The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

Get rid of Broccoli too for she is the impediment to success and I am sure FBF would agree

In the alternative universe, Cubby has a namesake son who follows the traditional ways and gave Pierce not only a longer term as Bond but also a creative freedom in a more grittier Bond.

7 years as Bond for Brosnan and Cr-egg is still "active" after 11 years since CR.

[Veronica]

Get rid of Broccoli too for she is the impediment to success and I am sure FBF would agree

In the alternative universe, Cubby has a namesake son who follows the traditional ways and gave Pierce not only a longer term as Bond but also a creative freedom in a more grittier Bond.

It's better not to cry over spilt milk now. What's done is done and we can't go back and improve on Brosnan's movies or give him a longer Bond career. What we can do know is to hope better days than the Craig ones are ahead of us.

[kater23]

NEW YORK — The Northeast is bracing for winter’s last hurrah — a blizzard expected to sweep the New York region starting Monday with possibly the season’s biggest snowstorm dumping up to "18" inches on Central Park.

The National Weather Service issued a blizzard watch Sunday for coastal regions including New York City and surrounding areas of Long Island, Westchester County and Connecticut.

A winter storm watch was in effect for a larger area of the Northeast: New Jersey, Pennsylvania and New England.

Any chance of a short getaway to someplace warm? *justsayin'*

[Napoleon Solo]

It's official: Time for Bond fans to cool off about Bond 25

http://bit.ly/2mAeg3f

[bjmdds]

Brosnan's and FBF's daily dart board for sure -----------Eon Productions is involved in another non-007 film, Variety reported. The film is titled Nancy and is a “psychological drama” starring Andrea Riseborough, according to the entertainment website. Here’s an excerpt: Riseborough plays a serial imposter, who becomes perilously close to losing her entire identity — and the only person who’s ever truly loved her — when her elaborate lies inevitably unravel. Principal photography has started in upstate New York with a "crew comprised of all-female" department heads. The film will be produced by Amy Lo, Michelle Cameron, and Riseborough. “Nancy” is a Mental Pictures, Mother Sucker, and Eon Productions movie, in association with Gamechanger Films. Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson of Eon Productions will be among the executive producers, according to Variety.........do you see what Broccoli is all about with all FEMALE department heads? She obviously hates men, except for her lap dog who is on her leash Case closed

[bjmdds]

NEW YORK — The Northeast is bracing for winter’s last hurrah — a blizzard expected to sweep the New York region starting Monday with possibly the season’s biggest snowstorm dumping up to "18" inches on Central Park.

The National Weather Service issued a blizzard watch Sunday for coastal regions including New York City and surrounding areas of Long Island, Westchester County and Connecticut.

A winter storm watch was in effect for a larger area of the Northeast: New Jersey, Pennsylvania and New England.

Any chance of a short getaway to someplace warm? *justsayin'*

It's bad news what they are predicting MP 40 mph winds with 18" of snow over a 36 hour period

[FormerBondFan]

What we can do know is to hope better days than the Craig ones are ahead of us.

Here's the solution: Kingsman 2 and Mission: Impossible 6.

[Veronica]

It's official: Time for Bond fans to cool off about Bond 25

http://bit.ly/2mAeg3f

By the time EON actually decides to do another Bond movie Turner could as well be approaching 50.

[Count_Lippe]

Craig does not look good in any of the suits he wears . Dalton and brosnan made me think maybe I should buy a suit, hell kingsman made me think it too. Craig looks like his shrank in the wash
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That's actually fashionable at the moment, suits that look like they shrunk. It looks stupid but it's not Craig's fault after all. The people at EON who are responsible for costume design are to blame for not going for a more classic look.

[Omega]

It's official: Time for Bond fans to cool off about Bond 25

http://bit.ly/2mAeg3f

that sort of what I thought when people went crazy about the helicopter purchase. Weird to have eon working on others projects for the first time since chitty chitty bang bang


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[Dalton exMI6]

As I've said before on here, if a black actor becomes Bond I am done with the franchise.

I just watched TLD and LTK back to back today and forgot what a great time it was to be a Bond fan back then. I was never happy with the Brosnan era, but seeing Dalton in the role again, I had forgotten how perfect he was for the role - far more than Craig.

Dalton really got the character, and the producers back then also went to great lengths to honour the Fleming books too. LTK really feels like a Fleming novel, helped on by a few key scenes taken from the books. It also helps that Dalton looked the part too.

After CR, I really feel now looking back on DC's tenure is that it all went downhill. QoS was a bit of a mess, and SF and SP don't excite me watching them anymore, particularly when there are no moments from the novels, and Bond became superhuman again. We are basically back to the Brosnan era MkII.

Since 1987, there are only 2 movies that I rate highly as Bond films - LTK and CR. 2 out of 9 films isn't very good, particularly when that time span stretches over 30 years.

Good to see appreciation of Dalton and the effort he put into the authenticity of the character. It p**ses me off no end, how some so called Bond fans give Craig the credit for Dalton's work.

And you are right about the more miss than hit quality of EON under Babs. I very much like Brosnan, but, the producers reduced the dimensions of the Bond character during his reign to make an easier buck at the box office. Yes, Goldeneye was fine, but, that was developed before Dalton quit the role. Michael France wrote the story with Dalton in mind and it is Brosnan's best film.

And had Casino Royale had a younger Dalton, then it would have been infinitely better than the Craggers film. There is a reason Fleming gave Bond Byronic qualities and Craig is the antithesis of Byronic.

I to this day regret that Clive Owen was not cast as Bond for CR.

I am reading the Fleming novels and it becomes apparent that some Bond fans have not invested the time in reading them, because page after page, it becomes obvious that Craig is NOT Fleming's Bond by any stretch. Only an illiterate moron would say Craig got closer to Fleming than Dalton.

When I read the novels I visualise Connery and Dalton the most.

Agree totally.

Incidentally, I just saw the making of TLD, and Michael Wilson says on camera that they were looking at the possibility of exploring Bond's childhood, but Cubby was dead against the idea and told them to focus more on existing Fleming material instead.

Cubby was 100% right. He probably wouldn't be too happy with what the producers and writers came up with in SF and particularly SP, having Bond and Blofeld being brothers.

Thank you! TLD has some great documentaries and Dalton is pure class in the Dalton On Acting part. He is like Prince Charles how he talks.

Cubby knew Fleming and knew that there are lines not to cross with the character of Bond . The Craig era demystified Bond and added many absurdities to the lore. May as well add in that M was his real mother, which is perfectly in line with the Blofeld being his step brother.

For me, the Craggers era is a standalone series and has no place with the classic 1962 to 2002 series.

Bond is a veteran character and the less you know about his past, the better.

[Dalton exMI6]

As I've said before on here, if a black actor becomes Bond I am done with the franchise.

I just watched TLD and LTK back to back today and forgot what a great time it was to be a Bond fan back then. I was never happy with the Brosnan era, but seeing Dalton in the role again, I had forgotten how perfect he was for the role - far more than Craig.

Dalton really got the character, and the producers back then also went to great lengths to honour the Fleming books too. LTK really feels like a Fleming novel, helped on by a few key scenes taken from the books. It also helps that Dalton looked the part too.

After CR, I really feel now looking back on DC's tenure is that it all went downhill. QoS was a bit of a mess, and SF and SP don't excite me watching them anymore, particularly when there are no moments from the novels, and Bond became superhuman again. We are basically back to the Brosnan era MkII.

Since 1987, there are only 2 movies that I rate highly as Bond films - LTK and CR. 2 out of 9 films isn't very good, particularly when that time span stretches over 30 years.

Good to see appreciation of Dalton and the effort he put into the authenticity of the character. It p**ses me off no end, how some so called Bond fans give Craig the credit for Dalton's work.

And you are right about the more miss than hit quality of EON under Babs. I very much like Brosnan, but, the producers reduced the dimensions of the Bond character during his reign to make an easier buck at the box office. Yes, Goldeneye was fine, but, that was developed before Dalton quit the role. Michael France wrote the story with Dalton in mind and it is Brosnan's best film.

And had Casino Royale had a younger Dalton, then it would have been infinitely better than the Craggers film. There is a reason Fleming gave Bond Byronic qualities and Craig is the antithesis of Byronic.

I to this day regret that Clive Owen was not cast as Bond for CR.

I am reading the Fleming novels and it becomes apparent that some Bond fans have not invested the time in reading them, because page after page, it becomes obvious that Craig is NOT Fleming's Bond by any stretch. Only an illiterate moron would say Craig got closer to Fleming than Dalton.

When I read the novels I visualise Connery and Dalton the most.

Agree totally.

Incidentally, I just saw the making of TLD, and Michael Wilson says on camera that they were looking at the possibility of exploring Bond's childhood, but Cubby was dead against the idea and told them to focus more on existing Fleming material instead.

Cubby was 100% right. He probably wouldn't be too happy with what the producers and writers came up with in SF and particularly SP, having Bond and Blofeld being brothers.

Reading Fleming's 007 I often picture Sir Sean, especially The Hildebrand Rarity. Carte Blanche (Jeffery Deaver's attempt) I pictured a totally different young James Bond.

Michael Wilson has flip flopped all over the place on who 007 is supposed to be, from classic definition of a hero to Bond is the anti-hero encapsulating what his sister and Daniel believe so vehemently. Michael in once sense was twenty years ahead of the out of idea Hollywood notion to recycle proven characters with origin stories. Cubby wisely put the kibosh on any such notions nine years after his passing his children were full speed ahead on 'Bond Begins', unceremoniously jettisoning Cubbys last 007 and legacy with a 'do I look like I gave a d**n' attitude.
Daniel is Barbara's 007, not Ian's, not Cubby's. I suppose she has the right to her own interpretation, the market has not failed her as of yet which is the only approval she has to have. However it is in large part the good graces of the the original series and Bondmania which continue to fuel the idea what a James Bond adventure is today.

Far as Daniel goes I hope he is done with the role because he has clearly shown destain for the series which put him on the map, doubtful Daniel Craig without Barbara's decision to make him a leading man would be anywhere in his career, certainly not getting in million dollar quibbles with his posh neighbours over a few rouge trees. Even if Daniel does depart I have no real expectation of Barbara returning to a 007 her father would have chosen, even if she does get the actor right I can not help but question if will she get the rest of the trappings right.

By the way after viewing Star Trek Beyond I half expect Idris Elba to be chosen simply because he is everywhere.

It is easy to picture Connery as he is very close to the time in which Fleming wrote the books. Dalton captures those outbursts of anger as well as the nervousness Bond has in some situations. He also captures the guilt Bond feels from people dying by association with Bond. And he has that face as well as hair colour down. However, the novels that the Connery films were based on makes it impossible not to visualise Connery. I have a bit of a way to go with the books.

Agree with your observations on the future of the series. And absolutely right that Daniel is Barbara's Bond. Had Cubby been casting Casino Royale back in 2004, I feel we would have got Clive Owen. Cubby respected the Bond fans and never compromised on the image of Bond.

As for speculation with the casting of the next Bond, if you can cast Craig then you open the door that anyone can be Bond. Craig is so far from the description, that the damage has been done.

As for financial success, the Craggers era is more born out of focus groups and lacks that originality the old series had in abundance. And the advertisement costs must have been astronomical even making past Bonds budgets miniscule in contrast.

And despite the huge advertising for Spectre, it took far less than Skyfall. Yet, Connery's, Moore's and Brosnan's fourth films were their biggest box office. And cinema ticket prices inflated in anticipation of the Star Wars film The Force Awakens. It was a 40% increase on 2012 prices in my area. So, that tells you something.

[bjmdds]

I saw KONG today. It's a different storyline from the past 3 films made, and has an Apocalypse Now feel to it in the jungles. It was OK, not great, but sets up better films in the future quite nicely I believe. I rate it a "B" for a movie to see. One thing was confirmed for me......LOKI 'ain't' Bond, no way, no how FBF, how many times have you seen KONG?

[FormerBondFan]

I saw KONG today. It's a different storyline from the past 3 films made, and has an Apocalypse Now feel to it in the jungles. It was OK, not great, but sets up better films in the future quite nicely I believe. I rate it a "B" for a movie to see. One thing was confirmed for me......LOKI 'ain't' Bond, no way, no how FBF, how many times have you seen KONG?

I haven't got around to see it due to my schedule.

[bjmdds]

The weather bureau blew it again big time here in NYC Last night at 11:00pm they were still predicting a blizzard with 15" of snow............the facts, 3" so far, and it changed over to sleet, which is dangerous to drive in, so the roads are empty, and rightly so, but the morons on tv, with all of their modern and sophisticated equipment, cannot get it right no matter what they do More "fake news" to scare the populace for sure

[Omega]

Marty McFly: Since when can weathermen predict the weather? Let alone the future!



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[Veronica]

Hiddleston is well spoken,charming and elegant and also bloody teriffic in The Night Manager.But for crying out loud,after more than a decade of seeing Craig I want a man that has Bond looks and vibe.

[kater23]

Marty McFly: Since when can weathermen predict the weather? Let alone the future!



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Our weathermen are(mostly) right..they've predicted a few doozy storms this winter, and we did get rain, but nowhere near the EPIC! storm it was supposed to be.

[bjmdds]

Hiddleston is well spoken,charming and elegant and also bloody teriffic in The Night Manager.But for crying out loud,after more than a decade of seeing Craig I want a man that has Bond looks and vibe.

You said it "V" It's Aidan Turner or bust He is THE choice right now for the role, bar none If Cr-egg stays, it will bore the world. He is yesterday's news. They need to refresh the franchise but Broccoli hates men, hence she will continue to remake Fleming's storylines in her own image and feel like the 'ar-tist' she so desperately wants to be known for.

[Bond...James Bond]

Hiddleston is well spoken,charming and elegant and also bloody teriffic in The Night Manager.But for crying out loud,after more than a decade of seeing Craig I want a man that has Bond looks and vibe.

You said it "V" It's Aidan Turner or bust He is THE choice right now for the role, bar none If Cr-egg stays, it will bore the world. He is yesterday's news. They need to refresh the franchise but Broccoli hates men, hence she will continue to remake Fleming's storylines in her own image and feel like the 'ar-tist' she so desperately wants to be known for.

If she doesn't get Craig back, then we're possibly going to get Jack Huston


He looks like a Latino playboy. That is not James Bond. Turner is the actor to go with. I still say Hiddles would deliver. Certainly better than Craig ever has. The only thing Craig delivers is nausea.