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It's one's interpretation of how they perceive a photo to be, there is no proof needed, it is subjective. Subjectivity has no armour, no walls, for whatever is left, is one's own opinion. Do you like 'red wine with fish?'
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Refering to the photo, you do know woman don't have to be aroused for that to happen don't you?
You're reading more into this than there is. You're making things up and passing it off as the truth.
And I realise it's a line in From Russia With Love, but what does 'red wine and fish' have to do with anything.
I can see why the other Bond sites locked half of your topics. You make up stories which you seem to believe are true, then if people don't like it you have a tantrum. I'd say there loss wasn't a great one.
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BB obviously had her reasons for getting rid of Brosnan. Whether it was the right decision or not depends on how you percieve the Bond character to be played and who should be in the role. I suppose we all have our opinions.

I acknowledge that CR has had more admissions than DAD, but when compared with the % increase GE obtained from LTK. You can appreciate that PB had more of an impact than DC had.

PB's popularity did not wain with Joe public (Only with a majority of hardcore fans) so IMO he could well have made a successful 5th outing as Bond had he been given the opportunity.
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Post by Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry »

Why didn't Eon make another farewell Brosnan movie in 2004 and then Broccoli could have got Daniel Craig in for 2006/07. :?:

p.s. why is everyone posting just in this thread!!!!
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Skywalker wrote:BB obviously had her reasons for getting rid of Brosnan. Whether it was the right decision or not depends on how you percieve the Bond character to be played and who should be in the role. I suppose we all have our opinions.

I acknowledge that CR has had more admissions than DAD, but when compared with the % increase GE obtained from LTK. You can appreciate that PB had more of an impact than DC had.

PB's popularity did not wain with Joe public (Only with a majority of hardcore fans) so IMO he could well have made a successful 5th outing as Bond had he been given the opportunity.
I agree with you on this Skywalker, Brosnan could've done a fifth, and I would've like him too. But he had no contract and the producers (not just Barbara Broccoli ) for one reason or another chose not to renew it. It is there choice to do so. The re-boot and new direction would not have worked if Pierce had done it and then retired, I guess that Eon wanted to make CR and change the style sooner rather than later. Either way they did, and I'm okay with it. I never felt for poor Pierce or what a sh*t thing to do. He's a big boy now, and he must've known the end was coming.


On a side note Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry after reading bjmdds posts on another forum he leeches onto a host and doesn't let go. Untill of course it goes over the same subject over and over and then get's locked at which time he spits the dummy. What he fails to realise is that topics change direction, discussions grow and people don't want to harp on about the same cr*p for 20 pages.
It's interesting you should be fed up of it so soon. The poor chaps over at CBn and Mi6 had to endure far more than this.
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Captain Nash wrote:Refering to the photo, you do know woman don't have to be aroused for that to happen don't you?
You're reading more into this than there is. You're making things up and passing it off as the truth.
Ah, you're no fun any more, Captain. First you try to stop us moaning about Craig, now we're not even allowed to extract the urine out of Barbara Broccoli's THOs. What other of life's simple pleasures would you like to deprive us of?
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I can think of several off hand.
But as children post on this forum I'll keep that to myself. :lol:
Sorry to disapoint Kristatos, you know how much fun I have here, I was hoping you were keeping up. :)
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Captain Nash wrote: But as children post on this forum.
and as you write like one. :wink:
Captain Nash wrote:I was hoping you were keeping up. :)
But's it's plainly obvious you can't, Nash. :wink:
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Captain Nash wrote:Refering to the photo, you do know woman don't have to be aroused for that to happen don't you?
You're reading more into this than there is. You're making things up and passing it off as the truth.
And I realise it's a line in From Russia With Love, but what does 'red wine and fish' have to do with anything.
I can see why the other Bond sites locked half of your topics. You make up stories which you seem to believe are true, then if people don't like it you have a tantrum. I'd say there loss wasn't a great one.
Tantrum? Far from it, I never argue with anyone's perspective, just state my own. It is you who are in combative mode, ala DogBond in the MI6 forum site. The reason those 2 threads at MI6 were locked was due to being very popular, and the moderators had counter preferences, as one ADMITTED to upon locking it. If Nash finds this topic not to his liking, Nash can leave and post somewhere else. If Nash finds this topic interesting, Nash can post here as well. That is an open exchange of subjective opinion, and THAT is the purpose of these threads.
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Skywalker wrote:BB obviously had her reasons for getting rid of Brosnan. Whether it was the right decision or not depends on how you percieve the Bond character to be played and who should be in the role. I suppose we all have our opinions.

I acknowledge that CR has had more admissions than DAD, but when compared with the % increase GE obtained from LTK. You can appreciate that PB had more of an impact than DC had.

PB's popularity did not wain with Joe public (Only with a majority of hardcore fans) so IMO he could well have made a successful 5th outing as Bond had he been given the opportunity.
The percentage increase from Dalton's LTK to Brosnan's GE is what may have saved the franchise as well. The Bond saga was in dire straights from 1987-1995, and Brosnan masterfully resurrected it from possible oblivion. Imagine if Dalton did a third film and got even poorer results than LTK?
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bjmdds wrote:The percentage increase from Dalton's LTK to Brosnan's GE is what may have saved the franchise as well. The Bond saga was in dire straights from 1987-1995, and Brosnan masterfully resurrected it from possible oblivion. Imagine if Dalton did a third film and got even poorer results than LTK?
I guess the paymasters wouldn't take that risk. LTK is a good film in my view, but not as popular with the wider audience. From a continued production POV, Brosnan did save the franchise. If TD had continued and his next film had even lower admissions, it could well have been Goodnight Mr Bond.
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bjmdds wrote: The reason those 2 threads at MI6 were locked was due to being very popular, and the moderators had counter preferences, as one ADMITTED to upon locking it.
No bj, as I mentioned to you before, it was because the thread was based entirely around one person's opinion on CR - where a thread for CR reviews existed somewhere else. I also had my own review thread closed for the same reason - and my opinion on CR was somewhat different to yours.... :wink:
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Willy, I mean Sweeney, read what Luds said when he locked it, it was very evident it annoyed him. How are the DVD sales of CR going in the UK? Did you purchase it yet?
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Skywalker wrote:
bjmdds wrote:The percentage increase from Dalton's LTK to Brosnan's GE is what may have saved the franchise as well. The Bond saga was in dire straights from 1987-1995, and Brosnan masterfully resurrected it from possible oblivion. Imagine if Dalton did a third film and got even poorer results than LTK?
I guess the paymasters wouldn't take that risk. LTK is a good film in my view, but not as popular with the wider audience. From a continued production POV, Brosnan did save the franchise. If TD had continued and his next film had even lower admissions, it could well have been Goodnight Mr Bond.
LTK and CR are both more down to earth Bond films, yet LTK did poorly at the box office, and CR did well. Was Dalton that poor a Bond choice as compared to Craig, for basically a similar styled Bond film?
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bjmdds wrote:LTK and CR are both more down to earth Bond films, yet LTK did poorly at the box office, and CR did well. Was Dalton that poor a Bond choice as compared to Craig, for basically a similar styled Bond film?
I guess it's all in the timing. The audience at the time LTK was made clearly weren't in the mood for a more Flemingesque portrayal of Bond. Plus CR was better marketed.
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And Licence To Kill was released in the summer of 1989 with a crappy campaign rather than the now familiar november release for Bond films.
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bjmdds wrote:Willy, I mean Sweeney, read what Luds said when he locked it, it was very evident it annoyed him. How are the DVD sales of CR going in the UK? Did you purchase it yet?
Yup! Certainly have!! Watched it twice.

DVD sales are going swimmingly here.....check this out -

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=20554
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The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Willy, I mean Sweeney, read what Luds said when he locked it, it was very evident it annoyed him. How are the DVD sales of CR going in the UK? Did you purchase it yet?
Yup! Certainly have!! Watched it twice.

DVD sales are going swimmingly here.....check this out -

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=20554
The UK really is enamoured with Craig's first Bond flick. How much did you pay for it?
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007 wrote:And Licence To Kill was released in the summer of 1989 with a crappy campaign rather than the now familiar november release for Bond films.
Do you think a 42 year old Dalton could have pulled off a success with CR if marketed as is now done? Also, I just watched Fantastic Four, with two of the supposed candidates who were considered as Bond, Julian McMahon and Ionn Gruffudd. I cannot envision either one of them as Bond.
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Do you think a 42 year old Dalton could have pulled off a success with CR if marketed as is now done?
Yes. Put a 40/42 year old Dalton in Casino Royale with a quiet november release, the PR blitz from Sony, all the publicity, good reviews etc and it's a hit. Martin Campbell would be calling him the best actor to ever play Bond but there wouldn't be a DaltonnotBond.com because Dalton actually looked like a James Bond, unlike Daniel Craig.
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