A few questions

TheManWithNoName · Post by **TheManWithNoName** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:48 pm

Okay, just a few questions. Can you guys proved some proof for this?

The casino Royal Boycott continues into the DVD release,
the pay per view release and Video Rentals.
Tens of thousands of movie goers walked out of movie
theaters in protest.
Millions more made a strong statement by not going to the
movie at all.

I'd recommend taking this down, because other wise, Eon Productions will probably file a law suit against you for libel and slander.

How about, instead of making this a hate website against Daniel Craig, why don't you turn it into a support website for Pierce Brosnan? Like calling it "Pierceforever.com" or something like that, then updating the website with what movies Pierce is going to be in. I'm pretty sure Pierce wouldn't want you guys to boycott the franchise, given the fact it saved his career and he's shown support for the new actor. I mean you guys are Bond fans, right?

Final question: Who's really in charge of this website?

Post by **James** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:56 pm

Brayton parted from CNB some time ago. It was stated on the website. The individuals on this forum do not all concur 100% with Mario Bruno or whoever and everything said a year ago because they are individuals and not CNB webmasters from early 2006. I think hate website is a bit strong. As I've said before a number of actors have got a kicking on other Bond forums and some off-colour stuff has been said in other places.

TheManWithNoName · Post by **TheManWithNoName** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:58 pm

James wrote:Brayton parted from CNB some time ago. It was stated on the website. The individuals on this forum do not all concur 100% with Mario Bruno or whoever and everything said a year ago because they are individuals and not CNB webmasters from early 2006. I think hate website is a bit strong. As I've said before a number of actors have got a kicking on other Bond forums and some off-colour stuff has been said in other places.

This may be true, but no one has ever personally attacked a Bond actor on different websites.

Post by **James** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:00 pm

Are you sure about that?

TheManWithNoName · Post by **TheManWithNoName** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:06 pm

James wrote:Are you sure about that?

I've never seen anyone from CBN, MI6, Unversal Exports, or AJB007 personally go after another Bond actor, I mean aside for the ocasional "____" sucked. But if they have, it doesn't give you guys the right to do it. Two wrongs don't make a right. I've also never seen anyone boycott a Bond film just because they don't like the change of the actor.

In fact, I remember this website was flaming Daniel Craig before the movie came out, which was utterly stupid, not to mention trying to ruin the man's career.

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:37 pm

James wrote:Are you sure about that?

I don't recall seeing any hate campaign on the Bond websites. There may be many forum posts slagging off certain actors, but this is no reflection on what is posted on the websites themselves.

Robert Stirling · Post by **Robert Stirling** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:55 pm

I can't understand one thing: why on earth can't I boycott the film because I don't like the change of the actor?! What's the reason? Is that because I saw a couple of previous Bond films? Or maybe because I browse some Bond-related websites from time to time? Explain to me if you could.
Is being so-called Bond fan means that you're obliged to see every Bond film? It's strange because I've always thought that it depends only on me whether I want to see particular film or not.

Post by **James** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:33 pm

TheManWithNoName wrote:
James wrote:Are you sure about that?
I've never seen anyone from CBN, MI6, Unversal Exports, or AJB007 personally go after another Bond actor, I mean aside for the ocasional "____" sucked. But if they have, it doesn't give you guys the right to do it. Two wrongs don't make a right. I've also never seen anyone boycott a Bond film just because they don't like the change of the actor.

Here's a recent post on MI6 by someone called Dr Kaufman:

I managed two registrations:
PierceBrosnanlivesupmybum AND PierceBrosnanisanoldfag...

It was left on the site by the mods. A simple yes or no answer, is that funny or acceptable?

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:04 pm

James wrote:
TheManWithNoName wrote:
James wrote:Are you sure about that?
I've never seen anyone from CBN, MI6, Unversal Exports, or AJB007 personally go after another Bond actor, I mean aside for the ocasional "____" sucked. But if they have, it doesn't give you guys the right to do it. Two wrongs don't make a right. I've also never seen anyone boycott a Bond film just because they don't like the change of the actor.

Here's a recent post on MI6 by someone called Dr Kaufman:

I managed two registrations:
PierceBrosnanlivesupmybum AND PierceBrosnanisanoldfag...

It was left on the site by the mods. A simple yes or no answer, is that funny or acceptable?

Yes, it's childish, and not really that funny. But this is a forum post, and NOT a statement on the website itself. There is a difference.

And looking at that post further, it is obvious the intention is to wind this site up by having that as a registration name. This site does have a reputation for not just slandering Craig, but also worshipping Brosnan to a God-like status. So I'm guessing the Brosnan insult was a direct attack on this site personally. It is a reaction to what this site has been about.

I actually think the OTT Brosnan-bashing these past few months has gained momentum unnecessarily, because of the campaign this particular website has tried to pursue. It is a direct reaction, and has brought out the worst in everybody.

TheManWithNoName · Post by **TheManWithNoName** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:41 pm

Robert Stirling wrote:I can't understand one thing: why on earth can't I boycott the film because I don't like the change of the actor?! What's the reason? Is that because I saw a couple of previous Bond films? Or maybe because I browse some Bond-related websites from time to time? Explain to me if you could.
Is beeing so-called Bond fan means that you're obliged to see every Bond film? It's strange because I've always thought that it depends only on me whether I want to see particular film or not.

Because a fan, you should know that Eon Productions is going to change the actor regardless even if the actor is your favorite actor of all time. I was torn when they replaced Michael Keaton with Val Kilmor, did I boycott the franchise? Nope, because I'm a fan of the movies, and I'd see the movies regardless of who the actor is.

Post by **James** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:45 pm

So that comment is not reflective of MI6? I agree. Just as everything CNB has said is not reflective of fans who dislike Craig (as James Bond) or even CNB itself now. The original webmaster of CNB, from what I can gather, made the site provocative in order to gain publicity and make it look like the work of someone younger than himself. Do I agree with everything that has been said on CNB since it started? No. Would I have tied the site into Pierce Brosnan so heavily? Nope. But again, I've seen Hugh Jackman called Hugh Jackass by a mod elsewhere, I've seen Clive Owen called a charmless berk by a mod elsewhere, I've seen Julian mcmahon called Mr potato Head elsewhere, I've seen some very iffy mini-campaigns agaisnt Goran V because he looks 'foreign'. Angelina Jolie got called all kinds of s**t when she was linked to the film. Wouldn't associate myself with any of that crap either and again, let's not pretend that everywhere apart from CNB is a paragon of virture. I remember looking at Cbn once and a poster who made a critique of Craig was responded to with a picture of a monkey at a typewriter. Nice forum. The reason why people like myself have pitched up here is because we were fed up of being treated like some religious heretic or a troll in other places because we didn't like the selection of Daniel Craig. Oddly enough this turned out to be a friendly forum where a range of views could meet and discuss all matters Craig and Bond. This of course is liable to come under strain when someone comes on here and does a load of snide posts that invariably begin with You Brosnan fanboys...

EDIT: This post is in reponse to The Sweeney.

Post by **James** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:54 pm

TheManWithNoName wrote:
Robert Stirling wrote:I can't understand one thing: why on earth can't I boycott the film because I don't like the change of the actor?! What's the reason? Is that because I saw a couple of previous Bond films? Or maybe because I browse some Bond-related websites from time to time? Explain to me if you could.
Is beeing so-called Bond fan means that you're obliged to see every Bond film? It's strange because I've always thought that it depends only on me whether I want to see particular film or not.
Because a fan, you should know that Eon Productions is going to change the actor regardless even if the actor is your favorite actor of all time. I was torn when they replaced Michael Keaton with Val Kilmor, did I boycott the franchise? Nope, because I'm a fan of the movies, and I'd see the movies regardless of who the actor is.

How about if they replaced Daniel Craig with Dustin Diamond or Kermit the Frog? Would you boycott the film or feel duty bound to go and see it?

(I'd pay money to see Dustin as James Bond...)

TheManWithNoName · Post by **TheManWithNoName** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:56 pm

James wrote:
TheManWithNoName wrote:
Robert Stirling wrote:I can't understand one thing: why on earth can't I boycott the film because I don't like the change of the actor?! What's the reason? Is that because I saw a couple of previous Bond films? Or maybe because I browse some Bond-related websites from time to time? Explain to me if you could.
Is beeing so-called Bond fan means that you're obliged to see every Bond film? It's strange because I've always thought that it depends only on me whether I want to see particular film or not.
Because a fan, you should know that Eon Productions is going to change the actor regardless even if the actor is your favorite actor of all time. I was torn when they replaced Michael Keaton with Val Kilmor, did I boycott the franchise? Nope, because I'm a fan of the movies, and I'd see the movies regardless of who the actor is.

How about if they replaced Daniel Craig with Dustin Diamond or Kermit the Frog? Would you boycott the film or feel duty bound to go and see it?

(I'd pay money to see Dustin as James Bond...)

I'd still go and see the film.

Post by **James** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:59 pm

Right.

Robert Stirling · Post by **Robert Stirling** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:13 pm

TheManWithNoName just a couple of additional questions:

Have you ever wondered why is sb a fan of sth? I for example am a fan of Bond franchise because once I saw the film I really enjoyed, then saw the next one with the same result and so forth. Now, I don't like the present flick but still do like the previous ones very much. Am I still a fan or not?

What for you go to the cinema? I go mainly for entertainment, so if sth is not entertaining to me I see no point in spending my money to see that sth.

And just one more thing. My favourite actor isn't Pierce Brosnan but Roger Moore and I wouldn't mind him playing Bond even now in his 80s. Despite Sir Roger's departure in 1985 I was still watching and enjoying subsequent Bond films.

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:31 pm

Robert Stirling wrote:TheManWithNoName just a couple of additional questions:

Have you ever wondered why sb is a fan of sth? I for example am a fan of Bond franchise because once I saw the film I really enjoyed, then saw the next one with the same result and so forth. Now, I don't like the present flick but still do like the previous ones very much. Am I still a fan or not?

What for you go to the cinema? I go mainly for entertainment, so if sth is not entertaining to me I see no point in spending my money to see that sth.

And just one more thing. My favourite actor isn't Pierce Brosnan but Roger Moore and I wouldn't mind him playing Bond even now in his 80s. Despite Sir Roger's departure in 1985 I was still watching and enjoying subsequent Bond films.

Whose sth? And who is sb? You've lost me...

And I hate Moore as Bond, I also didn't like Brosnan as Bond (and despised DAD), yet never boycotted any of his films, because I always lived in hope that one of his films would be ok.

Does this make me still a Bond fan....?

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:39 pm

James wrote:
TheManWithNoName wrote:
Robert Stirling wrote:I can't understand one thing: why on earth can't I boycott the film because I don't like the change of the actor?! What's the reason? Is that because I saw a couple of previous Bond films? Or maybe because I browse some Bond-related websites from time to time? Explain to me if you could.
Is beeing so-called Bond fan means that you're obliged to see every Bond film? It's strange because I've always thought that it depends only on me whether I want to see particular film or not.
Because a fan, you should know that Eon Productions is going to change the actor regardless even if the actor is your favorite actor of all time. I was torn when they replaced Michael Keaton with Val Kilmor, did I boycott the franchise? Nope, because I'm a fan of the movies, and I'd see the movies regardless of who the actor is.

How about if they replaced Daniel Craig with Dustin Diamond or Kermit the Frog? Would you boycott the film or feel duty bound to go and see it?

(I'd pay money to see Dustin as James Bond...)

There is a big difference between picking an actor that some say is the best since Connery, is acclaimed as being a very good actor and physically looks the part to some, compared to a green frog off the Muppet Show.

Of course no one would go and see Bond if Kermit was cast as Bond. Or if Danny De Vito was cast, or if Jack Nicholson was cast.

These are extreme cases of miscasting. But Craig is not an extreme casting decision. He has blonde hair and perhaps isn't as handsome as other Bond actors (although certain women may argue with me on this one), but if his casting was sooooooo far off the mark, why did so many people go and see it, and why are so many fans rejoing his casting by saying he is the best thing since Connery.

If his casting was so off the mark, then CR would not have been such a big hit.

Robert Stirling · Post by **Robert Stirling** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:00 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
Robert Stirling wrote:TheManWithNoName just a couple of additional questions:

Have you ever wondered why sb is a fan of sth? I for example am a fan of Bond franchise because once I saw the film I really enjoyed, then saw the next one with the same result and so forth. Now, I don't like the present flick but still do like the previous ones very much. Am I still a fan or not?

What for you go to the cinema? I go mainly for entertainment, so if sth is not entertaining to me I see no point in spending my money to see that sth.

And just one more thing. My favourite actor isn't Pierce Brosnan but Roger Moore and I wouldn't mind him playing Bond even now in his 80s. Despite Sir Roger's departure in 1985 I was still watching and enjoying subsequent Bond films.
Whose sth? And who is sb? You've lost me...

Ok, let's put it that way: why are you a fan of Bond franchise? And then: If CR wasn't entertaining to me at all I see no point in spending my money to see the next similar film (of course, there is slight possibility that this new film would be completely different. If so I might change my mind). For me it has nothing to do with being, or not, a Bond fan. All clear now?

Post by **The Sweeney** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:04 pm

Robert Stirling wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Robert Stirling wrote:TheManWithNoName just a couple of additional questions:

Have you ever wondered why sb is a fan of sth? I for example am a fan of Bond franchise because once I saw the film I really enjoyed, then saw the next one with the same result and so forth. Now, I don't like the present flick but still do like the previous ones very much. Am I still a fan or not?

What for you go to the cinema? I go mainly for entertainment, so if sth is not entertaining to me I see no point in spending my money to see that sth.

And just one more thing. My favourite actor isn't Pierce Brosnan but Roger Moore and I wouldn't mind him playing Bond even now in his 80s. Despite Sir Roger's departure in 1985 I was still watching and enjoying subsequent Bond films.
Whose sth? And who is sb? You've lost me...
Ok, let's put it that way: why are you a fan of Bond franchise? And then: If CR wasn't entertaining to me at all I see no point in spending my money to see the next similar film (of course, there is slight possibility that this new film would be completely different. If so I might change my mind). For me it has nothing to do with beeing, or not, a Bond fan. All clear now?

I'm a fan of the franchise mainly because of the novels, but I also really love a handful of the films too.

But who the hell is sth? and sb?

Post by **Skywalker** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:20 pm

The Sweeney wrote:
Robert Stirling wrote:TheManWithNoName just a couple of additional questions:

Have you ever wondered why sb is a fan of sth? I for example am a fan of Bond franchise because once I saw the film I really enjoyed, then saw the next one with the same result and so forth. Now, I don't like the present flick but still do like the previous ones very much. Am I still a fan or not?

What for you go to the cinema? I go mainly for entertainment, so if sth is not entertaining to me I see no point in spending my money to see that sth.

And just one more thing. My favourite actor isn't Pierce Brosnan but Roger Moore and I wouldn't mind him playing Bond even now in his 80s. Despite Sir Roger's departure in 1985 I was still watching and enjoying subsequent Bond films.
Whose sth? And who is sb? You've lost me...

And I hate Moore as Bond, I also didn't like Brosnan as Bond (and despised DAD), yet never boycotted any of his films, because I always lived in hope that one of his films would be ok.

Does this make me still a Bond fan....?

Do you hate GL as well?