The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Alessandra]

So. Immortals opened WELL ABOVE any expectation. The data is in and they opened at over $14 million on Friday and they're expected to be the no.1 weekend movie with $36 million, which is a BIG opening in general these days. Biggest opening gross in 2011 for any R-rated action movie. This is about TWICE AS MUCH what was expected. Well done, Henry. And, regardless of mixed reviews, the one thing everyone agrees on is Henry Cavill is great. So there we go. This could have been happening for BOND. d**n you Babs

Correction: estimates are going up, now the figure for Friday is $15 mln

[katied]

I wonder if all the good luck associated with 11-11-11 had anything to do with how Immortals did at the box office? (It was my nephew's 11th birthday yesterday too!)


I probably will see it eventually(saw Melancholia yesterday-in a word:Stunning.)

[FormerBondFan]

There's a pandemic caused by Craigella Babsiensis, a dangerous virus that turns people into zombies that want to spread the infection.

Now that sounds like my thoughts of today's World of Bond, which is nothing this:

[Blowfeld]

So. Immortals opened WELL ABOVE any expectation. The data is in and they opened at over $14 million on Friday and they're expected to be the no.1 weekend movie with $36 million, which is a BIG opening in general these days. Biggest opening gross in 2011 for any R-rated action movie. This is about TWICE AS MUCH what was expected. Well done, Henry. And, regardless of mixed reviews, the one thing everyone agrees on is Henry Cavill is great. So there we go. This could have been happening for BOND. d**n you Babs

Correction: estimates are going up, now the figure for Friday is $15 mln

$15 million seems impressive. I still do not know what it is supposed to be about from the advertisements.

[Alessandra]

So. Immortals opened WELL ABOVE any expectation. The data is in and they opened at over $14 million on Friday and they're expected to be the no.1 weekend movie with $36 million, which is a BIG opening in general these days. Biggest opening gross in 2011 for any R-rated action movie. This is about TWICE AS MUCH what was expected. Well done, Henry. And, regardless of mixed reviews, the one thing everyone agrees on is Henry Cavill is great. So there we go. This could have been happening for BOND. d**n you Babs

Correction: estimates are going up, now the figure for Friday is $15 mln

$15 million seems impressive. I still do not know what it is supposed to be about from the advertisements.

LOL it's quite confusing in the ads, I agree. But it's basically Theseus (Cavill) and the Minotaur. It's an adaptation of that.

[Kristatos]

LOL it's quite confusing in the ads, I agree. But it's basically Theseus (Cavill) and the Minotaur. It's an adaptation of that.

Seems pretty clear to me. Certainly better than the advertising for The Rum Diaries, which gives no indication of what the film is about or even what genre it is in, being content to simply tell you that Johnny Depp is in it, in the hope that this fact alone will be enough to persuade people to see it.

[Alessandra]

LOL it's quite confusing in the ads, I agree. But it's basically Theseus (Cavill) and the Minotaur. It's an adaptation of that.

Seems pretty clear to me. Certainly better than the advertising for The Rum Diaries, which gives no indication of what the film is about or even what genre it is in, being content to simply tell you that Johnny Depp is in it, in the hope that this fact alone will be enough to persuade people to see it.

LOL agreed! And it wouldn't work for me since (unpopular opinion, I know) I never liked Johnny Depp all that much. I find him entertaining (albeit quite disgusting) in the Pirates movies, but that's it. And no, I NEVER found him even remotely attractive. Not my type at all. So yeah, sell me a movie like that, and it's guaranteed I'll never consider going to the cinema and checking it out LOL

[Omega]

$15 million is awesome! It ought to do $40 millions if CvA did $36. CvA barely did $13 million its first day and finished with $100 million but cost $165, Immortals will do better I think.

[Omega]

LOL it's quite confusing in the ads, I agree. But it's basically Theseus (Cavill) and the Minotaur. It's an adaptation of that.

Seems pretty clear to me. Certainly better than the advertising for The Rum Diaries, which gives no indication of what the film is about or even what genre it is in, being content to simply tell you that Johnny Depp is in it, in the hope that this fact alone will be enough to persuade people to see it.

LOL agreed! And it wouldn't work for me since (unpopular opinion, I know) I never liked Johnny Depp all that much. I find him entertaining (albeit quite disgusting) in the Pirates movies, but that's it. And no, I NEVER found him even remotely attractive. Not my type at all. So yeah, sell me a movie like that, and it's guaranteed I'll never consider going to the cinema and checking it out LOL

The ad basically say if you like the 300 this is the movie for you.

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DAD
Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 27,584,000

CR
Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 25,428,700


QOS
Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 23,449,600

That is a hell of fans base Craig has

The Invasion
Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 2,191,000

The Golden Compass
Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 10,092,800

Defiance
Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 3,989,500

CvA
Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 12,624,800

Dream House
Domestic Total Est. Tickets: 2,670,600

[Kristatos]

LOL agreed! And it wouldn't work for me since (unpopular opinion, I know) I never liked Johnny Depp all that much. I find him entertaining (albeit quite disgusting) in the Pirates movies, but that's it. And no, I NEVER found him even remotely attractive. Not my type at all. So yeah, sell me a movie like that, and it's guaranteed I'll never consider going to the cinema and checking it out LOL

The stupid thing is, The Rum Diaries is based on a book by Hunter S Thompson and is from the director of Withnail & I (a movie that has a huge cult following here in the UK). So that's two pre-sold audiences that the UK marketing campaign completely fails to target.

[bjmdds]

Sandy Kenyon is the ABC movie critic. He said stay away from Adam Sandler's film and he also said he has better things to do than spend his money watching Mickey Rourke in a 3D video game. He said nothing else about the film. R film outdoing Cr-Aliens is awesome though Immortals opened to an estimated $15 million on Friday, which is a little over half of 300's $28.1 million start. It's also down from Clash of the Titans's $26.1 million opening day. Both of those movies had the backing of major distributor Warner Bros., though. Immortals, on the other hand, is from upstart Relativity Media, and its debut easily tops Limitless's $6.6 million to set a new opening day record for the company. Immortals will ultimately claim first place this weekend with anywhere from $33 to $38 million.

[English Agent]

There was an interesting interview with Dame Judy Dench in one of the British Sunday papers today............Dench said she likes Craig as Bond, but her favourite was Pierce Brosnan, and she says she misses him. Thought you people might like that.

EA

[bjmdds]

There was an interesting interview with Dame Judy Dench in one of the British Sunday papers today............Dench said she likes Craig as Bond, but her favourite was Pierce Brosnan, and she says she misses him. Thought you people might like that.

EA

Where did you read that EA? That PROVES our perpetual points from an actual insider and I would bet Ale's front row tickets to see The Man Of Steel that the green vegetable is FURIOUS at the dame now

[bjmdds]

http://www.people.co.uk/2011/11/13/dani ... -23557714/ Here is the article EA. I found it. Good work EA. Dench quietly lets us know that Danielle is no Brosnan. FBF, this is for you. Plaster this article on the front page of all anti-eggster websites

[Alessandra]

There was an interesting interview with Dame Judy Dench in one of the British Sunday papers today............Dench said she likes Craig as Bond, but her favourite was Pierce Brosnan, and she says she misses him. Thought you people might like that.

EA

Where did you read that EA? That PROVES our perpetual points from an actual insider and I would bet Ale's front row tickets to see The Man Of Steel that the green vegetable is FURIOUS at the dame now

Oh you make that bet because that is a CERTAIN win! Finally someone telling the truth? Dame Judi irked me going back and forth in her comments, but this is the most adherent to truth most likely. She has to say she likes Daniel ok of course (no matter what her feelings on him are, and she probably actually does like him) but at least she DID tell the truth about Pierce being her favorite. Sure as hell she misses him, want to try what it's like to work with a grumpy primadonna as opposed to working with a nice, charming actor's actor man like Pierce? Come on now.

http://www.people.co.uk/2011/11/13/dani ... -23557714/ Here is the article EA. I found it. Good work EA. Dench quietly lets us know that Danielle is no Brosnan. FBF, this is for you. Plaster this article on the front page of all anti-eggster websites

Excellent, I wonder what all the Craig minions are saying

$15 million is awesome! It ought to do $40 millions if CvA did $36. CvA barely did $13 million its first day and finished with $100 million but cost $165, Immortals will do better I think.

The $15 mln is confirmed, as is the fact Immortals is going to be the no.1 movie of the weekend with grosses between $32 and $38 mln. It sure as hell is already doing way better than C&A because it had a budget of $75 mln and they spent $50 mln on advertising.. as opposed to a budget of $165 mln and over $100 mln to advertise.. so it cost LESS THAN HALF and it had more viewers on Friday and may rake in about the same or or a bigger gross over the whole weekend. Also, Immortals is the no.1 movie in the UK, Russia and Greece as well this weekend. This is Henry's ticket... first big movie out, major success. I am so glad for him. And what's more interesting is the crowd that's going to see it, because that crowd? Is the crowd BOND targets as well:

From LA Times:

The audience for "Immortals" was composed largely of young males, a demographic that has proved difficult to lure into theaters in recent months. About 66% of the audience -- 75% of which was younger than 35, and 60% of which was male -- opted to shell out a few extra bucks to watch the movie in 3-D. The film attracted a diverse crowd, as roughly 35% of the audience was Hispanic. Moviegoers assigned "Immortals" an average grade of B, according to market research firm CinemaScore -- the same score that both "Jack and Jill" and "J. Edgar" received this weekend.

More:

Immortals," set in ancient Greece and starring future "Superman" Henry Cavill, was produced by the filmmakers behind the 2006 blockbuster "300."

"Immortals" will fail to generate the kind of revenues that film did, however," as "300" ended up raking in more than $450 million worldwide. This weekend, "Immortals" opened internationally in 35 foreign markets, collecting an estimated $36 million. The film performed especially well in the United Kingdom, Russia and Greece, claiming the No. 1 spot in each country. Relativity is not self-releasing the film overseas, however -- the company presold the film to a number of foreign distributors, minimizing the upside if "Immortals" is successful abroad.

They left out a part: the producers already explained that all they needed was a $25 mln starting weekend abroad to make profits from the abroad sales. Which means since they're on their way to raking in $36 mln, that they're already profitable in abroad markets.

And everyone underlined how both the opening and the entire weekend gross are really remarkable given the current slip in ticket sales.

(Isabel Lucas Online) Box Office Report: 'Immortals' Scores $15 Mil Friday for Likely $35 Mil Weekend: bit.ly/sz3yNv

Those are Henry Cavill's numbers. With a movie, I'd underline, produced by an INDEPENDENT company and distributed by it, not by a mega monster like WB or Sony. AND on top of that, they had ACTUAL competition since Adam Sandler usually rakes in a LOT of money. And the third one is a Di Caprio movie. This is Sandler's worst-grossing movie so far, but that doesn't change the fact that especially the first weekend, people would go check it out so it was serious competition for Immortals. And yet Immortals is winning.

Omega, those Craig numbers are just merciless.. and it's numbers so the fanboys can't make any claim on those. Merciless. I think even adjusted for inflation, that Cavill grossed more with Immortals? Which would be a joke (on Craig of course) since the budget for Immortals is like a THIRD of QoS's budget.

The stupid thing is, The Rum Diaries is based on a book by Hunter S Thompson and is from the director of Withnail & I (a movie that has a huge cult following here in the UK). So that's two pre-sold audiences that the UK marketing campaign completely fails to target.

Smart strategy. Not. Who the hell came up with that?

[JackWade CIA]

There was an interesting interview with Dame Judy Dench in one of the British Sunday papers today............Dench said she likes Craig as Bond, but her favourite was Pierce Brosnan, and she says she misses him. Thought you people might like that.

EA

Damning in its own way I suppose. I do think people had a better feeling with Pierce Brosnan and her teamed up.

I had a odd Bond dream which in a way falls in with this. It was a six movie marathon on television where the Bonds segue to each other, at the end of On Her Majesty's Secret Service Pierce Brosnan told George Lazenby to tell the Minister the new 007, the New Bond was ready to see him. It was almost like Michael G Wilson CGI Bond effort.

[bjmdds]

I have a dream............NO CR-EGG as Bond

[Alessandra]

I have a dream............NO CR-EGG as Bond

HEY don't steal my dreams

Needless to say, now everyone's jumping on Henry's winning train... Yeah except there are those like me (and others who despite being Craig fans DID see Henry's potential even way back when Craig hadn't been yet cast as Bond, and said Henry would have been a perfect fit even back then) who've been following him for a VERY long time... and always wished he was given what he deserved: BIG leading man parts.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/i ... Stories%29

Meantime, $68 mln worldwide on opening weekend with a movie distributed by an independent company. Craig can only dream about that.

And, the forecast for the ENTIRE opening of the movie was $25 mln. That was the expectation. It did 2.5 times as much.

[shaken not stirred]

Excellent, I wonder what all the Craig minions are saying

How could you dame dench, why,why,why,why this will not stand, I'll see to it that babs sees this...yeah you're in for it now, ignoring our emperor palpatines orders (barbs) and lord vadar (cregg) will get you in serious trouble..how can anyone say anything imperfect about the godly craig, a man who was once said to be in the bible...(you know like chuck norris,) yeah that kind of thing, why he wrestled alligators once and saved my father from an alien invasion, course craig didn't dress like a cowboy and there was no harrison ford and he said he doesn't give a d**n, but it was still pretty caaawwwl, why when he jumped through that ceiling in quantum of solace (best movie name evvvar, goldeneye psssh what kind of name is that, who would take the time to spraypaint their eye gold anyway...yes I have seen the film...isn't it about dinosaurs and jeff goldblum talking about running and screaming..?) you could tell it was totally not cgi and that elvis presley villain was a stroke of genius..d**n I can't wait for him to fight an even more important villain....and this bond has more layers than shrek (take that shrek, however I don't think he beats donkey.??), seriously this bond was frozen in time and is truly a gift to this day and age , and judi dench will now...sit on a bench after she said that...yeah you went against the church of brocolli...you know what they say about people going against vegetables..(oh crap that was a direct insult to our lord barbs)...we're not worthy, we're not worthy.

Now we shall read the daily 10 commandments of craig (clears throat).

1> thou shall pout a lot (ya know since it totally makes you look manly and not like a male model).
2> thou shalt fail to drive a manual (it could be evidenced this bond hasn't started driving lessons yet...yes I know he can't drive a manual irl...coughs nervously).
3> thou shall wear shoe lifts.. (you know like farkwad in shrek...because shoelifts make you boss).
4> thou shall moan alot about a woman like vesper (even though she was a beep anyway and you only knew her very briefly and she looked more like your daughter in comparison)...but to the point..yeah, vesper was bonds one true love (or was that vodka martinis...??), either way it's really dark knight stuff.
5> thou shall go through walls (if the terminator can do it...by god so can bond, he could be a terminator from the future anyway, since his next film is skynet...er I mean skyfall).
6> thou shall make great chat uplines with tha ladies (d**n straight because if I lost My stationary I would've said the exact same thing...thinking about that did she ever find the stationary?, I mean some of that beep is pretty expensive and we have no idea if bond even has an amazon account to buy some more..he lost a lot of important arts and crafts time, he could've been watching blue peter just moments before..now we'll never know if he finished making tracy island sobs).
7> thou shall have incredible villains (d**n that elvis cosplayer in qos was awesome, I can't wait for the next guy to take on bond and it better be rob schneider dammit).
8> thou shall love jumping from roofs (yes I don't care if that sounds exactly like something bourne would do, why this franchise should strive to be a complete ripoff of bourne in everyway with this reboot (er I meant taking elements...yeah, elements).
9> thou shall have more hot bond women (though craig doesn't really seem to want them and the one he did have didn't look like he cared, still that's how you play it with the ladies...right, he makes shrek blush the way he gets tha ladiezz).
10> thou might be blonde but is still bond (yeah since he's blonde he's bond right..I mean no one else had this rhyme so it totally fits craig, now if you'll excuse Me I'm off to see the wizard the wonderful wizard of sorry I meant I'm gonna watch the truly spectacular world shattering bond 23 conference..yes I know craig looks like he's falling asleep but he's just getting in to the role again).

(watches end of it)...oh my god craig has a beard (that must've taken quite a lot of cgi to put in but it looks very convincing), go into hiding chuck norris james beard has arrived (laughs manically)...and if he happens to shave it off and leave some of it behind and grow a moustache then drop your head in shame ned flanders (I know he's a cartoon character but still).

Sorry couldn't resist .

[Kristatos]

I have a dream............NO CR-EGG as Bond

Martin Luther BJ