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'Bond producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson scoured the globe for a possible replacement, taking meetings with a number of established and up-and-coming stars, from The Night Manager’s dashing Brit Tom Hiddleston to Poldark’s Aidan Turner'..........on the same day Elvis that died, EON buried the franchise for good and wrote it's obituary:!: It's done, it's over, good riddance :!:
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Craig will make the next one. Then we will have about four years of speculation over whether he will make another one. Then he will announce he is. Then the process will be repeated.......for ever.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Craig will make the next one. Then we will have about four years of speculation over whether he will make another one. Then he will announce he is. Then the process will be repeated.......for ever.
Nothing last forever. I think if things don't break down by then (and we've seen actors leave roles before after being confirmed) That most likely this is the last one for him.
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Disappointing news, but it might be for the best in the long term, given that Purvis and Wade are returning. Imagine if Aidan Turner was announced as Bond and then got saddled with a script that was obviously written for Daniel Craig, and tied him to the same dour approach to Bond.
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I guess there really is no news like bad news. His fifth,one less than Connery,two less than Moore,one more than Brosnan. OH MY f**king GOD.
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Disappointing, not just to us a lot of people wanted a new bond.
But I do think he is past his best by date over ten years with the same guy is too long now, especially with how dated his reboot is.



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Broccoli has foolishly miscalculated this move. The 'general' public is no longer fascinated with Cr-egg as Bond, in fact, I would now guess that young ladies find it 'creepy' that he is with Seydoux as a love interest, given his horrendous and aged looks. This film will UNDERPERFORM Spectre, even with elevated ticket prices, with a retread plot, and it won't even top Wonder Woman's current total most likely worldwide. The idiot Colbert has his robotic morons clap at anything he says on his show so that audience reaction is not to be deemed a representative sample of the public. IF the idiots at EON bring him back in 2022 as well, and I think SHE might, it will be 20 years since we had a proper Bond :!: In any case, as I suggested many times here, this forum will top 1 million views before this asinine boll weevil vacates the roll :!: Our Captain Flandry is correct. Broccoli has her own Bond "Groundhog Day" with casting Bond. It will never change :!: This time, the box office may illuminate her once and for all :!: FBF, MI is our only outlet now for real spy drama that can be enjoyed. As for Bond 25, I have ZERO interest in anything related to it....................“I 'think' this is it. I just want to go out on a high note. I can’t wait.”-------------I cannot wait for this pile of rubbish to underperform and send him out as he came in, with a life preserver around his chest on his way back down the Thames river in the opposite direction :!:
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Well I think he realizes specter is seen as crappy film that in many ways ruins the previous movies. I honestly wouldn't be surprised for Craig's bond death scene, since he is such a serious artist and all


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Fans of mediocrity rejoice! Craig returns and with him the dour, dull, depressing brand of "adventure" foisted upon us a decade ago, but with the added benefit of Craig simply going through the motions for a fat payday, yaaaaaaaawn! Get ready for Bond 25 where spoiler alert we begin with Madeline Swann's murder during the PTS a schmaltzy title sequence devoid of any female forms and a deep emotional journey of vengeance against Bro-feld for killing the only woman he ever loved, besides the other one and the one before her, because this time it's personal, no really, this time for realsies it's personal like really! As Kris said the silver lining is the new Bond won't be saddled with a "Craig script" written by the hacks, i mean word smiths Pervis and Wade.
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I don't know if this is surprising, disappointing is the highest level of emotion I can muster. This would be the last film option in Craig's contract although MGW says there is not contract. I do believe Babs's Bond as embodied by Craig has become passe more so than critics like to say about Roger Moore & Pierce Brosnan. Honestly I think this is a financial decision on all sides, Craig, the Broccoli's, and the studio's. They all want a payday and figure this is the quickest way to get one.
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Veronica wrote:I guess there really is no news like bad news. His fifth,one less than Connery,two less than Moore,one more than Brosnan. OH MY f**king GOD.
There were some people stupidly celebrating that Craig has beat Moore's record as the longest serving Bond actor. Any actor can set a new record by waiting four years in between films in order for EON to get their act together. It isn't something to praise, in my opinion. What matters to me is that Moore made seven great Bond adventures in less time than Craig has spent in his Bond soap opera with a story that could have easily been told in a few films at most.
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Goldeneye wrote:I do believe Babs's Bond as embodied by Craig has become passe more so than critics like to say about Roger Moore & Pierce Brosnan.
Hard to tell. The majority of comments I've read on the Internet (apart from here, of course) seem to be positive, but like I always say, if Internet hype translated to box office dollars, Snakes on a Plane would have been the highest-grossing movie of all time.
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Veronica wrote:I guess there really is no news like bad news. His fifth,one less than Connery,two less than Moore,one more than Brosnan. OH MY f**king GOD.
There were some people stupidly celebrating that Craig has beat Moore's record as the longest serving Bond actor. Any actor can set a new record by waiting four years in between films in order for EON to get their act together. It isn't something to praise, in my opinion. What matters to me is that Moore made seven great Bond adventures in less time than Craig has spent in his Bond soap opera with a story that could have easily been told in a few films at most.
Moore served the franchise in a way that in 12 years he made 7 films while Craig made only 4(if we count that quasi-movie named QOS) in the same amount of time. Moore was also a great ambassador for the franchise while Craig is just completely miserable. How could anyone want him back all things considered is beyond me.
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Goldeneye wrote:I do believe Babs's Bond as embodied by Craig has become passe more so than critics like to say about Roger Moore & Pierce Brosnan.
Hard to tell. The majority of comments I've read on the Internet (apart from here, of course) seem to be positive, but like I always say, if Internet hype translated to box office dollars, Snakes on a Plane would have been the highest-grossing movie of all time.
Most of the forums are echo chambers, fanboys and "Bond experts" who don't want to fall out of EON's good graces chatting up how brilliant Babz is to show what good little soldiers they are. Remember Brosnan was "BEST BOND EVA!" until he wasn't, had the news been an announcement of a new actor, the forums would be a flutter over how it was the "right move at the right time".
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Veronica wrote:
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Veronica wrote:I guess there really is no news like bad news. His fifth,one less than Connery,two less than Moore,one more than Brosnan. OH MY f**king GOD.
There were some people stupidly celebrating that Craig has beat Moore's record as the longest serving Bond actor. Any actor can set a new record by waiting four years in between films in order for EON to get their act together. It isn't something to praise, in my opinion. What matters to me is that Moore made seven great Bond adventures in less time than Craig has spent in his Bond soap opera with a story that could have easily been told in a few films at most.
Moore served the franchise in a way that in 12 years he made 7 films while Craig made only 4(if we count that quasi-movie named QOS) in the same amount of time. Moore was also a great ambassador for the franchise while Craig is just completely miserable. How could anyone want him back all things considered is beyond me.

To me time in role means nothing, remember Dalton was Bond for 8 years yet only made 2 films, of course it was the legal wrangling that hampered him but you get the point.
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bjmdds wrote:Broccoli has foolishly miscalculated this move. The 'general' public is no longer fascinated with Cr-egg as Bond
Yeah, I get that sentiment from a lot of people. In discussions about movies and this summer's dead box office, the subject usually goes into future films, and I hear people typically say that the Bond franchise needs a new actor.

This next one is already starting to remind of AVTAK. Like Moore, Craig is over-staying in the role, the rumored plot is a tired retread, and you've got the same gang cranking out the screenplay. You get the gist of what I'm trying to say. Right now, the series is stale. I don't know, maybe Eon's internal market research showed that the new generation of movie-goers would fawn over a 50-year-old hero who looks like a broken-down mule.
bjmdds wrote: This film will UNDERPERFORM Spectre, even with elevated ticket prices, with a retread plot, and it won't even top Wonder Woman's current total most likely worldwide.
On that note, I think Ms. Barbiturate Broccoli will be inspired by Wonder Woman. That's how she'll conquer the box office: stuff old man Danny Boy in the Wonder Woman costume. Hey, it's the final transformation she's been longing for, the ultimate emasculated 007.
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Atticus wrote: stuff old man Danny Boy in the Wonder Woman costume.

Wouldn't be the first time! just see my signature below :wink:
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Craig will make the next one. Then we will have about four years of speculation over whether he will make another one. Then he will announce he is. Then the process will be repeated.......for ever.
Nothing last forever. I think if things don't break down by then (and we've seen actors leave roles before after being confirmed) That most likely this is the last one for him.
Good point. Actors do bail from films. The strange thing is, Ms. Barbiturate Broccoli hasn't really come out to reinforce Craig's confirmation (unless I missed a formal announcement from Eon). We'll see how things progress from here on.
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Goldeneye wrote:I do believe Babs's Bond as embodied by Craig has become passe more so than critics like to say about Roger Moore & Pierce Brosnan.
Hard to tell. The majority of comments I've read on the Internet (apart from here, of course) seem to be positive, but like I always say, if Internet hype translated to box office dollars, Snakes on a Plane would have been the highest-grossing movie of all time.
You could be right. I'm not expecting a public outcry my feel in the last two years is whatever made the Craig era edgy to audiences has faded about two movies ago. Brosnan never got to this stage, never got a tenth anniversary as Bond either although technically he was still on duty in 2005 until Craig came ashore. Roger Moore probably For Your Eyes Only was where he could have exited gracefully, although Octopussy wouldn't have been bad exit either. View to a Kill cemented in the people mind the idea of he's too old for Bond. Again it was the sheer number of movies made in 12 years that helps make Moore so remarkable.

To me 10 years is the window for the actor as Bond beyond that people start looking back feeling disconnected from the feeling in the first move that caused them liking the actor in that role, reviewing their Bond career in video tape is easier to appreciate, as we live the days Casino Royale seems so unimportant now, SPECTRE will be the same, a four year old movie with a plot that will not be a relevant as other movies hitting the big screen, movies which are keeping up the story telling pace.

But they are going to dump half a billion making and promoting it, the name and image of Bond draws audiences in, until it doesn't.
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