The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

One comment which is incorrect, as stated in previous posts is that QOS didn't open big, well $67.5 mil in the US was big, unfortunately when word of mouth was poor the takings dropped signifcantly in subsequent weeks.

$67.5 million is a respectable opening weekend gross, though not spectacular. It puts QOS at number 52 in the all-time opening weekend chart. The top spot in that chart is occupied by The Dark Knight, which took $158.4 million. So I suppose it depends how you define "big". Personally, I'd say anything over $50 million is big, but Ale obviously sets the bar higher.

[English Agent]

Well it was a big opening for a Bond film in this modern day.........for comparison DAD $47mil, CR $40mil.

EA

[The Sweeney]

One comment which is incorrect, as stated in previous posts is that QOS didn't open big, well $67.5 mil in the US was big, unfortunately when word of mouth was poor the takings dropped signifcantly in subsequent weeks.

$67.5 million is a respectable opening weekend gross, though not spectacular. It puts QOS at number 52 in the all-time opening weekend chart. The top spot in that chart is occupied by The Dark Knight, which took $158.4 million. So I suppose it depends how you define "big". Personally, I'd say anything over $50 million is big, but Ale obviously sets the bar higher.

She sets the bar higher only where Craig is concerned.....

[Captain Nash]

One comment which is incorrect, as stated in previous posts is that QOS didn't open big, well $67.5 mil in the US was big, unfortunately when word of mouth was poor the takings dropped signifcantly in subsequent weeks.

$67.5 million is a respectable opening weekend gross, though not spectacular. It puts QOS at number 52 in the all-time opening weekend chart. The top spot in that chart is occupied by The Dark Knight, which took $158.4 million. So I suppose it depends how you define "big". Personally, I'd say anything over $50 million is big, but Ale obviously sets the bar higher.

She sets the bar higher only where Craig is concerned.....

It's a common trait you'll find here from time to time.
Rules change.
Goals widen.
The madness stays the same.

[Mazer Rackham]

DAD was 8.1m (est tickets opening weekend)/ 27.6 (est tickets total)
CR 6.2m/ 25m
Quark 9.4m /23m

Quark was only a slight improvement over the DAD opening and had a glut of free tickets out in the wild for it. In today's world DAD is a 629m movie, in 2008 number around 589m, and that is not adjusting for the market growth and new markets like China who add another 10 to 20m to the take. Too much slight of hand is possible using the $ sign, exactly why it is preferred over actual profit and tickets sold.

Quark had a good first weekend but it was perversely front loaded. In the way a summer film usually is, which was very odd and something they tried to avoid since 1989. But that's for another thread...

Great to see you around EA

[Mazer Rackham]

It's a common trait you'll find here from time to time.
Rules change.
Goals widen.
The madness stays the same.

You'd know all about madness Benny Still upset the Abos have rights?

[Captain Nash]

It's a common trait you'll find here from time to time.
Rules change.
Goals widen.
The madness stays the same.

You'd know all about madness Benny Still upset the Abos have rights?

That's a rather bizarre and racist comment Mazer.
Not another Mi6er I've locked horns with?
Still anonymity's nice I suppose. When you want to hide.

[Mazer Rackham]

It's a common trait you'll find here from time to time.
Rules change.
Goals widen.
The madness stays the same.

You'd know all about madness Benny Still upset the Abos have rights?

That's a rather bizarre and racist comment Mazer.
Not another Mi6er I've locked horns with?
Still anonymity's nice I suppose. When you want to hide.

Benny you're the one who made racist, bigoted, and sexist comments here in the past mate. Just tweaking Bruces nose a little. Can't take the heat don't add gasoline to the fire.
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[Blowfeld]

RUMOR: Clive Owen To Take Over As James Bond After Next Movie?

Hit the jump for some bizarre claims about the future of the James Bond franchise, including the news that Clive Owen will be taking over as the British spy after Daniel Craig stars in the 23rd installment...
A little odd this one. Fiore Mastracci of The Examiner has come up with a fair few wild claims about the future of the James Bond franchise, the highlights of which you can read below. I thought I'd share it with you as it makes for something of an interesting read, but as this is the same site that claimed John Cena and The Rock are competing for a role in Superman, I wouldnt take it too seriously.

The first battle staged over BOND 23 had to do with its star, Daniel Craig. There was a concerted effort to oust Craig as Bond and insert Clive Owen. Owen has coveted the role for some time and was on the original short list of possible Bonds before Craig was selected.

After the success of CASINO ROYALE, MGM signed Craig to a two picture contract extension. To dump Craig now would have cost the financially strapped MGM an unacceptable amount in a buyout. BOND 23 keeps Craig as Bond, the majority of the public unaware of the PR snafus and the cost reasonable. Pundits within MGM are alluding to this being Craig’s swan song however, and Owen as the front runner for his replacement in BOND 24.

Due to the delay caused by keeping Craig for another film, Owen is said to be asking for a three picture commitment for Bond, something MGM may not want to do.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=28042

[Kristatos]

RUMOR: Clive Owen To Take Over As James Bond After Next Movie?

Yes, and the villain is going to be played by Sean Connery. I'm all for recycling, but....

[Mazer Rackham]

Owen?! Give me a break!

[Alessandra]

One comment which is incorrect, as stated in previous posts is that QOS didn't open big, well $67.5 mil in the US was big, unfortunately when word of mouth was poor the takings dropped signifcantly in subsequent weeks.

$67.5 million is a respectable opening weekend gross, though not spectacular. It puts QOS at number 52 in the all-time opening weekend chart. The top spot in that chart is occupied by The Dark Knight, which took $158.4 million. So I suppose it depends how you define "big". Personally, I'd say anything over $50 million is big, but Ale obviously sets the bar higher.

She sets the bar higher only where Craig is concerned.....

It's a common trait you'll find here from time to time.
Rules change.
Goals widen.
The madness stays the same.

I don't set the bar higher or lower when this or that is concerned. 57 position in all-time openings doesn't make it big as far as I'm concerned. You'd have to be at least in the top 20 to call yourself big. That's how I see it, Craig or not Craig. And, DAD opening gross can only be compared when adjusted for inflation. The average cost of one ticket was 5.81 dollars when DAD was released and it was instead 7.18 dollars when QoS was released. Which is a difference of about 23.58 percent. So, adjusting the gross for inflation, DAD opened at around $58 million. Bearing in mind that both DAD and CR cost WAY less than QoS and that they kept on performing well after the opening, both of them made the studio book a profit, unlike QoS. Long story short, opening means precious nothing unless you keep up with it after. Which QoS didn't. (just for clarity, CR opened at $40.8 mln, which adjusted for inflation brings it to $44.76 mln)

DAD and CR had smaller opening grosses than QoS but performed well after opening weekend, which allowed the studio to book a profit right from box office on. QoS made the studio book a loss, not simply for the box office but for the lousy DVD sales. And, DAD opened in 3,314 theathers while instead QoS opened in 3,451 theaters. CR similarly opened in 3,434 theaters. There's a significant difference in the number of theaters between DAD and QoS/CR, so those 58 millions adjusted for inflation plus the 137 fewer theaters for the opening of DAD make the figures even closer (at an average of 2,725 spectators per theater per weekend, we have another 2.68 million to add to the DAD total, bringing it to 60.68 mln.) Just in terms of box office gross, DAD earned over 3 times (the magic number to make a profit right from the box office) its production cost (advertising costs excluded), while QoS earned 2.9 times its production cost (advertising costs excluded), so below the profit line (takes at least 3 times the costs in grosses to break even). And that is considering the QoS budget at $200 mln, we all know it was later declared that it was $230 mln at least. (considering that budget, the proportion goes down to 2.55 percent.)

Owen?! Give me a break!

Seconded. Come on now! Owen? Please. He's not even interested. And he's WAY too old to take over now.

[katied]

Thirded. Dang..the Clive Owen rumor has been brought back from the dead as many times as "they're bringing Spectre/Blofed back" has!

[Omega]

Just a general computer question, so for you MAC users what do you find is the biggest advantage over a Windows system, and is there anything on Windows you wish you had on MACS ? Just curious.

EA

Mac os X is great. I love it. However Windows 7 has come a very long way. I've run Linux, Windows in all its releases and Mac OS X. The mac takes some getting use to and hunting for programs to make it completely compatible. NTFS discs for instance require a special program to write to them, Snow Leopard adds a work around I think. Mac in a many is a glorified Linux system but better because there is more official support and easier install programs where Linux is a major PITA to install most programs on or adjust. Bright side is Linux and Macs are 98% safe from all virus and hacking attempts. Unless someone really wants to attack them normally they are safe.


Windows 7 is one of the better OS from MS. Quick setup easy to connect to a network, I have to work at getting the Mac to been seen on a network, sharing files can be a pain. I think most users will find Windows easier to use and most of programs are ready for Windows day one and some times Mac editions are delayed.

If I had the cash for the Mac Book Pro I want I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. Apple to apples a 2 thousand dollar Mac Vs a 2 thousand dollar Windows Lap top its no contest the WIndows PC will be loaded out with the best of everything, but the mac will also has top end hardware and is built to last. It can also run windows 7 as a duel boot, running Windows perfectly giving the best of both worlds. I am a fan of the Mac but Windows will always be more versatile with more options hardware (printers, scanners, DVRs, blu-ray) and software (video games, blu-ray movie players) and because of it also more vulnerable to attack requiring clunky software to protect.

[Alessandra]

DAD was 8.1m (est tickets opening weekend)/ 27.6 (est tickets total)
CR 6.2m/ 25m
Quark 9.4m /23m

Quark was only a slight improvement over the DAD opening and had a glut of free tickets out in the wild for it. In today's world DAD is a 629m movie, in 2008 number around 589m, and that is not adjusting for the market growth and new markets like China who add another 10 to 20m to the take. Too much slight of hand is possible using the $ sign, exactly why it is preferred over actual profit and tickets sold.

Quark had a good first weekend but it was perversely front loaded. In the way a summer film usually is, which was very odd and something they tried to avoid since 1989. But that's for another thread...

Great to see you around EA

Oh, thank you for this Q. I was posting myself and I hadn't seen it. Yes, the number of tickets sold is also tricky to adjust based on newer demographics and markets , and there's the fact the number of theaters they had QoS open in was significantly higher than that of DAD as well. And even so, the estimated total number of tickets remains higher for DAD. Which is kind of... telling in terms of where the public anyway goes when Bond movies are concerned. And it isn't in the Bourne-like direction they took.

[Kristatos]

I don't set the bar higher or lower when this or that is concerned. 57 position in all-time openings doesn't make it big as far as I'm concerned. You'd have to be at least in the top 20 to call yourself big. That's how I see it, Craig or not Craig.

Well, you set the bar higher than I do. I'd say anywhere in the all-time top 100 is a respectable haul.

[English Agent]

I don't set the bar higher or lower when this or that is concerned. 57 position in all-time openings doesn't make it big as far as I'm concerned. You'd have to be at least in the top 20 to call yourself big. That's how I see it, Craig or not Craig.

Well, you set the bar higher than I do. I'd say anywhere in the all-time top 100 is a respectable haul.

In reply to the above, the statement i was making was that the opening for QOS was big for a Bond film in the current times in the US.
It was just a shame that QOS was a poor film, if not then the grosses in the North American market could of been quite substancial.

I could spend bleedin hours going into all the details of BO revenue vs budgets vs admissions, as i have done in the past, but most of us know the general picture, and i have just come back from evening school learning Italian, had a few beers (hiccup) and i don't want to fall asleep at the computer whilst typing in a mind numbing list of stastistics.

Ciao

EA zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Alessandra]

I don't set the bar higher or lower when this or that is concerned. 57 position in all-time openings doesn't make it big as far as I'm concerned. You'd have to be at least in the top 20 to call yourself big. That's how I see it, Craig or not Craig.

Well, you set the bar higher than I do. I'd say anywhere in the all-time top 100 is a respectable haul.

In reply to the above, the statement i was making was that the opening for QOS was big for a Bond film in the current times in the US.
It was just a shame that QOS was a poor film, if not then the grosses in the North American market could of been quite substancial.

I could spend bleedin hours going into all the details of BO revenue vs budgets vs admissions, as i have done in the past, but most of us know the general picture, and i have just come back from evening school learning Italian, had a few beers (hiccup) and i don't want to fall asleep at the computer whilst typing in a mind numbing list of stastistics.

Ciao

EA zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Beh per quanto riguarda l'italiano ti posso sicuramente aiutare! If you ever need to practice, just let me know,I'll throw in the occasional Italian sentence for you

I did understand what you meant, the above was because there were comments saying I set the bar higher only when Craig is concerned. Which is just not the case. I'm always a demanding bitch

[Captain Nash]

That's a rather bizarre and racist comment Mazer.
Not another Mi6er I've locked horns with?
Still anonymity's nice I suppose. When you want to hide.

Can't take the heat don't add gasoline to the fire.

Pot. Kettle . Black.
Calm down kiddo, you'll hurt yourself.
Now be a good lad and go and dig up some stats to send us to slee...I mean amaze us with.

[Mazer Rackham]

Nice, everyone is worried about offending the creep who makes ethnic slurs. Stay classy Benny.