The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

Ten years of this tortured crumb: [video][/video]

[bjmdds]

According to The Guardian, it is stated that the 76-year-old legendary star George Lazenby has endorsed Idris Elba as a suitable replacement for Daniel Craig. He stated that it’s a good idea but the only thing that will confuse the audience might be seeing a black James Bond...........another brain dead moron

[Veronica]

Hiddleston said: "It is a national obsession to talk about who should be the next James Bond. Everyone has an opinion about it basically. My belief is that Daniel Craig will do many, many more. As far as I'm concerned, he is James Bond." Loki would be a pathetic Bond

He may be charming but I don't see him as a Bond material. I think it would be insane if Craig did ANY more. First of all,that public meltdown of his...why would anyone give millions to a man who says he would rather slash his wrists than do another and it would be only for the money.
They can find someone else,far more suitable and not nearly as expensive. Someone who would actually like to do Bond films. Who would want a man who even doesn't want to be there representing an iconic franchise?

[The Saint 007]

Some Bond fans are growing restless again.

WOW! I didn't know they allowed internet use in mental institutions! Seriously! Take a moment to think before you spew this sort of insanity across the internet!

Bond in the 60's? They tried that in The Man from UNCLE , it didn't work that well financially! In fact I'd be surprised if it got a sequel. He also states: "Revisiting the character in a time several decades before the dawn of instant information may unveil a whole new side of the Bond mythos by forcing us to see how problems may be solved by a spy in his element without a smartphone or high-powered satellites." He does realize we've already saw that right? It is referred to as every Bond film up to 1995! As Veronica said all this rubbish about not being relevant is a cop out, especially now that they have regained the rights to Spectre. They have a ready made enemy to thwart, no need to cram some modern day enemy "relevance" in to the storyline, too bad they cocked it up with Brofeld.

Off shoot stories about Felix and the other 00's? They considered that with a Jinx storyline, look how that turned out! I mean it's not such a bad idea it would allow Babz to explore her "creativity" without besmirching the good name of Bond, but considering she can't make a decent film given 3-4 years time and absolute concentration on the project, I'd hate to see the results. But this guy really goes of the rails suggesting time travel! Seeing how the 00s operate during the World Wars?! A hundred years in the future?! Put down the bong turn off the computer, and clear your head before you embarrass yourself any further pal!

Agreed with everything that you as well as Veronica said. When I constantly see people bashing Moore and Brosnan on a daily basis on various Bond forums, I often wonder if it's mostly out of boredom rather than just dislike of the actors. Considering that this site allows negativity about Craig, I can honestly say that most of the people here don't do anywhere near as much bashing of Craig as some of the people I see doing towards Moore and Brosnan on other Bond forums. It seems the series is currently so dull, that if it wasn't for the regular bashing of Moore and Brosnan, most people on the Bond forums wouldn't have much to discuss.

The article above also further proves my point of this current Bond boredom. If the writer honestly thinks that any of his ideas are going to make things entertaining, then EON may as well fully turn the Bond series into a daytime television soap opera and be done with it. It's all just as ridiculous as the demand to change Bond's ethnicity/gender to help make the series more "innovative" again.

[dirtybenny]

To The Saint's point, these dolts bash Moore and Brosnan because they don't like "Bond" plain and simple! They "tolerate" Connery because not to do so is relevancy suicide, (Imagine if someone started off by saying Connery was a crap Bond, everything else out of their mouth would become an unintelligible drone) Lazenby and Dalton are just footnotes in their mind, which leaves mighty Craig the most un-Bondian man to ever don a Tux! These are the same idiots who think SP was "Too light hearted", and complain about gadgets, fast cars and faster women, I news for you chief if you don't like those things you are not only a dower old stick in the mud but also not a fan of James Bond!

Hiddleston said: "It is a national obsession to talk about who should be the next James Bond. Everyone has an opinion about it basically. My belief is that Daniel Craig will do many, many more. As far as I'm concerned, he is James Bond." Loki would be a pathetic Bond

That quote right there should be enough to disqualify him! Craig IS James Bond?! Maybe in Ragnarok but not here on earth bub!

According to The Guardian, it is stated that the 76-year-old legendary star George Lazenby has endorsed Idris Elba as a suitable replacement for Daniel Craig. He stated that it’s a good idea but the only thing that will confuse the audience might be seeing a black James Bond...........another brain dead moron

It's just the EON PR machine using poor George as they did Roger and Honor Blackman when they regurgitated the old chestnut about Craig being the "Best actor to play Bond" awhile back, guess we all know who the next Bond will be now.

[FormerBondFan]

ID4 2's latest viral video:

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[Kristatos]

ID4 2's latest viral video:

Viral? It only had about 6500 views when I checked in. A trailer for something like The Force Awakens will typically get over a million views on its first day.

[FormerBondFan]

ID4 2's latest viral video:

Viral? It only had about 6500 views when I checked in. A trailer for something like The Force Awakens will typically get over a million views on its first day.

You're right. Something's definitely off here, and it's less than two months before release.

[bjmdds]

FBF, ID 2 looks like a modest box office. Sorry. I know you are looking forward to it.................Captain America: Civil War posted $24 million on Monday, May 3 at the international box office thanks to May Day holidays in many markets. Overall, the film has grossed $224.3 million in its first week of release.

[Veronica]

I think Moore and Brosnan bashing has to do with their inability to make up reasons why Craig is truly the best Bond. Like Benny said,stating Connery wasn't a great Bond would be laughable even Craig's devoted fanboys know it. Dalton and Lazenby are the underdogs of the franchise and fanboys probably think there is no reason to pick on them since as underdogs they oppose no threat to the "greatest Bond ever" in Craig.
In order to make Craig look good they have to make someone else look bad. So they have to turn on "bigger sharks" like Moore and Brosnan. Plus,EON is heavily marketing this "serious" "gritty" crap so of course they are going to target the famously witty and comical Moore.
And Brosnan drove an invisible car and that's what almost destroyed this franchise you know?

[FormerBondFan]

FBF, ID 2 looks like a modest box office. Sorry. I know you are looking forward to it.................Captain America: Civil War posted $24 million on Monday, May 3 at the international box office thanks to May Day holidays in many markets. Overall, the film has grossed $224.3 million in its first week of release.

I would love it if there's more billion dollar films this year compare to last year, which had 5.

[FormerBondFan]

I think Moore and Brosnan bashing has to do with their inability to make up reasons why Craig is truly the best Bond.

And I'm sick of those comparisons between Rog and Pierce, especially with the latter being said to be lighthearted.

[Blowfeld]

Yes even Flyboys which honestly didn't work that well, it tired to cram too many clichés together with real history. This and staring James Franco was a mistake. I have yet to like James in a movie, something about him is off putting.

Emmerich didn't direct Flyboys. It was Tony Bill.

Thank the maker! Would have sworn it was a Emmerich & Devlin film.
Forgot about their Godzilla. That would be among the ones I didn't like.

[Blowfeld]

May 2 is the 8th anniversary of the first Iron Man movie's debut.

Quantum of Solace originally had the date but relinquished it when all concerned figured there was no way to do a Bond movie in a year-and-a-half.

Movie world hasn't been quite the same since.

I remember Barbara was so high on Casino Royale not flopping she boasted "2007 is his year after all!". This was back when meme about how Bond movies would be easier to make because EON cut back excess going back to basics. Also ignored Casino cost more than the Die Another Day, shortly after bragging about forcing more Emo Bond down the doubter throats in 2007 there was talk about Daniel not coming back which I believe was him getting more for the sequel because his contract was honestly rubbish. His maximum salary for all three films in contract was pathetic.

[Blowfeld]

Some Bond fans are growing restless again.

For spin offs they really have to reboot with tieins in mind. Besides Jeffrey Wright was miserable as Felix, I doubt EON could get him back any how.
Disney with Marvel and Star Wars master plans have changed expectations, fans now expect a thought out universe with characters stories intertwining effortlessly.

There was a rumour EON fought so hard to stop the Section 6 movie (essentially Bond in 1917 based on historical facts and events) because they wanted to reboot retro. I do think a retro reboot would be popular seems lots of people think it'd be a great idea. We've never seen Bond in the era he was written for, very close to it with the first films however 1953-2 was different world.

[Veronica]

I think Moore and Brosnan bashing has to do with their inability to make up reasons why Craig is truly the best Bond.

And I'm sick of those comparisons between Rog and Pierce, especially with the latter being said to be lighthearted.

And what's wrong with being compared to Moore? Honestly you can compare Brosnan with pretty much every Bond since he had things in common with Connery,Moore and Dalton.
And there's nothing wrong with being lighthearted either.
Thing is,in the Brosnan era there was a case of a mood whiplash,some very serious moments coupled with more lighter ones. Sometimes the later came right after the former and it simply doesn't go that well when these moments are glued together.

[bjmdds]

Veronica is the name of Stark's Hulk buster. Does that have anything to do with your forum name V?

[FormerBondFan]

I think Moore and Brosnan bashing has to do with their inability to make up reasons why Craig is truly the best Bond.

And I'm sick of those comparisons between Rog and Pierce, especially with the latter being said to be lighthearted.

And what's wrong with being compared to Moore? Honestly you can compare Brosnan with pretty much every Bond since he had things in common with Connery,Moore and Dalton.
And there's nothing wrong with being lighthearted either.
Thing is,in the Brosnan era there was a case of a mood whiplash,some very serious moments coupled with more lighter ones. Sometimes the later came right after the former and it simply doesn't go that well when these moments are glued together.

I'm not saying that Rog did poorly, and he did fine. Pierce is not all lighthearted as he wanted to do the dark and gritty Bond himself.

[Barry Niven]

The "Spotlight on Felix (Leiter)" that that *article* blathers about is just another example of this come-lately dilettante bull$#!+ that retroactively props up a NON-entity nobody gave a flying f#*! about before he was allegedly made *cool* with Jeffrey Wright in CR/QoS. With a choice quote like "Felix Leiter has been a constant and intriguing ally to 007", the author's already proven he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Because in actuality, all Leiter ever did (Movie-wise) was extra info-dumping for Bond's mission before staying behind on the Boat/Helicopter/Car while Bond did the Real Work himself (DN/LALD/TLD) or was joined in the Big Battle by Soldiers/Divers/Helicopters (GF/TB/DAF). Since James Bond is, after all The Hero, Leiter's primary function is to be the boring, ineffectual yes-man who sits on the sidelines to make Bond Look Cool, with this indifference reflected by the series' random Leiter recasts per movie (the worst offenders being the flabby old DAF version meant to make Old-Connery look better by comparision; and LTK, as explained below):

And the ONE time old-Felix was an Action-Man with his own Bride* (LTK), he was only a plot-device to give Bond his revenge motivation. Which never would've happened if Leiter wasn't conveniently transferred from the CIA to the DEA between TLD & LTK to justify the initial pursuit of drug lord Sanchez. And that was compounded by the STUPID mistake of re-using David Hedison as a "nod" to continuity instead of just getting John Terry back from TLD (who actually turned out to be a BETTER actor than his short screen-time, John Glen's indifferent direction, and Dustin Hoffman-hair would have us believe; just watch his brief appearance in Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket from the same year and marvel that Terry actually had a personality as the snarky "Stars & Stripes" Lt. who sticks it to that snotty Pvt. Joker). Sure, Hedison worked the first time in LALD, but that was only because of the rapport with his friend Roger Moore. But opposite Timothy Dalton and Robert Davi, Hedision's out-of-date Hammy histrionics were just f#*!ing awful ("SEE YOU IN HELLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!).

If they were actually TRYING to get rid of Felix Leiter, they couldn't have done a better job. Which was made obvious with their Suspiciously Similar Substitute of the loud and boorish Jack Wade (MITCHELL!!!!) in the first half of Pierce Brosnan's run before they decided they'd become too "Serious" and all that jive to bother with a comic-relief Ugly American. IIRC, there was even talk of Michael Madson's terrible NSA stiff "Damien Falco" becoming a recurring character post-DAD, a lame-ass idea that ended when Madsen's pal Pierce got the axe.

But I digress.. The thing that irks me about the Modern Black-Leiter is how New-EON tried to act like casting Wright was soooo "revolutionary" in its bold, all-inclusive Political Correctness for the New Age. But it was already done with Never Say Never Again's Bernie Casey, apparently on Sean Connery's suggestion to make him more memorable since nobody ever remembered Felix. But since NSNA wasn't an Official Bond movie, that doesn't count as stealing if it's the "Good Guys" (Baby Babs w. Craggy) sticking it to the "Bad Guys" (Kevin McClory w. Connery the Judas) 23 years after the act, which is all a bunch of hypocritical crap. And cowardly since Babs' EON was now the only Bond Movie-making game in Town while McClory was dead, Connery retired, their hated-nemesis "Austin Powers" finally laid to rest, and any would-be competitors unwilling to take on the legal & financial hassles that went with taking on the Bond brand.

Not that it mattered because Leiter was still an ineffectual sideman who's only there to enable Our "Hero" Craggy to triumph, only now he's got "character development" such as scowling in the background when he's losing (CR) or disapproving of his Corpulent Boss's sucking-up to the evil Greene (QoS). Yeah, real progress there. So much that Leiter's last contribution was to be name-dropped as a "friend" for Monica Belucci to flee to on Craggy's say-so in SP. I'm sure that there's a wealth of storytelling possibilities to be had in "most likely focusing on drug smugglers and internal agency politics" (the author's quote) with the obviously disengaged Wright on paycheck-mode in a Black-Leiter spinoff.

Gimme a effin' break. They might as well be asking for a Bill Tanner spinoff, using the Ian Fleming novels' opt-repeated descriptions of Tanner being "Bond's Best Friend in the Service" every time he's reintroduced before entering M's office, but there's NEVER any actual substance to back that up. And besides, this Chief of Staff is a Boring Un-Person nobody cares about. I didn't care when he had no name and was played by two different actors in the Old Series (some boring guy in TMWTGG, and that stuffy jerk who 'subbed' for M in FYEO when Bernard Lee's death caught them so off guard that recasting right then & there would've been too callous), and I still didn't care when what's-his-name played him in two of Brosnan's Bonds (GE, TWINE). And I definitely didn't give a fying fluck about that wussy gopher who tagged along like one of the "Superfriends" in QoS/SF/SP no matter how how often he was being shown in order to MAKE US LIKE HIM. Yet, these idiot wannabe "fans" who bring up such spinoff/extended universe ideas always seem to latch on to these kind of non-characters like they're somehow *special*. Well, they aren't. So enough already. Get a grip.

* - It was also a bit distracting to see that Dead-Mrs. Leiter was played by 'Nurse Terri' from Three's Company, which kinda undercut their intent that LTK was supposed be the SERIOUS Bond Movie for a Change. I still always liked her better than (horrible) Suzanne Somers, though.

[dirtybenny]

WOW Barry! A Mitchell reference!?!?! You are now officially my newest hero! But seriously some great points made there! That quote from the author, "most likely focusing on drug smugglers and internal agency politics" struck me too. Nothing like office politics to get the blood pumping and stir the soul! That's got nothing but unqualified success written all over it LOL!