The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Omega]

You know as they out the bad guys maybe they should mention the people who treated them with respect too?
I was surprised in the Dustin Hoffman story how many of the big stars seemed to be cool and classy while Hoffman was a sleazy.


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[Omega]

To be fair, so would the classic Bond (you do know there's no such thing as a licence to kill, right?). But at least it wouldn't be for dereliction of duty.

True. But, the thing is, the Classic Bond didn't try to portray realism. At least not since Goldfinger. In his universe, there 'was' a license to kill.

Bond's remark to Scaramanga comes to mind:
"When I kill, it's on specific orders of my government. And those I kill are themselves killers."

The license to kill is a fiction far as we know, who knows maybe it was a unofficial term in Fleming’s time but as it stands it’s part of the fictional world of bond akin to a hunting license. Bond is at least professional and when he did go “rogue” it was at M’s discretion, he didn’t quit or disappear to do something M had absolutely no idea about, it was jobs M couldn’t sanction on behalf of the government of England. On his best rogue mission movie Q shows up, so how behind M back was he really operating?

In Craig’s world bond is a huge screw up, from his mission to get 00, fist mission as a 00 to getting M killed, his brofeld saga and the numerous times he walks away from his agency.
My point was the “gritty and real “ bond Craig is credited with in a “gritty and real” world is up on charges.
Craig’s bond is opposite of the real James Bond to make it “refreshing” after 40 years of the same kind of character. Forgetting in 40 years we got 20 movies and Craig’s stale bond is holding at maybe five movies in 14 years. Aside from the character being turned on his head to a person who could never get the accomplishments the original bond did, Babs wanted to make emotional soap opera stories about bond personal life which completely goes against what Fleming wrote so much Babs had to invent a huge portion of the new history to support the emotional scars she wants.


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[Omega]

I have been to Ragnarok and it is good. Kind of a 80s techno sound track. guardians of the galaxy feel too


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[bjmdds]

“One in five (23%) of Americans age 21-29 consider Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin a ‘hero’; 26% for Vladimir Lenin; 23% for Kim Jong Un,” the study notes. Furthermore, over one-fifth of millennials surveyed had a positive opinion of Karl Marx. The poll demonstrated an increase in acceptance of socialism and communism among American millennials and was released by the Victims of Communism Memorial Fund.

[Kristatos]

Meaning 4 in 5 don't.

Changing the subject, what do folks here reckon to the box office chances of this starry new version of Murder on the Orient Express? A big-budget Hercule Poirot mystery with an all-star cast seems like a throwback to my childhood. ISTR a couple with Albert Finney as Poirot back in the late '70s.

[John P. Drake]

Poirot's look is rather ridiculous in my opinion. That overly long mustache and the soul patch look like they're photoshopped on Kenneth Branagh.

[Blowfeld]

Flop! Personally I enjoy all sorts of mysteries and I was not persuaded to leave confines of my cloister to venture out to see it. I do not believe modern audiences will be swayed by the all star cast like we were. Besides Kenneth Branagh looks ridiculous, Doc holiday perhaps not Poirot. He is a great actor so maybe he will pull off a good Poirot however it will be difficult to best David Suchet, David also had very good version of the same story recently.

[Blowfeld]

In this climate of the post Weinstein era of entertainment industry sexual predation is there a possibility of the James Bond franchise being dragged down by the movement? In the current situation it would take only one story perhaps two to tear down Ms Broccoli's empire, anything from her behaviour to the crew. Do her employees have enough self control not to talk out of school? Are all guest actors of the recent past reasonably happy with their treatment on the set? Does anybody hold a serious grudge? Has Daniel behaved himself on the sets of his other projects?
I am reasonably certain something probably has happened during the last twenty years of Barbara's stewardship, what protected the Broccoli family as well as the whole industry was the Hollywood code of silence and power of the industry to crush the lives of the little people. This protecting is waning in favour of protecting the victims, rightfully so, however it also has the danger of a witch hunt. Personally I do not think we are there yet, nor anywhere near a purging of the predators operating right now. My own outrage joins much of the public after learning of actresses being assaulted, it's feels personal when we know of the people it happened to. The reaction right now while justified could easily build to peasants storming the castle.

[Kristatos]

I wonder if Stephanie Sigman has anything to say?

[bjmdds]

On Friday, Hannity's independent film Let There Be Light topped Clooney's Suburbicon, with 70% fewer theatres to boot ---------------------------10---LET THERE BE LIGHT
Atlas Distribution

641-- $500,000



11-- THE FOREIGNER
STX Entertainment

1,456-- $417,000



12 SUBURBICON
Paramount

2,046-- $360,000

[Omega]

That suburicon is a money losing vanity project to start with, they spent more on it than the studio that owns it now paid for the rights to it.

Next Matt Damon money loser for Hollywood will probably downsize, really creepy vibe from that film.


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[Omega]

I wonder if Stephanie Sigman has anything to say?

she seems happy enough, but if it become the next status symbol for a actor to have filed out a sexual assault complaint a major studio who knows. But honestly working in Mexico film industry where I imagine the oversight is lax I don’t doubt she some stories that might shock us.



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[bjmdds]

Thor: Ragnarok $121,005,000

[carl stromberg]

Flop! Personally I enjoy all sorts of mysteries and I was not persuaded to leave confines of my cloister to venture out to see it. I do not believe modern audiences will be swayed by the all star cast like we were. Besides Kenneth Branagh looks ridiculous, Doc holiday perhaps not Poirot. He is a great actor so maybe he will pull off a good Poirot however it will be difficult to best David Suchet, David also had very good version of the same story recently.

I normally watch the the 70s Murder on the Orient Express and the Ustinov Agatha Christie adaptions such as Death on the Nile and Evil Under the Sun at Christmas when they are on.

[Omega]

Orient express is going against Thor next weekend, I’m not sure how it will do, they advertised it all over the World Series, don’t think that’s the key demographic for this film but it was a large audience.


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[bjmdds]

Hannity's Let There Be Light (#10) religious film topped Clooney's Suburbicon (#13) trash again

[Omega]

Murder on the orient express made $6.5 million in the uk, is that good?


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[Kristatos]

Murder on the orient express made $6.5 million in the uk, is that good?

Not really. Box Office Mojo's all-time opening weekend chart for the UK, Ireland and Malta (which are treated as a single territory for box office purposes, the way the US and Canada are) ends at #192 with Legend, which opened with just over $8 million. The chart entries do not have hyperlinks to individual films, so it is not clear which Legend they mean - the '80s fantasy film directed by Ridley Scott, or the one with Tom Hardy as the Kray Twins. I'm guessing the latter, as box office takings would have been much lower 30 years ago, due to inflation.

[Omega]

Ok there was a story about it beating Thor 3 so I thought maybe that was a good weekend.
Guess the orient express is lucky Sean hannity didn’t target them this weekend


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[Kristatos]

Thor was in its second weekend here. It opened with over $16 million.