The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

The Turtleneck has a use, end of.

[oscartheman]

The Turtleneck has a use, end of.

James Bond Spectre poster wears Archer's turtleneck
Entertainment Weekly‎ - 20 hours ago
We can't help be reminded of Archer and the FX's spy's use of his signature turtleneck.

James Bond is Archer
The Verge‎ - 21 hours ago

Difference is Duchess rocks the tactical turtleneck.The Tactleneck.

[bjmdds]

FBF, what say yee?

[bjmdds]

To fill the role of Estrella, a woman whose hotel room Bond uses to begin his hunt for an assassin named Sciarra, the producers needed to cast a "known Mexican actress," for instance, though Sciarra himself "cannot be Mexican," the memo said.

Similarly, the governor of the Federal District, whom the assassin is targeting, needed to be replaced with an international leader instead, just as the notes call for the use of some sort of "special police force," apparently in place of the Mexican police shown just moments into the film's start.

The memo also called for aerial shots of "modern Mexico City buildings."

Other e-mails suggest that all of those requirements were met through changes to the script: Bond's pursuit of Sciarra during the Mexican "Day of the Dead" celebration replaced a cage match with no apparent geographical setting, it allowed for the addition of a role for a Mexican actress, an ambassador replaced the governor as Sciarra's target, and the most recent script calls for that scene to end with Bond stealing Sciarra's helicopter and "taking off into the Mexican skyline."

What's mentioned above reportedly earns the production $14 million for what is said to be four minutes of film, and the intent is to do whatever they can to get the other $6 million using footage featuring the Mexican skyline.

[dirtybenny]

A hilarious bit: "...although Mexican officials wanted to see their citizens in the film, they were sensitive about how they might be portrayed." Well, there's not much to present in terms of Mexican citizenry. About 90% of them are in California.

And those who are left all work for the drug cartels!

Difference is Duchess rocks the tactical turtleneck.The Tactleneck.

This would be the slightly darker black Tacticalneck.

To fill the role of Estrella, a woman whose hotel room Bond uses to begin his hunt for an assassin named Sciarra, the producers needed to cast a "known Mexican actress," for instance, though Sciarra himself "cannot be Mexican," the memo said.

Similarly, the governor of the Federal District, whom the assassin is targeting, needed to be replaced with an international leader instead, just as the notes call for the use of some sort of "special police force," apparently in place of the Mexican police shown just moments into the film's start.

The memo also called for aerial shots of "modern Mexico City buildings."

Other e-mails suggest that all of those requirements were met through changes to the script: Bond's pursuit of Sciarra during the Mexican "Day of the Dead" celebration replaced a cage match with no apparent geographical setting, it allowed for the addition of a role for a Mexican actress, an ambassador replaced the governor as Sciarra's target, and the most recent script calls for that scene to end with Bond stealing Sciarra's helicopter and "taking off into the Mexican skyline."

What's mentioned above reportedly earns the production $14 million for what is said to be four minutes of film, and the intent is to do whatever they can to get the other $6 million using footage featuring the Mexican skyline.

Spectre brought to you by Beautiful Majestic Mexico!

[Veronica]

This whole thing with rewritting the script,and production being a mess smells like another QOS to me.

[Omega]

Man I've got to watch Archer I've seen so many references since that picture was released


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[Kristatos]

Like the article says, these things are not uncommon, even if this takes it to extremes. Films that require the "cooperation" of the Pentagon, FBI etc are notoriously prone to meddling, for example. And let's not get started on product placement....

[dirtybenny]

This is very true Kris, plus what we have here is a combination of Government "cooperation" and product placement. However it gets a bit ridiculous when you have a drug infested hell hole like Mexico telling you not to portray one of your henchmen charters as Mexican because it may give their country a bad name.

[Kristatos]

If I'm feeling optimistic (it does happen occasionally! ), I can see an opportunity in this. Ian Fleming, as a former travel writer, always wrote wonderfully vivid descriptions of the countries Bond visited. It would be great if, via the law of unintended consequences, this meddling resulted in a chance to look beyond easy, obvious descriptions like "drug-infested hellhole" and present aspects of Mexico that you don't normally get to see, the sorts of little details that Fleming would have noted. Not gonna bet money on it, though.

[Count_Lippe]

Robert Shaw also had a sweater like that in the FRWL pre-credits scene.

[dirtybenny]

If I'm feeling optimistic (it does happen occasionally! ), I can see an opportunity in this. Ian Fleming, as a former travel writer, always wrote wonderfully vivid descriptions of the countries Bond visited. It would be great if, via the law of unintended consequences, this meddling resulted in a chance to look beyond easy, obvious descriptions like "drug-infested hellhole" and present aspects of Mexico that you don't normally get to see, the sorts of little details that Fleming would have noted. Not gonna bet money on it, though.

Hope springs eternal Kris, but we already know thanks to the Sony leaks that this scene is going to be a chase through the crowded streets of mexico city during a festival, and will most likely be shot on a back lot at that with only the "modern mexico city skyline" depicting any actual location footage, so don't expect to see some quaint sea side villages or sarape clad locals.

As for "drug infested hell hole" true I'm being a bit hyperbolic but I'm just trying to point out the hypocrisy of a government to whom decapitated corpses with the name of the local cartel carved in to the chest is no rare occurrence, but they are adverse to a henchman being portrayed as a member of their nationality.

[Kristatos]

I'm not disputing the "drug-infested hellhole" description, I'm just saying that no country can be summed up in a single sentence like that. Every country has many different facets, and it would be nice to see some that are less familiar. But like I said, I'm not betting on it.

[dirtybenny]

Kris, I fully agree and have said Bond is best as a travelogue and I offer a begrudging tip of my cap to Babzy and co. for insisting on shooting on location. Unfortunately dispute the fact they are shooting in Mexico or any other location for that matter it will look as if it could have been shot in someone's backyard in Kent!

[Kristatos]

The *only* good thing I had to say about QOS is that it partly revived the travelogue aspect of Bond.

[tehmanis]

anyone interested in Cavill's new franchise??? aka Stratton

http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2015/03/inter ... wild-card/

[Veronica]

The *only* good thing I had to say about QOS is that it partly revived the travelogue aspect of Bond.

There were a lot of locations in QOS. That may be cool but the whole story was just even harder to follow. On forum in my country someone wrote how QOS looked like cutted part from CR.

[Kristatos]

She's off again: http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Gemm ... story.html

[bjmdds]

Another hellacious moron to suggest such stupidity This is why Hollywood is bankrupt on new ideas. They have morons like Brosnan and Atherton suggesting lunatic ideas that lack any sane reasoning to promote some PC obsession they all have outwardly, but as we have seen by Pascal's reveal, they are all full of it.

[Veronica]

Another hellacious moron to suggest such stupidity This is why Hollywood is bankrupt on new ideas. They have morons like Brosnan and Atherton suggesting lunatic ideas that lack any sane reasoning to promote some PC obsession they all have outwardly, but as we have seen by Pascal's reveal, they are all full of it.

Oh,lord,just because they said it doesn't mean they think it.They asked Pierce a question directly and he had to answer in that way.He couldn't say"No,I don't think so." He needed to have some kind of positive answer.Obviously the whole thing with Elba is just another PR trick.Now,suddenly everone think how he would make a good Bond.Just like that "Craig is better than Connery" article I once ran into.It was actually written by a professional critic..seriously.No one in their right mind would ever say something like that.

P.S. I don't really think they will make Elba Bond.Why?First of all Babs is obsessed with Craig and the only way Craig will break out from his contract is if he kills her.Second,I don't think anyone is that stupid really.They did change everything about Bond but I don't think they will go as far as to change the skin color.For what?To prove the world how people don't discriminate black people?Well,they did made Bond having gay experiences probably to prove how people have nothing against gays...