyway. He’s certainly got little in the way of politics, but I should think what politics he has are just a little bit left of centre. And he’s got little culture. He’s a man of action, and he reads books on golf, and so on—when he reads anything. I quite agree that he’s not a person of much social attractiveness. But then, I didn’t intend for him to be a particularly likable person. He’s a cipher, a blunt instrument in the hands of government.
after reading his interview, to me Only Craig and Dalton fit with Fleming descriptions in character sense.
commander0077again wrote:There's plenty of Bourne-type film violence in other films; the original Bond is in his own class.
Sorry every film has class, and LTK is more violent than Casino Royale i think, the difference is Casino Royale is Bond, where License to kill were Miami Vice staring Timothy Dalton.
commander0077again wrote:But if we place both Bonds -- the Bourne-Bond and Bond Original in the same picture frame, we see in the first case a man who doesn't enjoy life, things are meaningless, and he gets his thrill from killing.
what are you talking about?
Craig Bond having dinner in train,and in the hotel after winning texas hold'em. Craig Bond did enjoy life,oh btw HAVE YOU SEEN BROSNAN BOND ENJOY HAVING DINNER? AS LONG AS I REMEMBER HIS BOND ONLY ORDER DRINKS...
commander0077again wrote: In his own words regarding the famous martini, "Do I give a bleep?" or whatever he said.
you must see the scenes carefully like i did, i can understand why he react like that, because he is NORMAL HUMAN BEING, after losing much money do you think NORMAL People still have smirk like Brosnan?
oh i forgot Brosnan Bond were bigger than life
commander0077again wrote: Original Bond gives a bleep, and enjoys life.
Craig Bond have more knowledge in drink than Brosnan, and again have you seen Brosnan Bond having dinner?
commander0077again wrote: I can see Original Bond with a sardonic friend like Felix Leiter;
I can see Craig with a sardonic friend like Felix Leiter
commander0077again wrote:I can't see Bourne-Bond with any such friends, he's just too weird.
too weird? how come Craig too weird? because his approach too realistic?
commander0077again wrote:That Bond is weird, but likable.
let me quote again Fleming assertion about Bond characters:
I quite agree that he’s not a person of much social attractiveness. But then, I didn’t intend for him to be a particularly likable person.
commander0077again wrote:He has a sense of humor. Bourne-Bond has no sense of humor, or anything I would smile about.
i can't smile either when watching LTK. Craig better than Dalton in sense of humor. CR are more fun than LTK IMO.