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Omega wrote: I hope so too because it’s half baked Babs s**t scripting.
Luckily, Babs has no involvement with the continuation novels.

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Veronica wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:04 pm I've always liked Gatiss but my god, the finale of Sherlock was awful.
As Moffat said, it's unlikely that they would have as much creative freedom on Bond as they did on Sherlock. Which might actually be a good thing, as it would rein in the self-indulgence that marred the last couple of seasons of that show. It's funny that they echoed Edgar Wright's earlier call for a lighter Bond. Moffat and Wright previously worked together on the screenplay for Spielberg's Tintin movie. If it was announced that Bond 26 was to be directed by Wright with a screenplay by Wright, Moffat and Gatiss, and the right choice of actor playing Bond, I think I'd be more excited about a Bond film than I have been for 20 years. But I doubt we'll be that lucky. It'll be Purvis, Wade, Waller-Bridge and Funkichicken again, with Rege-Jean Page or Tom Hardy as Bond.
I really liked the first season of Sherlock, even to Irene Adler. Moriarty was a let down. The last season I couldn’t bother with.
Like you said someone to pump the brakes and help keep them on the correct path might be ok. Kind of like marvel isn’t a free for all, but we still get a variety of stories but with some one producing with a vision



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Omega wrote: I hope so too because it’s half baked Babs s**t scripting.
Luckily, Babs has no involvement with the continuation novels.

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What is interesting is Amazon seemed to indicate some of the young bond books and other continuation novels might be good spin offs, Big departure from the broccoli‘s who bought the rights to what Fleming books they could get then actively block the later novels.

I do think unless Babs plays nice the majority of rights Amazon owns will come into play. She’s a minority holder with a good contract giving her say in casting bond for the movies, iron clad 1970s contract. I bet she does play nice and she gets a lot in return, but will not trying taking Amazon to court.


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The Horowitz novels take place in the past. In, between, before or after a Ian Fleming novel. So, fortunately, they can't do s**t such as killing Bond off. The same happens with M. Admiral Miles Messervy appears in every continuation novel until he retires in John Gardner's COLD and is succeeded by Judi Dench's M (in the 90s, they tried to marry both the literary and cinematic Bond). So, I got the feeling this is just a set-up by Bond and M, with M faking his death and Bond framed as a traitor to infiltrate SMERSH. Otherwise, it wouldn't have logic.

But then again, IFP is pandering to wokeness (see their new Double-0 spin-offs), so at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if With A Mind To Kill is some kind of "alternate continuity" where M dies and Bond dies as well.
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Spielberg is in hot water with his bomb of a remake West Side Story. It has dropped 75% here this Friday from last Friday, and has only grossed $20 million 'worldwide' :!: Estimates say it will require $250 million to break even. This rubbish won't last 1 month here at this rate..........now we get to the reasons, aside from not being able to improve on perfection from the original film------Director Steven Spielberg derided Hispanic people using the racial slur, Latinx, multiple times while promoting the film, it is now being reported...............and.......the idiotic lead actress, Rachel Zegler, last year was tweeting to get rid of the police :!: ........FORK TIME.....DONE :!: Image She will be in Snow White as well :!:
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bjmdds wrote:Spielberg is in hot water with his bomb of a remake West Side Story. It has dropped 75% here this Friday from last Friday, and has only grossed $20 million 'worldwide' :!: Estimates say it will require $250 million to break even. This rubbish won't last 1 month here at this rate..........now we get to the reasons------Director Steven Spielberg derided Hispanic people using the racial slur, Latinx, multiple times while promoting the film, it is now being reported...............and.......the idiotic lead actress last year was tweeting to get rid of the police :!: ........FORK TIME.....DONE :!:
"I'm really excited about this remake of West Side Story, but first I had better check what the lead actress thinks about defunding the police" said no-one, ever.

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Comments made by ANYONE on the internet often will come back to haunt them, as this did. Spielberg was naive to think this would be OK by the masses. Image Spielberg blew hundreds of millions on this.
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Timothy Dalton: "Albert Broccoli asked if I would come back, and I said, ‘Well, I’ve actually changed my mind a little bit. I think that I’d love to do one. Try and take the best of the two that I have done, and consolidate them into a third.’”

"He said, quite rightly, ‘Look, Tim. You can’t do one. There’s no way, after a five-year gap between movies that you can come back and just do one. You’d have to plan on four or five.’

"And I thought, ‘Oh, no, that would be the rest of my life. Too much. Too long.’ So I respectfully declined. https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment ... ce-to-Kill
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Coming back after a five-year absence and just doing one more final Bond movie...could you imagine such a thing?

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I’ve gotten to the point I wonder how much of these remembering are true and how much is true that this how cubby approached them.

Back then it was a set schedule 4 or five movies it meant no more than 10 years of the actors time.

As it was Brosnan barely got four movies, and wasn’t bond for a decade unless you count not naming a new actor in to his era.

On the set of goldeneye and tomorrow never dies they knew when making the movies if they failed it was over as a franchise. Dalton talked about LTK possibly being the last bond movie in the franchise in 1989. His contract lapsed after three years and no movie, as Craig’s would have between 2008 and 2012, cubby supposedly makes the offer to Dalton for first dibs but how much is just courtesy or as a gesture. The investors paying wanted a new bond I’m not sure anything cubby wanted gets past the have you people call my people talking stage and becomes real offers. That’s what killed brosnans time, eon talked to him but he had no contract.

I really like daltons time as bond but I wonder if we really could have had one or two more bond movies with him. No doubt he was fit and look the role all through the 1990s. I think he could have pulled it off. I don’t think the time would be much different either after all it was legacy producing after cubby died in 1996.


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Fukunaga told Empire in The Batman issue, wiping Bond off the board was always the plan. “In my first meeting with Daniel and the producers, they said that’s how they wanted the story,” he recalls. “They felt that was an ending. I was like, ‘Well, it’s a result of an ending, but we don’t know what happens. It has to be earned.’” .........“I wasn’t trying to be obtuse with it,” he says. “I wanted to be clear with it. But I wanted it to be tasteful. :shock: We didn’t want that shot in Terminator 2 where you see Sarah Connor turning into bones. But we wanted to show that he wasn’t going to jump down a sewer at the last second. So that wider shot of the island being pummelled was a mixture of macro and micro. The full effect is, ‘Yes, he’s gone, but he succeeded in making sure none of that weapons would go on into the future.’”
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Omega wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:32 pm I’ve gotten to the point I wonder how much of these remembering are true and how much is true that this how cubby approached them.

Back then it was a set schedule 4 or five movies it meant no more than 10 years of the actors time.

As it was Brosnan barely got four movies, and wasn’t bond for a decade unless you count not naming a new actor in to his era.

On the set of goldeneye and tomorrow never dies they knew when making the movies if they failed it was over as a franchise. Dalton talked about LTK possibly being the last bond movie in the franchise in 1989. His contract lapsed after three years and no movie, as Craig’s would have between 2008 and 2012, cubby supposedly makes the offer to Dalton for first dibs but how much is just courtesy or as a gesture. The investors paying wanted a new bond I’m not sure anything cubby wanted gets past the have you people call my people talking stage and becomes real offers. That’s what killed brosnans time, eon talked to him but he had no contract.

I really like daltons time as bond but I wonder if we really could have had one or two more bond movies with him. No doubt he was fit and look the role all through the 1990s. I think he could have pulled it off. I don’t think the time would be much different either after all it was legacy producing after cubby died in 1996.


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ImageThis is the thankfully final film view at Cr-egg's Bond after 16 years of drudgery :!: As 2022 rolls in, the 7th 007 will be named. Cavill is making it known he wants the role. Given that the majority of NTTD's supporters were NOT in the 18-34 category as is the case for Spiderman, will Broccoli still go woke in her choice for the new Bond, or finally get it right with an actor like Aidan Turner, whose name is nowhere to be seen in discussions for the role?
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bjmdds wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:28 pm This is the thankfully final film view at Cr-egg's Bond after 16 years of drudgery :!: As 2022 rolls in, the 7th 007 will be named. Cavill is making it known he wants the role. Given that the majority of NTTD's supporters were NOT in the 18-34 category as is the case for Spiderman, will Broccoli still go woke in her choice for the new Bond, or finally get it right with an actor like Aidan Turner, whose name is nowhere to be seen in discussions for the role?
If it's any consolation, Craig came out of left field too. Hopefully, that nasty surprise will be balanced out by a nice one, in the casting of Turner! Cavill seems more likely, though, and I wouldn't be too disappointed if it turned out to be him.
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Not Bond, but it is Fleming-connected; Sally-Anne Howes, who played Truly Scrumptious in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, has died at the age of 91:

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“I said to Barbara, ending him, or ending my version of him, would be, for me, incredibly satisfying. And would help them reset it when they need to,” reveals Craig. “It would leave me feeling like I’d done as much as I could with it. I didn’t want to leave it having regrets.” He says he doesn’t.

“Call us crazy, but we felt it was the right trajectory,” says Broccoli. “It was something he really wanted to do, and it made sense to us. His version of Bond has exemplified the elements of the character that are about personal sacrifice for the greater good. You couldn’t tell that story more strongly than the way we did, which was he sacrifices his life for the family he never thought he would have. Of course, he can’t have a family. That was the whole point of his character.”...........The burning question is: how exactly? “Well, it’s a blank page at this point,” says Wilson. “We haven’t really discussed it, so anything’s possible.”
“It’s a great place to be,” adds Broccoli, “where we feel like we can wipe the slate clean and do whatever we want.” https://www.screendaily.com/features/ba ... 29.article
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bjmdds wrote: “Call us crazy, but we felt it was the right trajectory,” says Broccoli.
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“Well, it’s a blank page at this point,” says Wilson. “We haven’t really discussed it, so anything’s possible.”
“It’s a great place to be,” adds Broccoli, “where we feel like we can wipe the slate clean and do whatever we want.”
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bjmdds wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:23 pm “I said to Barbara, ending him, or ending my version of him, would be, for me, incredibly satisfying. And would help them reset it when they need to,” reveals Craig. “It would leave me feeling like I’d done as much as I could with it. I didn’t want to leave it having regrets.” He says he doesn’t.

“Call us crazy, but we felt it was the right trajectory,” says Broccoli. “It was something he really wanted to do, and it made sense to us. His version of Bond has exemplified the elements of the character that are about personal sacrifice for the greater good. You couldn’t tell that story more strongly than the way we did, which was he sacrifices his life for the family he never thought he would have. Of course, he can’t have a family. That was the whole point of his character.”...........The burning question is: how exactly? “Well, it’s a blank page at this point,” says Wilson. “We haven’t really discussed it, so anything’s possible.”
“It’s a great place to be,” adds Broccoli, “where we feel like we can wipe the slate clean and do whatever we want.” https://www.screendaily.com/features/ba ... 29.article
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