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FormerBondFan wrote:Those who are scared of Ledger's Joker are mostly those who are scared of clowns. That's just my opinion though.
Good point, there are plenty of that lot. I don't get what's so scary about clowns. :| Maybe my parents didn't keep me under a rock long enough :lol: .
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stockslivevan wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:Those who are scared of Ledger's Joker are mostly those who are scared of clowns. That's just my opinion though.
Good point, there are plenty of that lot. I don't get what's so scary about clowns. :| Maybe my parents didn't keep me under a rock long enough :lol: .
Phobias never seem rational to those who don't share them. I'm phobic about wasps, for example, and go into panic mode whenever I see one, while other people laugh and tell me not to be so silly. I can sort of see why some people would find clowns creepy, though they don't particularly scare me. I know plenty of people who are scared of clowns though, and there are movies (It) and urban myths (the life-size clown statue that turns out to be an escaped murderer) that play on this fear.
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Kristatos wrote:Phobias never seem rational to those who don't share them. I'm phobic about wasps, for example, and go into panic mode whenever I see one, while other people laugh and tell me not to be so silly.
Okay, very good point there, because I have that for wasps too. :oops:
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stockslivevan wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:
Kristatos wrote:From what I've seen of Ledger's performance, his take on the character looks very different.
Ledger's performance could give kids nightmares IMO.
Maybe to really sensitive kids who never heard of Batman, because I know I wouldn't have been scared by Heath's Joker. Even at the age of six the gruesome portrayal of the Penguin from BATMAN RETURNS didn't scare me one bit.
Oh come on Christopher Walken was scary enough to keep kids out of the movie ;) . The Penguin was grotesque and vile. I know I will not let my kids see it until they are ready, certainly not 6 years old,. but again then you were probably weaned on The Killing Fields ;)

I haven't seen the new batman movie, plan to rent it.but I never though of the Joker as being that scary, but he did kill Robin once. Good call IMHO :D
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Saw it this morning. All I can say for now is WOW!
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I just bought the soundtrack and the novelization few days ago.
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Kristatos wrote:Saw it this morning. All I can say for now is WOW!
Craig is screwed-
TDK is everything they want to do with Bond and are not capable of doing -Batman is Batman - they kept gadgets fantastic n wild -plots outrageous -moral themes rolled around a strong story with choices -Bond 2.0 has none of this -only a sorry attempt to be like this.
Craig is screwed becasue when thinking of movies in 2008 Casino Royale 2: Electric Boogaloo is a going to be a footnote to an uninteresting story nobody but Craig cares about -nothing about CR was compelling enough to deserve a direct sequel.
TDK did it right by not being a direct sequel and keeping the story interesting with the extravagant wold batman lives in -CR is a bland wold. -Batman shows us new worlds while finding the old. -what Cr should've -could've been.


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Harvey Wallbanger wrote:
Kristatos wrote:Saw it this morning. All I can say for now is WOW!
Craig is screwed-
TDK is everything they want to do with Bond and are not capable of doing -Batman is Batman - they kept gadgets fantastic n wild -plots outrageous -moral themes rolled around a strong story with choices -Bond 2.0 has none of this -only a sorry attempt to be like this.
Craig is screwed becasue when thinking of movies in 2008 Casino Royale 2: Electric Boogaloo is a going to be a footnote to an uninteresting story nobody but Craig cares about -nothing about CR was compelling enough to deserve a direct sequel.
TDK did it right by not being a direct sequel and keeping the story interesting with the extravagant wold batman lives in -CR is a bland wold. -Batman shows us new worlds while finding the old. -what Cr should've -could've been.


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Seen it twice now. Superb!! I've noticed the action in this is a lot more relentless and non-stop, similar to Bourne Ultimatum, which makes me wonder whether EON are making a conscious decision to make QOS follow this trend now, with comments from Wilson about it having twice as much action as CR.

TDK is easily the best sequel since Empire Strikes Back. Superb acting all round, twists galore, no CGI, very dark, violent, hardly any humour, realistic type action. Even the gadgets don't seem OTT in this. This is how action films should be. Let's hope QOS is similar in style to this.


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The Sweeney wrote:TDK is easily the best sequel since Empire Strikes Back. Superb acting all round, twists galore, no CGI, very dark, violent, hardly any humour, realistic type action. Even the gadgets don't seem OTT in this. This is how action films should be. Let's hope QOS is similar in style to this.
Actually, if you stayed for the end credits, you'd see that there is a lot of CGI in the film, it is just so seamless that you don't notice it. As for the "hardly any humour" part, that was perhaps my only criticism - that they downplayed the Joker's twisted sense of humour. The Joker, as portrayed in graphic novels such as The Killing Joke (by Alan Moore & Brian Bolland) and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth (by Grant Morrison & Dave McKean) - the two books that Heath Ledger read in order to get into character - is someone who not only revels in death and destruction, he finds it funny. That aspect of his character didn't really come across in the film. Why so serious?
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How much CGI is used TDK? I assume it's not too much.
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And once again, TDK rules the US box office for the second week.
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The Sweeney wrote: realistic type action.
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Dark Knight had humor, in a Quentin Tarantino kind of way.
Quite a bit of humor and inside jokes in a non Tarantino way.The Batmobile says goodbye, comeon man that was funny as well as a few other throwaway one liners.
Alfred is a constant source of amusement, Bruce joking back with him He's a different man around Alfred.



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FormerBondFan wrote:How much CGI is used TDK? I assume it's not too much.
All I know is that there were a lot of CGI artists listed in the movie's credits, and I assume they weren't being paid to sit around drinking coffee all day.
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Kristatos wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:How much CGI is used TDK? I assume it's not too much.
All I know is that there were a lot of CGI artists listed in the movie's credits, and I assume they weren't being paid to sit around drinking coffee all day.
I suppose the CGI is pretty well done then.
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There is a lot of CGI to my eyes. Well done CGI filling in the details they couldn't make on set. Limiting CGI is a philosophica choice on the producers part.
The difference is it from the Star Wars I-II-II, X-men, Superman school and the Peter Jackson if we can make it we do that before using computers.
Christian Bale stood on top of the Sears Tower just so they didn't CGI. They still had green screens and wires to edit out, shadows to manipulate, vehicles to help make real, capes to help make cool.


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Is the Gotham City in the Nolan series fits more to the comics than the Gotham City in the Burton/Schumacher series?
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FormerBondFan wrote:Is the Gotham City in the Nolan series fits more to the comics than the Gotham City in the Burton/Schumacher series?
Absolutely!
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The Sweeney wrote:
FormerBondFan wrote:Is the Gotham City in the Nolan series fits more to the comics than the Gotham City in the Burton/Schumacher series?
Absolutely!
Depends which comics you're talking about. The comics have ranged from campy 60's stuff with Bat-Mite and Ace the Bathound to Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. Nolan's vision certainly fits with recent Batman comics.
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Kristatos wrote:Nolan's vision certainly fits with recent Batman comics.
You meant The Dark Knight Returns?
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