The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[ns_writings]

I want to publicly apologize towards CraigNotBond for ever thinking you were going against the series and thinking that the boycott was exaggerated. History has proven you were right.

https://t.co/NCzfrLCHQ6?amp=1

My apologies, gentlemen. Friendly hugs.
And f*ck Daniel Craig.
And long live Pierce Brendan Brosnan, the last Bond.

[Kristatos]

What could go wromg here?! https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-59122546 I was wondeing what the Flemimg Estate thought of the ending of NTTD. I guess their fine with it. The general deconstrction of our heroes is awful.

It seems to me more like Ian Fleming Publications cashing in on the end of NTTD to sell a few more books. The audience for continuation novels is a tiny fraction of that for the movies, so I don't blame them for wanting to generate some news coverage. It's like when Marvel Comics announce that The Hulk is going to be gay or whatever, knowing full well that only about 20,000 people are going to buy the comics in question.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

https://t.co/NCzfrLCHQ6?amp=1

Daniel told the editor of the book: 'When I started as Bond on Casino Royale, one of the early discussions I had with Barbara [Broccolli] and Michael [G. Wilson] was that I would like to be killed off when I am finished.'

The arrogance of this man.

[Jason]

Kris- They are making the same exact mistake that the MCU is doing at present. The MCU killed off IronMan and have been relegated to featuring the Eternals, Shang-Chi, etc. If they think Bond fans are really clamoring for a transexual 006 adventure they have another thing coming. Looks like Amazon is setting the stage for mini-spinoffs with this but I really don't care for the MoneyPenny Diares or Woke 005. Give us Bond back (but they won't). Cheers to you all.

[Jason]

https://t.co/NCzfrLCHQ6?amp=1

Daniel told the editor of the book: 'When I started as Bond on Casino Royale, one of the early discussions I had with Barbara [Broccolli] and Michael [G. Wilson] was that I would like to be killed off when I am finished.'

The arrogance of this man.

Great take.

[Kristatos]

Looks like Amazon is setting the stage for mini-spinoffs with this.

The Amazon takeover doesn't affect Ian Fleming Publications. The books and the films are separate beasts, though that doesn't mean that they don't influence each other (the Bond of the Raymond Benson novels being recognisably Brosnan's Bond, for example.)

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[bjmdds]

Bond spinoffs won't work. Broccoli tried her creative hand with The Rhythm Section and that humiliated her, as would any spinoff combining "inclusive" 00 agents. That duck would sink.....that plane won't fly..........that film would flop!

[ns_writings]

Looks like Amazon is setting the stage for mini-spinoffs with this.

The Amazon takeover doesn't affect Ian Fleming Publications. The books and the films are separate beasts, though that doesn't mean that they don't influence each other (the Bond of the Raymond Benson novels being recognisably Brosnan's Bond, for example.)

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If I remember correctly, I was once told or Benson himself told me that in the 90s/00s they tried to merge the cinematic and literary Bond into one, hence the similarities between the Benson novels and the Brosnan films (Bond using the Walther P99, a female M). Normally, I wouldn't mind a 00 section spin-off (I wouldn't be too much interested either), but this context where "Bond is missing and presumed dead" in the 21st century sounds very similar to TTD and the idea behind TTD: Bond is not worth anymore, we don't need him, because he's sexist and objectifies women and all that crap. There'll be a new Horowitz novel with Bond, but once again, back in the 60s. To me, the character was never meant to be stuck in a decade. Moore, Dalton and Brosnan showed how he could appeal to new generations and could be a hero for our days.

[bjmdds]

Here is the ending scene gang:

[Kristatos]

There'll be a new Horowitz novel with Bond, but once again, back in the 60s. To me, the character was never meant to be stuck in a decade. Moore, Dalton and Brosnan showed how he could appeal to new generations and could be a hero for our days.

I've never understood the desire of a certain section of the fanbase for future Bond films to be done as period pieces. Mostly, it just boils down to a love of 1960s aesthetics, but as I've said before, the Kingsman films show how that aesthetic can be used in a contemporary setting.

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[kater23]

KingsMan movies are great(if not violent but,um hello so are the Bond films!)

[Kristatos]

Haha, just saw my Google Chrome homepage and there was a story on there from the Daily Express with a headline saying something like "Next James Bond: future of 007 revealed, a trilogy and new 00 agents." It was obviously about the books, but it was illustrated with a still from NTTD, so that people would think it was about the films. They really are shameless in their clickbait!

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[ns_writings]

There'll be a new Horowitz novel with Bond, but once again, back in the 60s. To me, the character was never meant to be stuck in a decade. Moore, Dalton and Brosnan showed how he could appeal to new generations and could be a hero for our days.

I've never understood the desire of a certain section of the fanbase for future Bond films to be done as period pieces. Mostly, it just boils down to a love of 1960s aesthetics, but as I've said before, the Kingsman films show how that aesthetic can be used in a contemporary setting.

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100% agreed. First time I watched GoldenEye, I never saw a character from the 60s there. If my father hadn't told me there were earlier Bond adventures and that he saw The Man With The Golden Gun in the cinema during his teens, I would have never imagined this character was created in 1962 and the first novel came out in 1953. The point is, I grew up watching a 90s action hero whose tropes also existed in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s. I remember people in high school or earlier insisting me that "James Bond was something old" and seeing him as a 60s character because he used suits and a tux and things like that, but the films always showed us how Bond could be relevant in our days, no matter how many people would question his relevance. Bond was never from the 60s or 50s, he was a man for all seasons... except the 2020s, courtesy of the traitors at EON and IFP.

[Omega]

I think the old bond series had it right bond just moved on not looking back. So you could have updated adventures with out worrying about staring true to the 1953 origins story or live and let dies attitudes on race.
Brosnan was me and my brothers bond, I also detoured a bit to enjoy Dalton. I think brosnan was very good for the 90-00s, the shame is eon wasted him by not even trying to utilize everything he could have brought to the role. Arguable his performance is Die another Day was one of his best as Bond, he was a good trooper and made the anniversary (which had never been celebrated before) film EON wanted , instead of being a pompous actor like Craig he made the movie presented him in the script and the director gave the matrix rip-off visuals eon wanted.

I think the Craig era will be remembered as kind of wasted time where bond franchise didn’t really move or evolve. Cubby with the funding Babs had and demand would never have slowed production to make a movie every 4-5 years.

Thing about the 40 years before Craig is even if you didn’t like a movie you probably enjoyed something about it and had fun anticipating what will come next. So the 40 years and 20 movies was something to experience. Craig’s 5 movies have to be out side the previous 40 years, it’s own variant mini verse, I don’t think that’s as satisfying as being able to enjoy LTK and Goldeneye as part of the same series.


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[Omega]

Almost forgot Netflix new animated series Inside Job (which is a mix of mib and Rick and morty) had a bond spoof which made fun of the classic image of bond like Austin powers did, then the twist is distinct to Craig era of there being a weird sexual chemistry between their mi6 agent and weird main villain. This can only come from Craig’s bond starting with the torture in Casino Royale through skyfall , spectre and his final film


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[bjmdds]

I just watched The Rise Of Skywalker on cable tv for the first time.......... .............what a waste of time Suddenly Palpatine is somehow alive and cameos are given to Leia, Luke, Han Solo, and Lando with a boring portrayal for the lead character Rey to promote female power in Hollywood. Unreal. Four writers wrote this story it said in the credits. It took 4 people to come up with such drivel? Kylo Ren was a horrible character in this trilogy to watch. No wonder it only scored a 52% on RT.

[Kristatos]

Four writers wrote this story it said in the credits. It took 4 people to come up with such drivel?

I think it's a case of too many cooks spoiling the broth. It's a Frankenfilm made from stitching together bits from a bunch of different, and probably much better, screenplays.

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[dirtybenny]

Four writers wrote this story it said in the credits. It took 4 people to come up with such drivel?

I think it's a case of too many cooks spoiling the broth. It's a Frankenfilm made from stitching together bits from a bunch of different, and probably much better, screenplays.

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Sounds like another film we're intimately concerned with!

[old1f5k]

I think the Craig era will be remembered as kind of wasted time where bond franchise didn’t really move or evolve. Cubby with the funding Babs had and demand would never have slowed production to make a movie every 4-5 years.

Thing about the 40 years before Craig is even if you didn’t like a movie you probably enjoyed something about it and had fun anticipating what will come next. So the 40 years and 20 movies was something to experience. Craig’s 5 movies have to be out side the previous 40 years, it’s own variant mini verse, I don’t think that’s as satisfying as being able to enjoy LTK and Goldeneye as part of the same series.


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For some Craig era will remembered as overrated, bond for the mainstream and people who dont like bond with a exeption of 3 or 4 movies, actor playing bond has producer status. Casino Royale is so overrated but to majority of youtubers this is best bond movie. I dont think craig era didnt move or evolve bond franchise, it did and to a places where it didnt never should go. i seen some people were sad becouse bond is you know what at the end of NTTD but they are wrong becouse craig wasnt the same bond as connery, lazenby, moore, dalton, brosnan. another thing is this 4-5 year gap between movies, if craig stopped at skyfall and they switched to cavil and come back to 2 year gap, then we could be in 2 movie with better bond.

[dirtybenny]

I think the Craig era will be remembered as kind of wasted time where bond franchise didn’t really move or evolve. Cubby with the funding Babs had and demand would never have slowed production to make a movie every 4-5 years.

Thing about the 40 years before Craig is even if you didn’t like a movie you probably enjoyed something about it and had fun anticipating what will come next. So the 40 years and 20 movies was something to experience. Craig’s 5 movies have to be out side the previous 40 years, it’s own variant mini verse, I don’t think that’s as satisfying as being able to enjoy LTK and Goldeneye as part of the same series.


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For some Craig era will remembered as overrated, bond for the mainstream and people who dont like bond with a exeption of 3 or 4 movies, actor playing bond has producer status. Casino Royale is so overrated but to majority of youtubers this is best bond movie. I dont think craig era didnt move or evolve bond franchise, it did and to a places where it didnt never should go. i seen some people were sad becouse bond is you know what at the end of NTTD but they are wrong becouse craig wasnt the same bond as connery, lazenby, moore, dalton, brosnan. another thing is this 4-5 year gap between movies, if craig stopped at skyfall and they switched to cavil and come back to 2 year gap, then we could be in 2 movie with better bond.

Watched all of the videos the two Scottish blokes you linked to made about Bond, as BJ would say: "They know their onions."

https://www.youtube.com/c/ChrisGrantMcP ... mes%20bond