The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[English Agent]

I did notice at the press conference that the producers were very uneasy, particularly Babs, when questioned about the big budget difference between QOS and SF.
Wilson said they were not cutting anything in the new film for budget reasons, and that the costs were similar to QOS. Eh? QOS cost $230mil and SF $135mil.....thats a massive difference...........someones not telling the truth!

EA

[FormerBondFan]

Fbf have you sent any invitations to carrot top yet I can see him becoming a regular any minute now.

We need Ale's blackmailing tricks to make this happen.....so Top can be Bond.

[FormerBondFan]

Carrot Top awaits..............

Only if Bond 23 makes more than both CR and QOS at the box office (especially here in the US) and/or if the Academy is stupid enough to give the movie even a single Oscar nomination in the technical category.

[FormerBondFan]

And Marty Feldman (if there's available technology to digitally place him in any movie, including Bond) should join the list of Bond contenders.



But if Skysh1t CRASH and BURNS (especially during the opening weekend at the US box office) as well as failing to get nominated from high profile American movie awards (especially the Oscars), then we won't need Feldman nor Top as Bond.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

Daniel Craig to play Bond again in Skyfall? I'd rather see Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth.

[shaken not stirred]

Craig also mentioned he wants to continue playing Bond for the forseeable future. 'BJ' aint going to be amused!

EA

Heh, the only person that idiot is playing is himself not bond, denial's a powerful thing craig, why don't you just get your bond to kiss and sleep with a guy next (something he wants), why not, why not put on a tutu and sing I'm so pretty oh so pretty it's right up his alley.

He'll never be bond, he's a petty, angry actor who takes life way too d**n seriously to the point where I have to ask is this bond actually a cyborg or was he abducted by aliens and anal probed beacuse nothing else explains otherwise, you suck craig, you'll forever suck, you're only wanted as bond because of some sick female who wants you on for nothing but her fantasies, keep thinking you're bond because you ain't and never will be, you're nothing to the likes of Robert Downey Junior, Robert Deniro and any actor who actually gives a d**n about their job.

The honorable thing would be to bow out and realise you're not right for the role but who am I kidding this serious world who want nothing but uber realism, stupid grittiness and lots of blood love your spartan bond, if the world wants crap like that who am I, I'd rather live in the past because it's sure as hell a lot better then most of the crap we have around today that people just largely accept since most of them have lost their standards and taste that any old crap will do and we'll call it a masterpiece, you know who man in the mirror was really directed to cregg, you , because you sure as hell need to look in to it.

[bjmdds]

That press conference really sent it home to me what an artistic loser that ungulating mammal BOAR-bara Broccoli really is. Javier BORED-EM looked like he was falling asleep on the podium as well. BOAR-bara was sitting there, like the artless swine she is, with her smug face, barking out statements about the crispy critter SHE hired to play Bond, as Mendes kissed her unroyal rear end. FBF, let's call the franchise history now. What say yee?

[English Agent]

That press conference really sent it home to me what an artistic loser that ungulating mammal BOAR-bara Broccoli really is. Javier BORED-EM looked like he was falling asleep on the podium as well. BOAR-bara was sitting there, like the artless swine she is, with her smug face, barking out statements about the crispy critter SHE hired to play Bond, as Mendes kissed her unroyal rear end. FBF, let's call the franchise history now. What say yee?

I dont know why they have these Bond press conferences......everytime a reporter asks a question about the film......the answer is usually we cant tell you anything!

I must admit i too thought Bardem looked a little spaced out!

[FormerBondFan]

FBF, let's call the franchise history now. What say yee?

It's been history since October 14, 2005. I stopped caring about the franchise's well-being since then. It's now nothing but this:



This is why Bond 23 must CRASH and BURN (especially during the opening weekend here in the US) just like Raccoon City must be destroyed because of the T-virus.

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And shaken not stirred.....you know what I'm talking, right?

[Alessandra]

I don't understand either those who think there was good news in the press conference or those who think now things have changed and we have to give up. Uh? A lot of people here, including Mazer and I, kept saying that this WAS GOING to be released because MGM can NOT afford to not release Bond, and this is exactly what happened. The scenario hasn't changed at all, it's what it was from the start. Did some ACTUALLY believe that they wouldn't release this? Come on no! There wasn't anything in the "good news" direction, they didn't say ANYTHING different from what we already knew. The "big" car chase is the initial one that was supposed to be in India, and now is going to be in London. We all know how the one they filmed here in my backyard ended up to be: UTTER CRAP. And since they're CLEARLY taking the SAME EXACT direction as QoS (not Casino Royale at all, and mind you I thought that sucked as well) and saying the SAME EXACT things that they said when they produced the utter piece of crap that QoS was, I frankly can't see how that can be twisted and turned into "good news." Not to mention Daniel Craig looking like a sailor in the 19th century who hadn't come back home or had a shower in months. Beard included. WHAT? They had their mouths full of "Casino Royale" (which again I did NOT think was good) and "more classic Bond movie elements" when they released QoS and we know exactly how that ended.

FACT: there's Mendes who has ZERO and I mean ZERO experience directing a regular action flick and who makes dark emo movies, and he's clearly said that's the direction he's going, not to mention Bardem himself confirmed it. FACT: hiring Fiennes and Finney (wtf it's like a comic duo LOL) is DEFINITELY in the direction of a non-action non-classic Bond and ripping it off Bourne (same actor even? come on now!) FACT: the scriptwriters are also in the Bourne and emo direction (check their previous movies). These are facts, not opinions. This is what the movie is shaping up to be, not "we want to repeat CR" that is what they exactly said when they did QoS too, adding all the time "this will be a more classic Bond movie". Seriously, how does anyone even believe ONE of these sentences?

This is exactly what I was expecting. And since they said the budget is the same (EA if they say it's the same it means the figures we've had so far are inaccurate, not the opposite. That is a press conference and giving out a HIGHER budget than the actual one RUINS THEM because people can do the math at the box office... There's no reason for that whatsoever, if they had actually had a lower budget they would have said so), all the better, it'll be way easier for the movie to underperform at the box office.

[bjmdds]

BUT, if you look at BOAR-bara on that podium, she is STILL infatuated with that 'porcupinous groomed rodent' http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ld0511.jpg and said we 'want him to do more' Bond films after this Unless someone else takes over, the green vegetable will rule Eon into ruination. We knew this film would get done, but she EMPHASIZED Danielle WILL return again and that is NOT good. She has literally lost her mind having DC show up uncouthly groomed looking like he had a hangover, after having him parade in drag Lunacy has enchanted Eon's loins.

[Mazer Rackham]

What Mikey said was
"It’s in the same range as the last film, and we really haven’t had to change anything in the script to get what we want, in fact we keep on adding. But no, we’re not feeling that we’ve had to sacrifice anything."

Everything he said right there indicates there is some kind of cut, he is obfuscating it by converting from the question asked
"Will there be any budget cuts for this one?"
To
"Are you making changes to the script to compensate for the lower budget?"

In the same range can mean anything. However if they do spend $400m to make another Bond movie it will ruin MGM and Sony. $240 to $260 total for everything including P&A they will make money. They also have to consider the Box Office window for Bond 23 is very small.

For Criag returning or not Craig is not that optimistic about it given his comments about the studio being able to sack him, which they can after three. Most of it will depend on how well Skyrail does, although not always as DAD did very well and MGM wanted Brozza back for 2004, all the way up to 2004 Babs (and Mikey) was "in love" with Borzza like "a bride on her honeymoon" as Babs put it. We all know what happened.

One interesting thing I found is how MGW conveyed the idea of starting down a path with CR, I take it to mean once they get away from Craig and that path then they can do something else. There certainly is room there for it, it is odd how they constantly go back to CR, of course they want us to forget about Quark. However in 40 previous years they never kept referring to GE, LALD, DN, every time they were stating a new project with those actors. But then those were the days where Bond moved forward without looking back.

[Kristatos]

I don't understand either those who think there was good news in the press conference or those who think now things have changed and we have to give up.

The only thing I can think of as good news is Mendes's denial of the "character-based performance piece" rumour. If he'd confirmed it, there would have been a nerdgasm on MI6 and a collective from the average moviegoer.

[Alessandra]

I don't understand either those who think there was good news in the press conference or those who think now things have changed and we have to give up.

The only thing I can think of as good news is Mendes's denial of the "character-based performance piece" rumour. If he'd confirmed it, there would have been a nerdgasm on MI6 and a collective from the average moviegoer.

True. You're right about that, that is good news.

What Mikey said was
"It’s in the same range as the last film, and we really haven’t had to change anything in the script to get what we want, in fact we keep on adding. But no, we’re not feeling that we’ve had to sacrifice anything."

Everything he said right there indicates there is some kind of cut, he is obfuscating it by converting from the question asked
"Will there be any budget cuts for this one?"
To
"Are you making changes to the script to compensate for the lower budget?"

In the same range can mean anything. However if they do spend $400m to make another Bond movie it will ruin MGM and Sony. $240 to $260 total for everything including P&A they will make money. They also have to consider the Box Office window for Bond 23 is very small.

Same range means it's more or less the same amount. Certainly not $100 mln less. In fact, news articles have said production cost is $230 mln (that is excluding advertising obviously). That is why I said they'd be nuts saying the budget hasn't de creased. If it had, he would clearly have said so because that makes for a MUCH easier box office success. I highly doubt he'd say "it's in the same range" which means more or less the same amount if it was reduced by $100 mln. He'd say that right away if that was the case, to justify beforehand any possible failure. He may be stupid, but not THAT stupid?!

Meantime, we FINALLY have a detailed synopsis AND a new AWESOME poster for Henry Cavill's new movie The Cold Light of Day which will be released in April next year.

Now please look at this and tell me that he, IN A T-SHIRT and with a gun, doesn't look a LOT more like James Bond than that horrid dude in a suit with both the wrong tie and the wrong shirt and with a partially white beard at the Bond press conference. Replace the t-shirt with a shirt (even without tie) and that's James Bond.



http://superlaneandkentnews.blogspot.co ... x0.twitter

Additionally, the title for THIS movie actually sounds like a good title for a Bond movie, surely way better than "Skyfall"

[Mazer Rackham]

You are right that is what it should mean, but these people have lied before about the production cost before. CR was a 70m film before someone let the cat out of the bag revealing the £ $ switch.

I can't believe he is being completely accurate given what happened with QOS. Maybe he is doing a scale down math Sony tried to sell when they were trying to flog QOS as a under $200m film, later they settled and said it cost $230. If they are getting $230m + P&A, then f**k it. No way in hell do they get it back at the BO. The only way I can see them getting a budget that big is if the P&A is exactly what the product placement brings in, which is also insane. LTK anybody?

[Mazer Rackham]

Cold Light of Day is a good title. It is not hard unless the wonder twins think about it too hard. When they over think simple problem you'll notice the buring toast smell.

[bjmdds]

I don't understand either those who think there was good news in the press conference or those who think now things have changed and we have to give up.

The only thing I can think of as good news is Mendes's denial of the "character-based performance piece" rumour. If he'd confirmed it, there would have been a nerdgasm on MI6 and a collective from the average moviegoer.

True. You're right about that, that is good news.

What Mikey said was
"It’s in the same range as the last film, and we really haven’t had to change anything in the script to get what we want, in fact we keep on adding. But no, we’re not feeling that we’ve had to sacrifice anything."

Everything he said right there indicates there is some kind of cut, he is obfuscating it by converting from the question asked
"Will there be any budget cuts for this one?"
To
"Are you making changes to the script to compensate for the lower budget?"

In the same range can mean anything. However if they do spend $400m to make another Bond movie it will ruin MGM and Sony. $240 to $260 total for everything including P&A they will make money. They also have to consider the Box Office window for Bond 23 is very small.

Same range means it's more or less the same amount. Certainly not $100 mln less. In fact, news articles have said production cost is $230 mln (that is excluding advertising obviously). That is why I said they'd be nuts saying the budget hasn't de creased. If it had, he would clearly have said so because that makes for a MUCH easier box office success. I highly doubt he'd say "it's in the same range" which means more or less the same amount if it was reduced by $100 mln. He'd say that right away if that was the case, to justify beforehand any possible failure. He may be stupid, but not THAT stupid?!

Meantime, we FINALLY have a detailed synopsis AND a new AWESOME poster for Henry Cavill's new movie The Cold Light of Day which will be released in April next year.

Now please look at this and tell me that he, IN A T-SHIRT and with a gun, doesn't look a LOT more like James Bond than that horrid dude in a suit with both the wrong tie and the wrong shirt and with a partially white beard at the Bond press conference. Replace the t-shirt with a shirt (even without tie) and that's James Bond.



http://superlaneandkentnews.blogspot.co ... x0.twitter

Additionally, the title for THIS movie actually sounds like a good title for a Bond movie, surely way better than "Skyfall"

Ale, given what you have shown, given what we know, given the BOAR-bara rants at the press conference, how dejected will you be when she announces DC is HER guy for 3 additional films? Mazer's avatar picture defines my Bond mood right now.

[buffybond]

Old Bruce does have a Blofeld look about him in that poster and even in a t-shirt our Henry looks more Bondian than OLD Dan did in the last two films.

[buffybond]

Also way better title than Awful, sorry Skyfall.

[The Sweeney]

Ok, reading some of the expected negative comments on here, here's my take on the press conference -

1) The usual nervousness from all on display at the table - particularly Craig, who just looked uncomfortable (and needed a shave)!
2) Nothing we really learned from it, other than there is no references to Fleming and the story doesn't continue from the last one (which is a good thing).
3) some of the questions thrown at them from the audince was the usual pointless crap.

Overall I am excited that a new Bond film is being made, and I live in hope it won't be like the last one. The message came through loud and clear too from this - they think QoS was a mistake and CR was a success, so we need to have more of CR. This was the underlying message - even Mendes referred to CR but not QoS.

So maybe, just maybe the creative team are trying to put it in a different direction, and not continue down the path of the last film - which again is a good thing in my book.
I can understand the doom and gloom here, becuase finally its officially announced a new Bond is being made with Craig at the helm, and with Babs usual swooning over him, she'll want him to play Bond until he's 60.

But I really think its too early to make judgements on this film from a press conference. I would wait until shooting has been under way and we are a few months down the line before predicting what the film will be like.

And at least we all have something to talk about again - good or bad!