Have you got a link to the first draft script?Kristatos wrote:Yup, as I've said before (apologies to the old lags for the repetition, but we've had some new recruits recently), Purvis and Wade's first draft of CR's script sounds like it would have made a better movie than the finished product. Not only was there no reboot to tick off those of us who didn't think the series needed to go back to the drawing board, but it actually had a serious theme - Bond discovering, through his love for Vesper, the value of the society he is protecting. The redrafted, Haggisised movie didn't really have any such weighty themes. It was middlebrow self-importance masquerading as depth.Terry wrote:That was one aspect to CR I didn't understand. The idea that it was either Craig or another silly film. There are actually other good actors out there and some of them have the advantage of looking like Bond....or that Die Another Day 2 was the only alternative to Craig.
Had the first draft script been filmed with Bale or Purefoy or (more likely)Worthington as Bond, I would probably have been cheerleading for the film as enthusiastically as Sweeney or Stocks or Katied.
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Sadly no, I was going by their comments in this interview (see just below the pic of Neal Purvis for the relevant comment).Skywalker wrote:Have you got a link to the first draft script?
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Thanks for the link. In their own words they describe CR as not requiring a reboot theme and only chose that path by wanting to include Bond's first two kills.Kristatos wrote:Sadly no, I was going by their comments in this interview (see just below the pic of Neal Purvis for the relevant comment).Skywalker wrote:Have you got a link to the first draft script?
Their reasoning for including Dame Judi is lame.
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Who says they chose it? Note the passive-voice "it was decided...."Skywalker wrote:Thanks for the link. In their own words they describe CR as not requiring a reboot theme and only chose that path by wanting to include Bond's first two kills.
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Terry wrote:That was one aspect to CR I didn't understand. The idea that it was either Craig or another silly film. There are actually other good actors out there and some of them have the advantage of looking like Bond....or that Die Another Day 2 was the only alternative to Craig.
I agree but I think it probably was a case of Craig or no film for Barbara. If Craig had been blocked I think Eon might have gone into mothballs with the biggest sulk of all time.
I think Sony might have had something to say about that. Babs insists that Craig was the only choice to play Bond, but supposing he had refused to do it? I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have had a plan B - they'd have just gone ahead with Worthington or Cavill in the role.007 wrote:I agree but I think it probably was a case of Craig or no film for Barbara. If Craig had been blocked I think Eon might have gone into mothballs with the biggest sulk of all time.
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Makes you wonder if they preferred the original draft then?Kristatos wrote:Who says they chose it? Note the passive-voice "it was decided...."Skywalker wrote:Thanks for the link. In their own words they describe CR as not requiring a reboot theme and only chose that path by wanting to include Bond's first two kills.
I find it hard to understand why Babs felt Craig was the only choice to play Bond. I'd love to know her reasoning.
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The film does have that rushed feeling to it like it started as one thing then almost as a side thought ended up as another when they realised Craig was not up to the task. Lame Haggis dialogue though and people have a nerve to take a swip at some of the cheesier double entonders from the classic BondsSkywalker wrote:Makes you wonder if they preferred the original draft then?Kristatos wrote:Who says they chose it? Note the passive-voice "it was decided...."Skywalker wrote:Thanks for the link. In their own words they describe CR as not requiring a reboot theme and only chose that path by wanting to include Bond's first two kills.
I find it hard to understand why Babs felt Craig was the only choice to play Bond. I'd love to know her reasoning.
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If they thought Craig was not upto the task, then why is he making the next film.james stock wrote:The film does have that rushed feeling to it like it started as one thing then almost as a side thought ended up as another when they realised Craig was not up to the task. Lame Haggis dialogue though and people have a nerve to take a swip at some of the cheesier double entonders from the classic BondsSkywalker wrote:Makes you wonder if they preferred the original draft then?Kristatos wrote:Who says they chose it? Note the passive-voice "it was decided...."Skywalker wrote:Thanks for the link. In their own words they describe CR as not requiring a reboot theme and only chose that path by wanting to include Bond's first two kills.
I find it hard to understand why Babs felt Craig was the only choice to play Bond. I'd love to know her reasoning.
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Babs certainly thinks Craig is up to the task of playing Bond, so are the many other millions of fans who went to see their first ever Bond film (Craig in Trunks).Arthur Brain wrote:If they thought Craig was not upto the task, then why is he making the next film.james stock wrote:The film does have that rushed feeling to it like it started as one thing then almost as a side thought ended up as another when they realised Craig was not up to the task. Lame Haggis dialogue though and people have a nerve to take a swip at some of the cheesier double entonders from the classic BondsSkywalker wrote:Makes you wonder if they preferred the original draft then?Kristatos wrote:Who says they chose it? Note the passive-voice "it was decided...."Skywalker wrote:Thanks for the link. In their own words they describe CR as not requiring a reboot theme and only chose that path by wanting to include Bond's first two kills.
I find it hard to understand why Babs felt Craig was the only choice to play Bond. I'd love to know her reasoning.
I wonder how many of those people that viewed CR have seen any of the other Bond films.
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You may not like him as Bond, but your theory on Babs and co. realising Craig was not up to the task is very misguided, IMO. I reckon many of EON think he is the best Bond since Connery.james stock wrote:The film does have that rushed feeling to it like it started as one thing then almost as a side thought ended up as another when they realised Craig was not up to the task.