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George is baaaaacccckkkkk :lol:
It took a rip at Pierce too back in the day some have said it was because the rival series was ramping up (before the court put a stop to it) and he was trying to land so sort of job.

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Daniel Craig's James Bond doesn't have a heart, says George Lazenby
Published Friday, Aug 10 2012, 4:29am EDT | By Simon Reynolds

Former James Bond star George Lazenby has criticized the latest 007 movies for having "no heart".

Lazenby, who played Ian Fleming's MI6 agent in 1969's On Her Majesty's Secret Service, shared his thoughts about Daniel Craig's Bond in the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly.

George Lazenby is the only Bond to get hitched, marrying Diana Rigg's Tracy Di Vicenzo in his one and only Bond outing

"He's a fantastic actor, but [his movies] are more violent, aren't they? It's the way our society has gone," said the Australian actor.

"You can't have someone who's got feelings now. Bond has to be able to shoot someone now and kiss a girl three minutes later. When I did it, it had more heart. There's no heart to the new Bond."

Lazenby's sole outing as James Bond saw the spy marry Tracy di Vicenzo (Diana Rigg), only to see her gunned down by nemesis Ernst Blofeld (Telly Savalas) in the film's final scene.

George Lazenby stepped into Sean Connery's shoes for On Her Majesty's Secret Service
The actor added that he regretted "many times" not being able to reprise his role as 007.

"Especially when I had a baby and another one in the pouch, and I was broke," he said. "I was living with my mother in Australia."

Asked how he felt about replacing Sean Connery, Lazenby replied: "What did I have to lose? I did all my own stunts, and I kept asking the director, 'Did the other fellow have to do this?' That's why the line is in the film: 'This never happened to the other fellow'.

"It made me so famous that when I went back to Australia, well, let's just say I didn't have any trouble getting laid."
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Geroge continues: (I'd like to see the proper article)
George Lazenby: 'Bond Producers Treated Me Badly'


Actor George Lazenby has accused Bond producers of wrecking his career when he quit the superspy franchise after just one film, insisting movie bosses made up tales about his demanding behaviour.

The Australian star played 007 in On Her Majesty's Secret Service but decided not to sign on for another Bond adventure because he felt sure the film series was over.

He tells Entertainment Weekly magazine, "They offered me millions under the table to do another one, but I thought James Bond was over. Easy Rider was the number one movie. Everyone was smoking marijuana, and that was the furthest thing from a James Bond movie. So I didn't sign the contract.

"I was badly treated after that. They (producers) told the press that I was difficult to handle, so it was hard to find work."

And Lazenby insists his portrayal of 007 in 1969 was the most believable, adding, "It's the only film that treats him like a human being. He's not a robot killer like the latest Bond... When I did it, it had more heart. There's no heart to the new Bond."


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Roger Moore has also made comments about the amount of violence and lack of humour in the Craig Bond films. It would be nice if the producers went back to a more balanced approach like they did with GoldenEye.
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I agree, George. Bond of the books and the pre-Craig movies wasn't a psychopath who enjoyed killing, except for bloodlust in dispatching the main baddies, such as Blofeld :) . He was repulsed, reflecting about 'horrible, glinting messes.' Craig's "Bond" would stare intently, like Peter Lorre, Yes! Yes! I seeeee, yes! Oh, what do you think of me, oh oh! This 'Bond' has no heart because he has no brain.
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commander0077again wrote:I agree, George. Bond of the books and the pre-Craig movies wasn't a psychopath who enjoyed killing,
oh really? :D

every Cinematic Bond always have psychopath moment brothers. If they don't, why they always make stupid one-liner after killing some villains? I think Brosnan and Moore is more psychopath, because if you counts the villains they kill, normal people USUALLY don't make any sillies or stupid one-liner or making love after that. I disagree with Lazenby statement. Craig Bond in opening scene in CR when Bond kills an informant in the public rooms, if you see him carefully Craig Bond seems traumatic and try to take control his emotion after the killing, i don't see that in Brosnan era (because i think Brosnan has limited acting abilities i guess :D )
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The Bonds of Connery, Lazenby. Moore, Dalton, Brosnan were bigger than life figures, and the one-liners were comedic relief, and not psychopathic/sociopathic enjoyment of killing. In times of near-death and danger, often people will really say one-liners, like "I'm glad it wasn't me!" (said in a high Connery voice). Or, true life rushing down a winding country hill with no brakes, "Say," said casually, "there's no brakes!" My friend, said, "Really?" just as casually. I think if we had shot off the road, our last words would have been, "You think we should have checked the brakes?"
But back to Bond. The Craig-Bond is set in a more 'realistic' Bourne-type world, and any neck breaking, etc. is then more realistic; and the shallowness of 'Bond' is more apparent. In the original, better Bonds, (opinion) it is a fantasy world, and the audience knows it's 'just a movie.' When Lazenby says, "He had lots of guts!" and Tracy agrees with a tight smile, I for one understand that it's not real. There's plenty of Bourne-type film violence in other films; the original Bond is in his own class. But if we place both Bonds -- the Bourne-Bond and Bond Original in the same picture frame, we see in the first case a man who doesn't enjoy life, things are meaningless, and he gets his thrill from killing. In his own words regarding the famous martini, "Do I give a bleep?" or whatever he said. Original Bond gives a bleep, and enjoys life. I can see Original Bond with a sardonic friend like Felix Leiter; I can't see Bourne-Bond with any such friends, he's just too weird. In DAF, Plenty O'Toole says, "Peter Franks, you're weird, but I like you." That Bond is weird, but likable. He has a sense of humor. Bourne-Bond has no sense of humor, or anything I would smile about.
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commander0077again wrote:The Bonds of Connery, Lazenby. Moore, Dalton, Brosnan were bigger than life figures,
Sorry i disagree, Dalton more realistic than others, Connery in his first two films, and Lazenby Too. I agree Moore and Brosnan in the other hand were bigger than life, because both of them can't be a spy in real life IMO.
commander0077again wrote:and the one-liners were comedic relief, and not psychopathic/sociopathic enjoyment of killing.
psychopath always have their own comedic relief sense, and if Brosnan Bond not enjoy killing, why he looks cool when roaming around with tank in st Peterseburg killing dozen or Russians like Rambo??? i think Brosnan Bond enjoy killing more than any other Bond. Only psychopath can make comedic relief after killing peoples.
commander0077again wrote:In times of near-death and danger, often people will really say one-liners, like "I'm glad it wasn't me!" (said in a high Connery voice).
Yes i agree, but not after killing people. If someone make stupid one liner after commit murder, their effort is not to make comedic relief actually, but more to sense of enjoyment after killing.
commander0077again wrote:But back to Bond. The Craig-Bond is set in a more 'realistic' Bourne-type world, and any neck breaking, etc. is then more realistic; and the shallowness of 'Bond' is more apparent.
so it is wrong to more realistic? Dalton-Bond is also realistic IMO especially in LTK.
commander0077again wrote: In the original, better Bonds, (opinion) it is a fantasy world, and the audience knows it's 'just a movie.'
original Bond? literary or Cinematic?

let me quote Fleming interview about his Bond character:

“I don’t think that [James Bond] is necessarily a good guy or a bad guy. Who is? He’s got his vices and very few perceptible virtues except patriotism and courage, which are probably not virtues anyway. He’s certainly got little in the way of politics, but I should think what politics he has are just a little bit left of centre. And he’s got little culture. He’s a man of action, and he reads books on golf, and so on—when he reads anything. I quite agree that he’s not a person of much social attractiveness. But then, I didn’t intend for him to be a particularly likable person. He’s a cipher, a blunt instrument in the hands of government.


after reading his interview, to me Only Craig and Dalton fit with Fleming descriptions in character sense.

commander0077again wrote:There's plenty of Bourne-type film violence in other films; the original Bond is in his own class.
Sorry every film has class, and LTK is more violent than Casino Royale i think, the difference is Casino Royale is Bond, where License to kill were Miami Vice staring Timothy Dalton.
commander0077again wrote:But if we place both Bonds -- the Bourne-Bond and Bond Original in the same picture frame, we see in the first case a man who doesn't enjoy life, things are meaningless, and he gets his thrill from killing.
what are you talking about? :D
Craig Bond having dinner in train,and in the hotel after winning texas hold'em. Craig Bond did enjoy life,oh btw HAVE YOU SEEN BROSNAN BOND ENJOY HAVING DINNER? AS LONG AS I REMEMBER HIS BOND ONLY ORDER DRINKS... :D
commander0077again wrote: In his own words regarding the famous martini, "Do I give a bleep?" or whatever he said.
you must see the scenes carefully like i did, i can understand why he react like that, because he is NORMAL HUMAN BEING, after losing much money do you think NORMAL People still have smirk like Brosnan? :D oh i forgot Brosnan Bond were bigger than life :D :D :D :D :D :D
commander0077again wrote: Original Bond gives a bleep, and enjoys life.
Craig Bond have more knowledge in drink than Brosnan, and again have you seen Brosnan Bond having dinner?

commander0077again wrote: I can see Original Bond with a sardonic friend like Felix Leiter;
I can see Craig with a sardonic friend like Felix Leiter

commander0077again wrote:I can't see Bourne-Bond with any such friends, he's just too weird.
too weird? how come Craig too weird? because his approach too realistic?

commander0077again wrote:That Bond is weird, but likable.
let me quote again Fleming assertion about Bond characters:

I quite agree that he’s not a person of much social attractiveness. But then, I didn’t intend for him to be a particularly likable person.


commander0077again wrote:He has a sense of humor. Bourne-Bond has no sense of humor, or anything I would smile about.
i can't smile either when watching LTK. Craig better than Dalton in sense of humor. CR are more fun than LTK IMO.
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commander0077again wrote:I agree, George. Bond of the books and the pre-Craig movies wasn't a psychopath who enjoyed killing,
oh really? :D

every Cinematic Bond always have psychopath moment brothers. If they don't, why they always make stupid one-liner after killing some villains? I think Brosnan and Moore is more psychopath, because if you counts the villains they kill, normal people USUALLY don't make any sillies or stupid one-liner or making love after that. I disagree with Lazenby statement. Craig Bond in opening scene in CR when Bond kills an informant in the public rooms, if you see him carefully Craig Bond seems traumatic and try to take control his emotion after the killing, i don't see that in Brosnan era (because i think Brosnan has limited acting abilities i guess :D )
Cregg looks like a psychotically deranged baboon who merely looks like he shot someone for the sake of it's in the script not in the convincing sense ie this person needs to be killed, he's the t1000 bond, emotionless, only has one expression and likes to kill many in his wake., bond isn't supposed to enjoy killing, he's a spy not an assassin, he has a license to kill but he likes to avoid killing if necessary and usually regrets it but knows it's the life he leads.

As for Brosnan having limited acting skills you're completely wrong, how about when he was betrayed in goldeneye or when he suddenly had to turn on bonds killer instinct when the woman he liked in world is not enough tried to kill him, he went from suave, normal bond to his killer self just like that (he executed her right there on the spot just like that), which shows he can do it he was the epitome of what bond is (after Connery imo then Moore), he took all the elements and brought it to a new audience, cregg on the otherhand brought nothing, he's merely playing a thug in a suit who would more then likely shot his own grandma if he was given a choice, models pout not bond, his wooden acting's more wooden than keanu reeves, he's better as someone who isn't a leading man & finally he's merely trying to be bourne not bond, Robert Downey Junior nailed bond pretty much as his tony stark character, cregg on the other hand nailed bonds character so far into his coffin that it's probably somewhere in china right now.
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commander0077again wrote:The Bonds of Connery, Lazenby. Moore, Dalton, Brosnan were bigger than life figures, and the one-liners were comedic relief, and not psychopathic/sociopathic enjoyment of killing. In times of near-death and danger, often people will really say one-liners, like "I'm glad it wasn't me!" (said in a high Connery voice). Or, true life rushing down a winding country hill with no brakes, "Say," said casually, "there's no brakes!" My friend, said, "Really?" just as casually. I think if we had shot off the road, our last words would have been, "You think we should have checked the brakes?"
But back to Bond. The Craig-Bond is set in a more 'realistic' Bourne-type world, and any neck breaking, etc. is then more realistic; and the shallowness of 'Bond' is more apparent. In the original, better Bonds, (opinion) it is a fantasy world, and the audience knows it's 'just a movie.' When Lazenby says, "He had lots of guts!" and Tracy agrees with a tight smile, I for one understand that it's not real. There's plenty of Bourne-type film violence in other films; the original Bond is in his own class. But if we place both Bonds -- the Bourne-Bond and Bond Original in the same picture frame, we see in the first case a man who doesn't enjoy life, things are meaningless, and he gets his thrill from killing. In his own words regarding the famous martini, "Do I give a bleep?" or whatever he said. Original Bond gives a bleep, and enjoys life. I can see Original Bond with a sardonic friend like Felix Leiter; I can't see Bourne-Bond with any such friends, he's just too weird. In DAF, Plenty O'Toole says, "Peter Franks, you're weird, but I like you." That Bond is weird, but likable. He has a sense of humor. Bourne-Bond has no sense of humor, or anything I would smile about.
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tehmanis wrote:Craig Bond in opening scene in CR when Bond kills an informant in the public rooms, if you see him carefully Craig Bond seems traumatic and try to take control his emotion after the killing, i don't see that in Brosnan era (because i think Brosnan has limited acting abilities i guess :D )
Pierce with limited acting abilities? Try watching Fat Seagal's films, and I'm sure everyone here would agree.
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And Moneypenny called Lazenby a heartless brute. :lol: Lazenby needs to hide his senility.
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Lazenby is good people! :martini:
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katied wrote:Lazenby is good people! :martini:
of course he is good people, Lazenby said Craig is a FANTASTIC ACTOR :D

i wonder what Lazenby think about Brosnan, oh i got it : :D

(on GoldenEye (1995)) If (Pierce Brosnan) walked into a room, I doubt anyone would look up. But this is the `90s and women want a different man, a man who shows his feminine side. Pierce definitely has that.
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shaken not stirred wrote:
Cregg looks like a psychotically deranged baboon who merely looks like he shot someone for the sake of it's in the script not in the convincing sense ie this person needs to be killed, he's the t1000 bond, emotionless, only has one expression and likes to kill many in his wake., bond isn't supposed to enjoy killing, .he's a spy not an assassin, he has a license to kill but he likes to avoid killing if necessary and usually regrets it but knows it's the life he leads.
i don't see Brosnan Bond regret killing after he roaming in russia with Tank like terminators :D or like he did in Die another day. Btw Bond is supposed to be a spy and a killer not an pretty boyish weak GQ model like Brosnan :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
shaken not stirred wrote:As for Brosnan having limited acting skills you're completely wrong,
so can you tell me why he got razzies nomination for worst screen couple in TWINE? :D :D :D and i think he is the first james bond actor who got such nominations, and FINALLY he got razzies for supporting actor in MAmma Mia prove his acting abilities is below average :D :D :D :D
shaken not stirred wrote: cregg on the otherhand brought nothing,.
Brosnan actually brought nothing, he only duplicate what Moore and Connery doing, and failed. His Pain face and his whining attitude are the only legacy he made on the franchise :D
shaken not stirred wrote: he's merely playing a thug in a suit who would more then likely shot his own grandma if he was given a choice, models pout not bond, his wooden acting's more wooden
and Craig is the first actor that got BAFTA nominations as James Bond :cheers:
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Whoops all I saw was the "No heart" bit and I had to respond. :oops:
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Disregard.
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shaken not stirred wrote:
and Craig is the first actor that got BAFTA nominations as James Bond :cheers:
The only nomination cregg would get is gorilla in a suit & who cares if he did, awards today mean nothing, bond isn't meant to be about oscars, it's supposed to be fun not woah life is pain, i have to kill somebody, bwwwwaaaah vesper a woman who betrayed him he barely knew and got angry about, you want to see a bond that handled that well look at lazenbys bond in ohmss it wasn't the best but that's how you do bond in love and how a character falls apart at the very end when you see him cry that is acting, when I saw craig find vesper dead underwater I felt nothing, there was no chemistry between them & the stupid really cheesy love montage with them before that was terrible it felt like those really bad love montages purposely done in comedies that take the piss out of this kind of thing and for a so called serious reboot that really dropped the ball.

Reg Brosnan pain face, better than anything cregg can do (ie pout like droopy), he's a one expression person, I've seen actors in an uwe bole (the worst of the worst) show more emotion and expressions than cregg hell even tommy wiseau who made the worst film of all time the room is a more convincing actor then cregg and that's really saying something, you only put on that kind of face if you're bored and cregg clearly is no matter what he does.

Finally Brosnan brought nothing? are you serious he brought back renewed faith in the franchise, he brought in a whole new audience, brought back the excitement that was missing from bond for a longtime, he felt like connery and moore with his own stuff as well brough to the table and it worked really well, that's what a real actors supposed to do carry on, bring over some elements whilst bringing on a bit of his own as well as long as it still feels like the same character and a natural evolution, cregg brought nothing, he's merely a bourne poser & essentially bond if he had his nuts cut off who believes he's the incredible hulk busting through walls, killing tons of people then all of a sudden later feeling bad after he killed someone (consistensy, character development what's that), none of cr made any sense & how many d**n films does he need till he's supposed to be bond, batman did it in an hour, ironman in half an hour and this guys still stuck in I don't know who the bloody hell i am (another trait of bourne).

Feel free to debunk what I've said and turn it around I know I'm right and I stand by it, cregg was nominated, so are people like russell brand.
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shaken......what say you about Fat Seagal, considering he plays the same character in most of his films?
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FormerBondFan wrote:shaken......what say you about Fat Seagal, considering he plays the same character in most of his films?
I'm all for it, seagal used to be a great actor and fighter (before 2005) atleast he'd make the role entertaining again instead of put Me to sleep.
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Any minion who thinks this acting is better than Pierce's acting in Evelyn needs to get his/her back broken by Bane.

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