EDWARD FOX: 'CRAIG IS WRONG FOR BOND'

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carl stromberg wrote:20 points to the Commander for bumping this lovely thread up!
He gets points for bringing back a dead topic? :shock: I never knew this site was so easy. :twisted:
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carl stromberg wrote:20 points to the Commander for bumping this lovely thread up!
Isn't that just encouraging people to spam carl?
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Good old Fox! Let's not forget Lois Maxwell (and who else) are down on DC as Bond. I don't think they are downgrading DC as an actor, but that he's not a Bond-type.
I think quite a few people see Craig as Bond a bit of a joke. But then the public wanted a musclebound action hero Bond, and that it what they got! As Sir Edward Fox pointed out, this is far away from the fantasy figure of a snobbish English gentleman in the 1950's.
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But none of the other Bonds have been played that way either.
Connery was hardly the 50's English gentleman type!
Of all the actors to play the role, Sir Roger Moore would come the closest to the gentleman type.
I see each of the actors playing Bond in a similar style to the period they come from. With CR and DC in a few years I'm sure it wont be seen as such a drastic and massive change that some seem to think it is.
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Captain Nash wrote:But none of the other Bonds have been played that way either.
Connery was hardly the 50's English gentleman type!
Of all the actors to play the role, Sir Roger Moore would come the closest to the gentleman type.
I see each of the actors playing Bond in a similar style to the period they come from. With CR and DC in a few years I'm sure it wont be seen as such a drastic and massive change that some seem to think it is.
Fleming's Bond wasn't the 50's English gentleman type either. In Goldfinger he is treated to a flamboyant dinner by a rich man; later, he's disgusted with himself. Meeting in the College of Arms, Bond is not impressed with snobbery / titles. When in the workaday world of business at Universl Exports, Bond does not dine on champagne an fois grass :lol: ; he eats very simply, with the possible exception of breakfast where his egg must be done 'just so.' After he proposes to Tracy he gets drunk with his taxi driver, celebrating in a few cheap dives (implied).

In the films, it's ironic that all of the actors do not have a classic English gentleman accent. It's more 'mid-atlantic' as someone has said. Bond sounds more neutral -- like a Western Canadian (who can be mistaken for Americans who have neutral accents).

And back to Edward Fox and Lois Maxwell. Their views carry weight, since both (especially Miss Moneypenny) appeared in Bond films. Fox says he knew Fleming. Maxwell, of course, was there from the very very beginning. If anyone has authority to write the 'bible' of Bond, then it's LM : "In the beginning, Fleming created Bond, and he saw that Bond was very good-looking, like a screen star, with a somewhat ruthless mouth."

And Fleming said : It is good.
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Commander 0077 wrote: And back to Edward Fox and Lois Maxwell. Their views carry weight, since both (especially Miss Moneypenny) appeared in Bond films. Fox says he knew Fleming. Maxwell, of course, was there from the very very beginning. If anyone has authority to write the 'bible' of Bond, then it's LM : "In the beginning, Fleming created Bond, and he saw that Bond was very good-looking, like a screen star, with a somewhat ruthless mouth."

And Fleming said : It is good.
I also guess the previous Bond actors carry some weight too with their opinion of DC..... :wink:
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The Sweeney wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote: And back to Edward Fox and Lois Maxwell. Their views carry weight, since both (especially Miss Moneypenny) appeared in Bond films. Fox says he knew Fleming. Maxwell, of course, was there from the very very beginning. If anyone has authority to write the 'bible' of Bond, then it's LM : "In the beginning, Fleming created Bond, and he saw that Bond was very good-looking, like a screen star, with a somewhat ruthless mouth."

And Fleming said : It is good.
I also guess the previous Bond actors carry some weight too with their opinion of DC..... :wink:
Yes, I agree.
But, again, Miss Moneypenny is the 'grand old lady' although she will never be 'old' to me. Her opinion carries the greater weight. It's like if Bernard Lee were alive and said, "What, DC as Bond! Shoot me now, James!"
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Commander 0077 wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote: And back to Edward Fox and Lois Maxwell. Their views carry weight, since both (especially Miss Moneypenny) appeared in Bond films. Fox says he knew Fleming. Maxwell, of course, was there from the very very beginning. If anyone has authority to write the 'bible' of Bond, then it's LM : "In the beginning, Fleming created Bond, and he saw that Bond was very good-looking, like a screen star, with a somewhat ruthless mouth."

And Fleming said : It is good.
I also guess the previous Bond actors carry some weight too with their opinion of DC..... :wink:
Yes, I agree.
But, again, Miss Moneypenny is the 'grand old lady' although she will never be 'old' to me. Her opinion carries the greater weight. It's like if Bernard Lee were alive and said, "What, DC as Bond! Shoot me now, James!"
Of course, and if she actually liked DC you'd find another female actress who agrees with your opinion and claim her opinion has greater weight. :wink:
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Of course, and if she actually liked DC you'd find another female actress who agrees with your opinion and claim her opinion has greater weight
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I think you understand how this feud works now! :wink:
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carl stromberg wrote:
Of course, and if she actually liked DC you'd find another female actress who agrees with your opinion and claim her opinion has greater weight
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I think you understand how this feud works now! :wink:
Yes of course, the feud is the one that holds no wieght at all and in the end all the money and raving reviews are what muffles the complaints by an old has been bloke and a woman that's only and will always be remembered as "the old Moneypenny" by the average joe/jane without knowing her actual name. :wink:
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stockslivevan wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote: And back to Edward Fox and Lois Maxwell. Their views carry weight, since both (especially Miss Moneypenny) appeared in Bond films. Fox says he knew Fleming. Maxwell, of course, was there from the very very beginning. If anyone has authority to write the 'bible' of Bond, then it's LM : "In the beginning, Fleming created Bond, and he saw that Bond was very good-looking, like a screen star, with a somewhat ruthless mouth."

And Fleming said : It is good.
I also guess the previous Bond actors carry some weight too with their opinion of DC..... :wink:
Yes, I agree.
But, again, Miss Moneypenny is the 'grand old lady' although she will never be 'old' to me. Her opinion carries the greater weight. It's like if Bernard Lee were alive and said, "What, DC as Bond! Shoot me now, James!"
Of course, and if she actually liked DC you'd find another female actress who agrees with your opinion and claim her opinion has greater weight. :wink:
There's only one real Miss Moneypenny -- Lois Maxwell. If another female actress comes forward in favor of DC (fer example), her opinion will never carry the weight of Miss Moneypenny. Again, LM has been there from the beginning. No other actress can make this claim.
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Commander 0077 wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote: And back to Edward Fox and Lois Maxwell. Their views carry weight, since both (especially Miss Moneypenny) appeared in Bond films. Fox says he knew Fleming. Maxwell, of course, was there from the very very beginning. If anyone has authority to write the 'bible' of Bond, then it's LM : "In the beginning, Fleming created Bond, and he saw that Bond was very good-looking, like a screen star, with a somewhat ruthless mouth."

And Fleming said : It is good.
I also guess the previous Bond actors carry some weight too with their opinion of DC..... :wink:
Yes, I agree.
But, again, Miss Moneypenny is the 'grand old lady' although she will never be 'old' to me. Her opinion carries the greater weight. It's like if Bernard Lee were alive and said, "What, DC as Bond! Shoot me now, James!"
Of course, and if she actually liked DC you'd find another female actress who agrees with your opinion and claim her opinion has greater weight. :wink:
There's only one real Miss Moneypenny -- Lois Maxwell. If another female actress comes forward in favor of DC (fer example), her opinion will never carry the weight of Miss Moneypenny. Again, LM has been there from the beginning. No other actress can make this claim.
And should I really give a d**n what an old hag thinks?
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stockslivevan wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
I also guess the previous Bond actors carry some weight too with their opinion of DC..... :wink:

Yes, I agree.
But, again, Miss Moneypenny is the 'grand old lady' although she will never be 'old' to me. Her opinion carries the greater weight. It's like if Bernard Lee were alive and said, "What, DC as Bond! Shoot me now, James!"
Of course, and if she actually liked DC you'd find another female actress who agrees with your opinion and claim her opinion has greater weight. :wink:
There's only one real Miss Moneypenny -- Lois Maxwell. If another female actress comes forward in favor of DC (fer example), her opinion will never carry the weight of Miss Moneypenny. Again, LM has been there from the beginning. No other actress can make this claim.
And should I really give a d**n what an old hag thinks?
Stocksliveon, I'm disappointed in you. Now you're calling a woman an old hag. And a woman who has been an integral part of the Bond era.
Shocking, positively ...... :oops:
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Thought I'd get someone's attention sooner or later. :wink:

I wouldn't let the nice lady change my views of Daniel Craig because of her own. I'm not weak minded. :wink:
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It's interesting that someone from the same social background as Ian Fleming did not like the new type of James Bond.
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Gary Seven wrote:It's interesting that someone from the same social background as Ian Fleming did not like the new type of James Bond.
Guess that's why Fleming didn't originally like Connery.....
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Commander 0077 wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote: And back to Edward Fox and Lois Maxwell. Their views carry weight, since both (especially Miss Moneypenny) appeared in Bond films. Fox says he knew Fleming. Maxwell, of course, was there from the very very beginning. If anyone has authority to write the 'bible' of Bond, then it's LM : "In the beginning, Fleming created Bond, and he saw that Bond was very good-looking, like a screen star, with a somewhat ruthless mouth."

And Fleming said : It is good.
I also guess the previous Bond actors carry some weight too with their opinion of DC..... :wink:
Yes, I agree.
But, again, Miss Moneypenny is the 'grand old lady' although she will never be 'old' to me. Her opinion carries the greater weight. It's like if Bernard Lee were alive and said, "What, DC as Bond! Shoot me now, James!"
So her weight carries more than the 5 previous actors who have played Bond......
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carl stromberg wrote:EDWARD FOX: 'CRAIG IS WRONG FOR BOND'

2007-03-15

http://www.pr-inside.com/fox-craig-is-w ... r66948.htm

British actor EDWARD FOX has blasted casting directors on the latest JAMES BOND movie CASINO ROYALE, because he thinks new 007 DANIEL CRAIG is "utterly wrong" for the part.
THE DAY OF THE JACKAL star, 68, is disgusted by Craig's appearance, and claims a blond spy would never have been approved by Bond creator IAN FLEMING.
He says of Craig, "So ugly! He is utterly wrong for Bond. The opposite of what Fleming intended, and I knew Fleming."

I've never seen this before. :P
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The Sweeney wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Commander 0077 wrote: And back to Edward Fox and Lois Maxwell. Their views carry weight, since both (especially Miss Moneypenny) appeared in Bond films. Fox says he knew Fleming. Maxwell, of course, was there from the very very beginning. If anyone has authority to write the 'bible' of Bond, then it's LM : "In the beginning, Fleming created Bond, and he saw that Bond was very good-looking, like a screen star, with a somewhat ruthless mouth."

And Fleming said : It is good.
I also guess the previous Bond actors carry some weight too with their opinion of DC..... :wink:
Yes, I agree.
But, again, Miss Moneypenny is the 'grand old lady' although she will never be 'old' to me. Her opinion carries the greater weight. It's like if Bernard Lee were alive and said, "What, DC as Bond! Shoot me now, James!"
So her weight carries more than the 5 previous actors who have played Bond......
In DCINB's eyes, yes. You should know them well by now Sweeney. :P
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Oddjob wrote:
carl stromberg wrote:EDWARD FOX: 'CRAIG IS WRONG FOR BOND'

2007-03-15

http://www.pr-inside.com/fox-craig-is-w ... r66948.htm

British actor EDWARD FOX has blasted casting directors on the latest JAMES BOND movie CASINO ROYALE, because he thinks new 007 DANIEL CRAIG is "utterly wrong" for the part.
THE DAY OF THE JACKAL star, 68, is disgusted by Craig's appearance, and claims a blond spy would never have been approved by Bond creator IAN FLEMING.
He says of Craig, "So ugly! He is utterly wrong for Bond. The opposite of what Fleming intended, and I knew Fleming."

I've never seen this before. :P

Where have you been hiding Oddjob?
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